Tracey Curtis-Taylor (Merged threads)
TC-T (et al ) will now go into part (d). In which the sympathy vote will be called for. Poor TC-T fighting to show what women are capable of,blocked by male misogynistic dinosaurs etc,etc,
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This is encouraging news....excellent. More details re the crash soon hopefully but I fear that the lady may have added to her problems. I would love to be a fly on the wall when TCT next meets her lawyer....
Lawyer: Now Tracey, is there anything you have forgotten to tell me?
TCT: Well, just a small bit of detail, but it's not important.
Lawyer: Is it about being alone in that bi-plane?
TCT: Well, kind of.
Lawyer: Did you lie about it?
TCT: No. Absolutely not! I was alone in it, all the time.
Lawyer: Well what is it then?
TCT: That trouble maker Jay Sata discovered something.
Lawyer: Common girl, spit it out, tell me what he discovered.
TCT: I'm embarrassed.
Lawyer: For God's sake woman, pull yourself together and tell me.
TCT: Sorry to tell you this at this late stage but he wrote on pprune that bi-plane doesn't have a hyphen in it, and I'm ashamed that I'll look a bit silly now.
Lawyer: That's a given darling....it's already happened.
Lawyer: Now Tracey, is there anything you have forgotten to tell me?
TCT: Well, just a small bit of detail, but it's not important.
Lawyer: Is it about being alone in that bi-plane?
TCT: Well, kind of.
Lawyer: Did you lie about it?
TCT: No. Absolutely not! I was alone in it, all the time.
Lawyer: Well what is it then?
TCT: That trouble maker Jay Sata discovered something.
Lawyer: Common girl, spit it out, tell me what he discovered.
TCT: I'm embarrassed.
Lawyer: For God's sake woman, pull yourself together and tell me.
TCT: Sorry to tell you this at this late stage but he wrote on pprune that bi-plane doesn't have a hyphen in it, and I'm ashamed that I'll look a bit silly now.
Lawyer: That's a given darling....it's already happened.
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Winslow, Arizona.
As reported earlier in this thread, TCT had initially inferred that the mishap there was as a result of having been provided with "contaminated fuel".
This was not mentioned again, nor did that possibility get a mention in the NTSB report.
It is therefore interesting to note that, on his website, Ewald most recently tells us that the cause of the crash was
"contaminated fuel and other reason".
Pray tell, dear Ewald, just what might that "other reason" have been?
I also hear that the Winslow FBO, Wiseman Aviation, are not terribly happy with your implication, either.
I'd suggest that you issue a clarification quick smart.
And .. just as a BTW, I do hope that none of the endangered and protected Gila Monsters were harmed during your unscheduled alighting.
p.s. Thinking about it, they do have a very acute sense of smell and, having sensed that the TCT Circus was in town, would have sought shelter at an early stage.
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As reported earlier in this thread, TCT had initially inferred that the mishap there was as a result of having been provided with "contaminated fuel".
This was not mentioned again, nor did that possibility get a mention in the NTSB report.
It is therefore interesting to note that, on his website, Ewald most recently tells us that the cause of the crash was
"contaminated fuel and other reason".
Pray tell, dear Ewald, just what might that "other reason" have been?
I also hear that the Winslow FBO, Wiseman Aviation, are not terribly happy with your implication, either.
I'd suggest that you issue a clarification quick smart.
And .. just as a BTW, I do hope that none of the endangered and protected Gila Monsters were harmed during your unscheduled alighting.
p.s. Thinking about it, they do have a very acute sense of smell and, having sensed that the TCT Circus was in town, would have sought shelter at an early stage.
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Funny you should mention that....
Changing the subject what is fast becoming obvious here is that nobody seems to be controlling the flow of statements being made by the TCT team. The left hand is contradicting the right hand at times, and nobody seems to have a handle on what was stated previously. What they really need is to leave one person to deal with this stuff alone, all by themselves...or solo if you prefer.
