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Old 22nd Aug 2017, 09:38
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Originally Posted by Nige321 View Post
Heads up... Anyone up for some awkward questions...
There needs to be one or two carefully thought out questions. What gets asks may depend on what transpires on the day. Even more importantly there needs to be follow up questions in readiness, to suit the range of potential answers to the initial question.

Also remember the golden rule, Never ask a question you don't know the answer to.
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Old 22nd Aug 2017, 16:59
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Originally Posted by BEagle View Post
What on earth do Yeovilton think they're doing?

Dear Marc Stone, if you think that Curtis-Taylor is in any way worthy of being associated with the name of the late Capt Brown, then I strongly urge you to think again!
Totally agree.
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Old 22nd Aug 2017, 18:07
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Thanks, bluntie - you are a chap who respects traditional values.

Currently I contribute a monthly sum to Navy Wings - after all, the FAA gave me my first flight in a military aeroplane in 1966. Coal hole of a 'Vixen at the Farnborough Air Show; mostly I was as sick as a parrot but loved every second. But if the RN has stooped to the level of inviting this woman to speak, I will most certainly be reviewing my future donation policy.
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Old 22nd Aug 2017, 21:19
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Beagle, it would appear that the RAeS is simply hiring the venue for one of their branch lectures? Would Yeovilton even know the subject or speaker for the event?
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Old 23rd Aug 2017, 06:38
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Yeovilton is a local branch of the RAeS. The event is being organised by a Lieutenant and TCT is being asked, volunteered, paid or whatever to give the Eric Brown lecture. I would say there is no doubt that Yeovilton know exactly who the speaker is etc. Don't forget she is an Honorary Lieutenant Commander also.
I find it so disrespectful to the memory of Captain Brown that this lecture should be given by someone who is not worthy. Don't forget she also gave the Shackleton lecture as well. Simply insulting.
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Old 23rd Aug 2017, 08:55
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She's only an Honorary Lt Cmdr in the eyes of the real world.

On her Facebook page she is an Honorary Commander. Not the biggest lie that she tells, but significant in terms of the location for this public appearance.

There can be few better examples of "self promotion" than this.
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Old 23rd Aug 2017, 14:30
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Something just doesn't ring true here !
I simply cannot believe that there is such a dearth of good quality speakers around the lecturing circuit that they have to resort to these dark depths.
I also cannot think how anyone with any sort of interest in aviation would want to give up their leisure time to listen to the dross which will she will undoubtedly be spouting forth.
But in the event of Lt Marc Stone having any unsold tickets , then I'm sure that the TC-T Rent-a-Mob will be on hand with rapturous applause and standing ovations.
She's pulled that one off before !
And anyone who's going along to nail her with any proper and relevant questions will probably get stamped on too.
And don't bother sending in any by-proxy either . Team-Tracey doesn't "do" by-proxy.
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Old 23rd Aug 2017, 18:34
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Well at least she turned up at the LAA to collect an award and was told that the members had voted her out. I saw her afterwards and she was shocked. Trouble is with those so-called 'celebs' they sometimes believe what the media write. Perhaps, with a bit of luck, no one will turn up for her lecture.
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Old 23rd Aug 2017, 20:19
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Originally Posted by sharpend View Post
Well at least she turned up at the LAA to collect an award and was told that the members had voted her out. I saw her afterwards and she was shocked.

Nearly correct old chum ,,,but wasn't quite as straightforward as that .


Trust me..! I know a couple of blokes who were there .


She and her cohorts had a darn good go at outrunning the truth on that day too...and bloody nearly succeeded .
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Old 26th Aug 2017, 19:51
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This is a disgrace. I had the great fortune to meet Capt Brown many many years ago whilst I was at Yeovilton. He was a guest at a Dining-In night. How anyone can mention TCT and EWB in the same sentence beggars belief, let alone having her lecture on his achievements.
Lt Marc Stone has provided a contact number. I think it would be fair to give him a call and bring him up to speed pretty sharpish to prevent any further embarrassment.
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Old 26th Aug 2017, 21:32
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I feel ashamed to have been a member of the RNAS. I didn't fly then, I just pulled them out of the wreckage, and had the greatest respect.
I cannot imagine a bigger insult to the memory of such a highly respected aviator and gentleman.
Utterly disgusted doesn't come close.
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Old 28th Aug 2017, 08:19
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Perhaps, at the eagerly awaited Yeovilton presentation , TC_T might possibly be able to explain the recently added comments on her "Wickie" site including that apparently:
" On both US tours the Stearman biplane was shipped across the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans, as it does not have the fuel range or instrumentation to cover such distances." (added italics)
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Old 30th Aug 2017, 20:44
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In the true spirit of promoting GA and global flyers it would be nice to think that Tracey Curtis Taylor will turn up to the LAA annual event. If nothing else to share her admiration for Colin Hales who managed to go the hard way around the world without sponsorship before his mishap in Japan. Or perhaps to admire those such as Maurice Kirk who battle their way across the hard bits of the world and never give up. Sadly I have looked at the programme and there is no mention of the woman who is an inspiration to 'aviatrix'.
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Old 31st Aug 2017, 09:37
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Her occupation is "Aviator".

