Flying A**hole
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Flying A**hole
Listen to this, absolutely inappropriate, he must have definitely had his ticket pulled... it's unreal
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://onemileatatime.com/atc-audio-negligent-pilot/&ved=2ahUKEwiSneDzkc3qAhUMgnIEHcuTCvYQo7QBMAB6BAgAEAE&usg=AO vVaw16pVqDjgRDh5-FUztzNP8T
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://onemileatatime.com/atc-audio-negligent-pilot/&ved=2ahUKEwiSneDzkc3qAhUMgnIEHcuTCvYQo7QBMAB6BAgAEAE&usg=AO vVaw16pVqDjgRDh5-FUztzNP8T
Last edited by Pugilistic Animus; 14th July 2020 at 18:46.
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The link worked for me.
Arrogant twit who I hope got the comeuppance he deserved. However, unless conflicting traffic prevented it he should have been given an appropriate clearance and his behaviour dealt with after landing. He would be prosecuted in the UK of course..
Arrogant twit who I hope got the comeuppance he deserved. However, unless conflicting traffic prevented it he should have been given an appropriate clearance and his behaviour dealt with after landing. He would be prosecuted in the UK of course..
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From: Commuting not home
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The link worked for me.
Arrogant twit who I hope got the comeuppance he deserved. However, unless conflicting traffic prevented it he should have been given an appropriate clearance and his behaviour dealt with after landing. He would be prosecuted in the UK of course..
Arrogant twit who I hope got the comeuppance he deserved. However, unless conflicting traffic prevented it he should have been given an appropriate clearance and his behaviour dealt with after landing. He would be prosecuted in the UK of course..
Edited to add: Some Class Bravo's have uncontrolled flyways poking through them ..All you need is a transponder...for US class B it's best to read the Terminal Area Chart
Last edited by Pugilistic Animus; 14th July 2020 at 22:27.
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From: Ansião (PT)
@FlightDetent: thank you, that works. I could of course have found it for myself, but I thought it for the topic starter to post a working clickable link, which would scarcely be more difficult.
General comment: yes sure this is NOT the way to do it, neither the flying nor the communications. and I too hope this pilot may be penalised one way or another. But isn't his behaviour and (lack of) style typical of the degeneration of citizenship and good manners, in the US particularly?
General comment: yes sure this is NOT the way to do it, neither the flying nor the communications. and I too hope this pilot may be penalised one way or another. But isn't his behaviour and (lack of) style typical of the degeneration of citizenship and good manners, in the US particularly?
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Yes I know man, I mean C'mon, keep it together
To me that's definitely a 91:13 (Careless and Reckless operation) and they have revoked licenses for less than that. Not the ATCO the "pilot"
To me that's definitely a 91:13 (Careless and Reckless operation) and they have revoked licenses for less than that. Not the ATCO the "pilot"
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The one in post #4 works. This is one exceptionally stupid excuse for a pilot sat behind that yoke. I looked up the tail number and it appears to be registered to 'WIFE APPROVED LLC'. He probably has a quite specific sense of humour...
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@FlightDetent: thank you, that works. I could of course have found it for myself, but I thought it for the topic starter to post a working clickable link, which would scarcely be more difficult.
General comment: yes sure this is NOT the way to do it, neither the flying nor the communications. and I too hope this pilot may be penalised one way or another. But isn't his behaviour and (lack of) style typical of the degeneration of citizenship and good manners, in the US particularly?
General comment: yes sure this is NOT the way to do it, neither the flying nor the communications. and I too hope this pilot may be penalised one way or another. But isn't his behaviour and (lack of) style typical of the degeneration of citizenship and good manners, in the US particularly?
I have never heard such dangerous, disrespectful RT. Ground people tend to misbehave much more but in general people are so F'ing cute!
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Registered to a ‘Wife Approved LLC’. That and the whiny voice tells me that this bloke is a little b*tch.
He’s got form. Sounds like an absolute c*ckhead.
Helpful guide to ATC Communications. Presented by N731NR.
He’s got form. Sounds like an absolute c*ckhead.
Helpful guide to ATC Communications. Presented by N731NR.
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From: Aus
I think that guy needs to trade in his current Centurion for this model, to protect him from all the incoming, which he more than richly deserves, just ensure the ammunition boxes are empty. Wonder if he reads Pprune? Probably not, as I guess he knows it all. "Wife approved" may indicate a hen pecked rooster whose only outlet is to abuse ATC.
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From: Way north
What do you expect to hear from ATC if you're flying VFR and is about to enter class D or C airspace?
I've heard a lot of different opinions on the matter:
The fun thing is, this entire conversation between ATC and N731NR reminded me of that... (he is IFR though, so there's nothing to raffle about)
I've heard a lot of different opinions on the matter:
- We make initial call, get runway in use and QNH, then we can enter without further.
- We make initial call, get runway in use and QNH and "enter the TMA or CTR" but without using the word "cleared", then we can enter.
- We make initial call, get runway in use and QNH and "cleared to enter/destination....." as is required in a standard clearance, then we can enter.
The fun thing is, this entire conversation between ATC and N731NR reminded me of that... (he is IFR though, so there's nothing to raffle about)
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From: Surrey, UK ;
As one who occasionally flies in he US, I'm constantly bemused at the rather lax way of doing things. For example take off from a small field, fly towards a big airport, make a call and get a squawk (without asking for anything in particular) then make a beeline for his overhead at 2000 AGL.
I suggest that it might be a plan to state intentions and make a request but my FAA instructor simply says .. do whatever you like, he'll tell you if he isn't happy.
Yeah .. I can imagine doing that at Gatwick.
I suggest that it might be a plan to state intentions and make a request but my FAA instructor simply says .. do whatever you like, he'll tell you if he isn't happy.
Yeah .. I can imagine doing that at Gatwick.