Changing the subject what is fast becoming obvious here is that nobody seems to be controlling the flow of statements being made by the TCT team. The left hand is contradicting the right hand at times, and nobody seems to have a handle on what was stated previously. What they really need is to leave one person to deal with this stuff alone, all by themselves...or solo if you prefer.
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I think that PPRUNE should be congratulated for not being intimidated by threats, indirect or as polite as they may be, from TCT's lawyers.
I'm sure the mods are looking very carefully at all posts, and it's in the best interests of us all to be careful what and how we present our side of a story that must be told.
I'm sure the mods are looking very carefully at all posts, and it's in the best interests of us all to be careful what and how we present our side of a story that must be told.
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She gets snotty and legalistic over perfectly credible allegations of chicanery yet some FBO apparently sold her contaminated fuel leading to a near double fatal crash and Cat4 damage - and there's no word of the legal sh!tstorm you'd expect to follow that even following a $six figure loss attributed to it.
I simply do not believe that is possible.
I simply do not believe that is possible.
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I cannot control what other people say about what I do, whether it be in the media or otherwise.
TCT talks of the press 'misinterpreting' the flights as solo - in that case, I assume she'll be able to provide a full record of her contact with the relevant publications asking that the articles are corrected? As an aside, I noted articles regarding the recent Hardwick Mustang crash were quickly (and properly) adjusted to avoid untruths being spread - clearly getting corrections implemented is not a difficult task.
There are hundreds of questions that have been raised in this thread which it would be far better to see directly answered rather than talk of 'outreach' to attempt to explain the problem away.
A few key ones that spring to mind for me:
- If the intent was to readily present the expedition as a team affair all along, why did Ewald seem so camera-shy in Sydney?
- Why has confirmation about the support team only been formally recognised by TCT in statements following negative pressure from various corners of the aviation community?
- What percentage of the flights over the three trips were flown with Ewald onboard?
- If he wasn't helping with the flying in any way whatsoever, why is there such a need for an engineer to be onboard the Stearman as there are surely very few faults he would be able to fix in mid-air?
- What were you originally going to say on the R4 broadcast when you talked of "two..." and then changed to "the pilot"?
How can her statement:
be taken seriously with such widely available proof that she has done EXACTLY that - misled everyone who'll listen that she was indeed alone for those 7000 mies of flying, IN HER OWN WORDS, in the photo shown a few post earlier of her speaking in front of a backdrop slide stating:
Yet she has the audacity of trying to claim instead that
Totally delusional! Her stated "or otherwise" clearly covers the actual source of these "misrepresented" claims which have "mislead people into believing that I undertook my flights alone" which are in fact from her very own presentations!
Of course she herself has claimed she was alone. She has earned considerable sums of money for peddling the myth, and it is plain to see as it is now plastered all over the internet.
Has T C-T not considered the wisdom - or otherwise - of paying for legal help to defend herself against the consequences of her own claims in the face of such freely available proof that she is not telling the whole truth?
Does she really continue to believe that everyone else is really rather stupid? Quite extraordinary!
If the next phase of this irritatingly addictive, rather pathetic show is threatened "legal action against the individuals who were the sources for these articles as I consider them to be part of a course of conduct designed to cause damage and distress", we must presume she will be suing herself for being the source of the myth that she flew for "7000 miles in 36 legs over 6 weeks, alone in an open cock-pit plane", which is obviously now causing her such "damage and distress" which she freely admits.
Wow - this should be good!
... recent articles about my flights have suggested or implied that I have misrepresented or have sought to mislead people into believing that I undertook my flights alone...
7000 miles in 36 legs over 6 weeks, alone in an open cock-pit[sic] plane.
I cannot control what other people say about what I do, whether it be in the media or otherwise.
Of course she herself has claimed she was alone. She has earned considerable sums of money for peddling the myth, and it is plain to see as it is now plastered all over the internet.
Has T C-T not considered the wisdom - or otherwise - of paying for legal help to defend herself against the consequences of her own claims in the face of such freely available proof that she is not telling the whole truth?
Does she really continue to believe that everyone else is really rather stupid? Quite extraordinary!