It says so on her Wicki entry
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Old 31st Aug 2017, 17:13
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I emailed the RAeS politely asking whether they were aware of TCT's controversies and asking why they had chosen her for such an important lecture.

They havent even had the decency to acknowledge the email

Strange how these organisations just go dumb when challenged......
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Old 1st Sep 2017, 05:03
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We shouldn't make the mistake of thinking these organisations strive to represent aviation in general. They strive to represent themselves. The views of others are meaningless to them, which is their right, of course. It doesn't inspire any respect from those who aren't part of "the club" though.
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Old 3rd Sep 2017, 18:21
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Originally Posted by Chris Martyr View Post
Nearly correct old chum ,,,but wasn't quite as straightforward as that .


Trust me..! I know a couple of blokes who were there .


She and her cohorts had a darn good go at outrunning the truth on that day too...and bloody nearly succeeded .
Well Chris it is nearly a year since that momentous AGM when the majority of LAA members who voted, either in person or by postal vote, on the motion to strip the award from TC-T won the day. I was personally surprised at the support she got at the AGM, though it was insufficient to sway the result. The PR machine must have worked overtime but their efforts did not affect the result. Justice was done and I am proud to have played a part. The astonishing thing is that the saga continues on PPRuNe to the extent of nearly 200 pages. Is it not time to just forget this overblown female aviatrix whose cover is totally blown. My father once said to me "There are some silly buggers in China.... and they are not all there....!!!!".
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Old 5th Sep 2017, 13:13
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She is releasing a movie next year Barry. Maybe we will see you and Chris featured?

Meanwhile I see that N56200 is back in Austria and went for a local flight on August 25th.

There can't be many Stearmans that have crossed the Atlantic three times this summer :-) Full details of the USA trip,here http://www.birdinabiplane.com
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Old 7th Sep 2017, 08:24
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LAA-AGM 2016 was actually very enjoyable from the grass-roots aviation point of view. Listening to the wonderful talk by Arthur Ord-Hume was a privlilege indeed and Rusty , the old Lancaster boy did a superb turn with his understated and self deprecating sense of humour and the way he made light of the awful times that he went through.
Even Brian Davies' bit on LAA's governance/balance books was interesting , as I knew that membership figures had dipped slightly , but was unaware that the aircraft ownership figures amongst the membership were considerably higher, which meant increased revenue. Plus some great aeroplanes turned up too.
There was only one thing that cast a shadow over that day , but as George Formby said,,"turned out nice again di'nt it".


As for Jay's comment about making it into a movie,,,,,,,,I'm still chuckling over that one. I reckon Barry should be played by George Clooney and I should be played by Brad Pitt. [ although, Pitt the Elder would be more apt]
Ewald should be played by Tom Cruise . It would need to be a short guy so we can't see his head in that front cockpit.
As for the "star",,,,,,,,,,,,,I can't think of a better actress than; TC-T as Herself....
Right , I'm off to Deanland,,,,[at least , when I've stopped giggling that is]
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Old 8th Sep 2017, 05:49
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Rusty , the old Lancaster boy did a superb turn with his understated and self deprecating sense of humour and the way he made light of the awful times that he went through.
I had the privilege of flying to Belgium with Rusty a week or so ago when, amongst other things, we visited the site where the Lancaster with which he collided after a raid on the rail yards at Hasselt crashed, as well as the cemetery where the crew members of that aircraft are buried. For those who don't know him, he flew 30 operations winning, amongst other things, a DFC. He also earned the right to wear his RAF wings the hard way.

As you say: he is a remarkable man who has carried with him for over 70 years memories of things that nobody should ever have to face, as well as self-deprecating courage that is in stark contrast to what he might have referred to as "line shooting" in the vernacular of his times and which has featured so prominently in this thread.

BTW: I'd like to make it clear that, although Rusty was in the right seat, and is a better qualified pilot than I will ever be, I was the "Sole Pilot"
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