SEP revalidation advice

[tume]

Originally Posted by PaulTobiasStanding

That's interesting though that I should be able to revalidate here, I thought I read something about instructors having to be pre-aproved by the CAA ? Could be old info though. Are you aware if I need to check with the CAA before any proficiency flight or anything ?

That UK briefing used to be a pain in the arse (seminar or something). If I'm not mistaken now it is just a matter of studying the United Kingdom section of the Examiner Differences document (link on the bottom of the page):
https://www.easa.europa.eu/easa-and-...elated-content

I was wrong when I told you the examiner can't sign your revalidation in the Ratings -page: he/she can actually according to that document in some instance ("Licence endorsement permitted when specifically authorised by the UK CAA."). Not sure what that would require since it wasn't possible in my case (rating initial issue).

You do have to send a notification about the LPC prior the flight along with examiner details etc. after which you should receive an automatic confirmation that you can go ahead with it. All this guidance is in IN-2016/003:

IN-2016/003: Procedures for Examiners Holding Part-FCL Certificates Issued by Countries Other than the UK

Then when you are done, along with the rating revalidation forms, you need to submit a copy of that email confimation (test notification), examiner’s licence, medical and examiner authorisation certificate.

[MrAverage]

.........and a Course Completion Certificate.

[tume]

Originally Posted by MrAverage

.........and a Course Completion Certificate.

I guess, but if he was to only do the Proficiency Check it would not be required (since there is no course). However, I agree it might be prudent to do some refresher training in this case.

[MrAverage]

It's still required, even if no training was carried out, the form (SRG 1107) allows for that case.............

[astir 8]

Drive up to Oripaa - it's only about 55 km from Turku and try some gliding. It won't solve your revalidation problem but it's a lot more fun than a home sim!

Plus there are some very nice people there.

[BillieBob]

Since we are talking about a revalidation, there is no requirement for refresher training (although, given the OP's recent experience, it might be wise) or for a course completion certificate. It is also permissible for the examiner to complete any training prior to the check.

[PaulTobiasStanding]

Thanks all for input on this, I feel like I still don't fully understand the process but it seems like even if I let it lapse it won't be so much of a big deal to do some refresher flights followed by a proficiency check (if maybe a bit of messing around with CAA procedures).

Whether or not I need a course completion certificate seems to be a 'point of dicussion'.

astir 8 - I had checked out oripää, I thought actually they had powered aircraft there though unfortunately for me not PA28's.

I can't understand why there's no flying club at Turku's main airport, it's not like the city's huge but you would have thought there would be enough demand. If I had several hundred thousand euros I'd try and start it myself.

Paul

[MrAverage]

BillieBob


I stand by my statement in #24. A course completion certificate is definitely required, I know of at least three submissions that were rejected because the form was missing. All three were "no training required".


A revalidation LPC does not require one but a renewal LPC always does, whether training took place or not.

[S-Works]

Billiebob already stated a revalidation........ ��

[PaulTobiasStanding]

So if I understand correct..

- If the rating has lapsed it's a renewal and therefore a course completion certificate is required.

- If the rating hasn't yet expired it's a re-validation and a course completion certificate is not required.

The CAA should have licencing flow charts (that started as a joke in my head but actually makes sense).

[MrAverage]

That's it Paul!


bose-x:


Since the OP has more or less stated he's going to let it lapse I wanted him to have full understanding.

[MrAverage]

......as you and I know, too many candidates do not understand the difference between reval and renew.

[PaulTobiasStanding]

Originally Posted by MrAverage

......as you and I know, too many candidates do not understand the difference between reval and renew.

Luckily I now do !