If the next phase of this irritatingly addictive, rather pathetic show is threatened "legal action against the individuals who were the sources for these articles as I consider them to be part of a course of conduct designed to cause damage and distress", we must presume she will be suing herself for being the source of the myth that she flew for "7000 miles in 36 legs over 6 weeks, alone in an open cock-pit plane", which is obviously now causing her such "damage and distress" which she freely admits.
Wow - this should be good!
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If he wasn't helping with the flying in any way whatsoever, why is there such a need for an engineer to be onboard the Stearman
So I have to trust that an experienced pilot would only carry things that they really thought they would need during the flight.....
I'm afraid I have finally snapped, my patience can only go so far.
The printers of my logbook have refused to add a 'sole hours' column, and, to add insult to injury are not even answering my requests to add an additional 'material hours' column.
How on earth am I supposed to log this flight time?
The printers of my logbook have refused to add a 'sole hours' column, and, to add insult to injury are not even answering my requests to add an additional 'material hours' column.
How on earth am I supposed to log this flight time?
Tabs please !
According to the above article, "Tracey ..... also flies for the Shuttleworth Collection". Is this another example of how she cannot control what is printed about her ? How did the magazine make that mistake ? Why not Duxford or any other similar organisation ? Was it just pure bad luck or did she spin them a yarn ?
To paraphrase Lady Bracknell - once is a misfortune, for it to happen repeatedly smacks of intention.
To paraphrase Lady Bracknell - once is a misfortune, for it to happen repeatedly smacks of intention.
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It appears there is a further step back from the solo claims with this news from the Australian Women Pilots Association.
After our last national committee meeting we amended the certificate and have resent it to Tracey.
Thank you for pointing out the fact that this was not a solo flight. I would never have noticed had it not been for your email. I do not follow PPRUNE as it is mainly people's views and not necessarily fact.
The submission that was made by our member never intended the honorary membership to be for a solo flight. She was well aware that the flight was not solo and said that Tracey had never suggested it was solo.
It was most likely my misinterpretation of the submission and the fact that I had not been following the venture religiously that I missed this important fact.
Carol Dehn
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Australian Women Pilots' Association
Thank you for pointing out the fact that this was not a solo flight. I would never have noticed had it not been for your email. I do not follow PPRUNE as it is mainly people's views and not necessarily fact.
The submission that was made by our member never intended the honorary membership to be for a solo flight. She was well aware that the flight was not solo and said that Tracey had never suggested it was solo.
It was most likely my misinterpretation of the submission and the fact that I had not been following the venture religiously that I missed this important fact.
Carol Dehn
National President
Australian Women Pilots' Association
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Boeing Press Release
Boeing Aircraft Corporation played a key role conveying to the worlds press that the Spirit of Artemis was on a solo world flight.
Perhaps their PR office in Chicago can explain this?
As far as I know there have been no lawyers shut up letters from Boeing. I would imagine Airbus execs were laughing when they saw the centenary PR stunt wrecked on American soil in Arizona.
Perhaps their PR office in Chicago can explain this?
News Release
Boeing Corporate Offices 100 N. Riverside Chicago, IL 60606 Boeing: The Boeing Company
PIONEERING FEMALE AVIATOR LANDS IN ABU DHABI IN HISTORIC BOEING BI-PLANE
- Boeing sponsors solo open cockpit flight from U.K. to Australia
- 4,000 miles completed of the 13,000-mile journey across 23 countries
Abu Dhabi – Nov. 4, 2015 - Adventurous British female aviator Tracey Curtis- Taylor landed safely today at Al-Bateen airport in Abu Dhabi in her classic 1942 Boeing Stearman Spirit of Artemis. The experienced pilot set off on her intrepid expedition from the U.K. to Australia October 1, aiming to fly 13,000 miles across 23 countries.
Speaking on arrival in Abu Dhabi, Tracey Curtis-Taylor said, "For my whole life, I have been moved by the achievements of pioneers like Amy Johnson. My own flight to Australia is the realisation of a burning desire to fly my beloved Boeing Stearman Spirit of Artemis around the world following in their footsteps.
Artemis. The experienced pilot set off on her intrepid expedition from the U.K. to Australia October 1, aiming to fly 13,000 miles across 23 countries.
Flying in from Saudi Arabia, her arrival in the United Arab Emirates completes 4,000 miles of stick and rudder flying exposed to the elements with basic period instruments. And her plane will be featured as part of the Boeing display at the upcoming Dubai Air Show, which starts on Sunday
Ms Curtis-Taylor is undertaking the flight to celebrate the pioneering days of early aviation in the 1920s and 1930s, and especially the achievements of revolutionary British aviator Amy Johnson. A celebrity of her day, Ms Johnson became the first woman to fly solo from Britain to Australia in 1930 and tragically died in mysterious circumstances during World War II flying for the Air Transport Auxiliary.
Speaking on arrival in Abu Dhabi, Tracey Curtis-Taylor said, "For my whole life, I have been moved by the achievements of pioneers like Amy Johnson. My own flight to Australia is the realisation of a burning desire to fly my beloved Boeing Stearman Spirit of Artemis around the world following in their footsteps.
full press release here http://www.boeing.com/resources/boei...essRelease.pdf
Boeing Corporate Offices 100 N. Riverside Chicago, IL 60606 Boeing: The Boeing Company
PIONEERING FEMALE AVIATOR LANDS IN ABU DHABI IN HISTORIC BOEING BI-PLANE
- Boeing sponsors solo open cockpit flight from U.K. to Australia
- 4,000 miles completed of the 13,000-mile journey across 23 countries
Abu Dhabi – Nov. 4, 2015 - Adventurous British female aviator Tracey Curtis- Taylor landed safely today at Al-Bateen airport in Abu Dhabi in her classic 1942 Boeing Stearman Spirit of Artemis. The experienced pilot set off on her intrepid expedition from the U.K. to Australia October 1, aiming to fly 13,000 miles across 23 countries.
Speaking on arrival in Abu Dhabi, Tracey Curtis-Taylor said, "For my whole life, I have been moved by the achievements of pioneers like Amy Johnson. My own flight to Australia is the realisation of a burning desire to fly my beloved Boeing Stearman Spirit of Artemis around the world following in their footsteps.
Artemis. The experienced pilot set off on her intrepid expedition from the U.K. to Australia October 1, aiming to fly 13,000 miles across 23 countries.
Flying in from Saudi Arabia, her arrival in the United Arab Emirates completes 4,000 miles of stick and rudder flying exposed to the elements with basic period instruments. And her plane will be featured as part of the Boeing display at the upcoming Dubai Air Show, which starts on Sunday
Ms Curtis-Taylor is undertaking the flight to celebrate the pioneering days of early aviation in the 1920s and 1930s, and especially the achievements of revolutionary British aviator Amy Johnson. A celebrity of her day, Ms Johnson became the first woman to fly solo from Britain to Australia in 1930 and tragically died in mysterious circumstances during World War II flying for the Air Transport Auxiliary.
Speaking on arrival in Abu Dhabi, Tracey Curtis-Taylor said, "For my whole life, I have been moved by the achievements of pioneers like Amy Johnson. My own flight to Australia is the realisation of a burning desire to fly my beloved Boeing Stearman Spirit of Artemis around the world following in their footsteps.
full press release here http://www.boeing.com/resources/boei...essRelease.pdf
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- If he wasn't helping with the flying in any way whatsoever, why is there such a need for an engineer to be onboard the Stearman as there are surely very few faults he would be able to fix in mid-air?
If that fit is indeed the case then surely it is proof that the aircraft was never intended to be flown cross country solo, as it couldn't be.
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nfnm,
To be fair, it appears that the nav and comms equipment was fitted in both cockpits.
Whether Tracey herself had ever managed to work out how to use it is, of course, quite another matter.
To be fair, it appears that the nav and comms equipment was fitted in both cockpits.
Whether Tracey herself had ever managed to work out how to use it is, of course, quite another matter.