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Old 18th May 2017, 19:54
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Originally Posted by Art E. Fischler-Reisen
There seems to be another discrepancy, with regard to TCT's HCAP membership, which I've wondered about for some time. I believe she is, or was (I can no longer check this since I resigned from that organisation) listed as an "Upper Freeman" which is applicable only to professional pilots. But by her own admission, as per the report above, she is not a professional pilot.
But at one point she had an instructor rating which I assume would mean she passed a commercial checkride prior to instructing, so I suppose at a stretch the commercial qualification would make her a "professional" pilot
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I just can't see the point of shipping the Stearman back out to Arizona just to fly it to the East Coast, as said before it's not achieving anything nor is it noteworthy, it's just 25 hours of the same old shyte in a non challenging environment as the attached vid of my recent coast to coast bimble over Arizona
shows it's just a whole bunch of desert followed by a big wide open plain till you hit the beach on the other side.

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0I532ODWEosO

She'd be better doing something like flying across Russia or China.
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Originally Posted by piperboy84
I just can't see the point of shipping the Stearman back out to Arizona just to fly it to the East Coast, as said before it's not achieving anything nor is it noteworthy, it's just 25 hours of the same old shyte in a non challenging environment as the attached vid of my recent coast to coast bimble over Arizona
shows it's just a whole bunch of desert followed by a big wide open plain till you hit the beach on the other side.

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0I532ODWEosO

She'd be better doing something like flying across Russia or China.
She be better giving the money it will cost to sponsoring a couple of kids through CPL training.
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Old 20th May 2017, 19:39
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Totally agree. But that was Boeing and Marshalls who pushed the public flying display
I have it on excellent inside info that Marshalls never played any part in promoting TCT. However I have emails from other sources that Boeing insisted on her Masters Medal from HCAP.
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Jay Sata wrote:
However I have emails from other sources that Boeing insisted on her Masters Medal from HCAP.
Can you substantiate that allegation?
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Miss TCT has just arrived in the States, West Coast, so maybe they really are going to continue the flight.
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I hope the Americans appreciate your warning tractorpuller.

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I have come across these articles. "Jaw dropping" doesn't seem to cover it.
Apart from the dreadful prose, faux adventurism and complete b******t about "empowerment for girls", she is still playing the solo card. Please see the last paragraph of the second quote for a deliberate obfuscation of the truth.
My favourite quote:"...I think that's what I'd like to do going forward, go back to these places".


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This fantastic quest. There is a key to everybodyís life and you just have to find it. For me it turned out to be old aeroplanes, in a way that I never expected. It is actually the biggest surprise in my life when I look back, I never really had any sense that it would come to this. It is intrinsic to me.Ē

Tracey flies a Steaman, a vintage biplane. You will notice that the pilot sits in the second seat, which is fine for looking over the side when flying , but visibility not so good on the ground. Having successfully flown from Cape Town to Goodwood in 2013, Tracey Curtis-Taylor next took on the challenge of flying her vintage biplane to Australia. These flights recreate and celebrate Lady Mary Heath and Amy Johnson. On her flight to Australia, she visited many countries.

ďIn my working life, I never call it a career, it seems like I had a succession of fantastic jobs and then I just learnt on the hoof with it.Ē



Inspiring the next generation

ďItĎs about young people, reminding them whatís gone on in history, particularly focused around girls and women. Flying out to Australia, visiting the girlsí schools along the way, through Jordan, I was meeting girls and mentoring womenís groups. They love the aeroplane. To be able to tell them about the stories, the struggles that women have had historically. It surprised me how moved I was by it. I think thatís what Iíd like to do going forward, to go back to these places.

Iíve always had a sense of history, I love reading about colonial history particularly. The scramble for Africa. Iíve been reading that book for 10 years. Now having flown to Australia, having visited visited all these countries, I want to understand what happened. The Russian empire. The British empire . Those are the struggles that interest me, because they shaped so much of the modern world.

The plan is to complete the circumnavigation of the world in 2017. Finish the flight across America from Windsor in Arizona where we crashed. Flying Africa, these expeditions, this is the best thing, with an incredibly fantastic team, whole network of support and sponsor ship. The best thing Iíve ever done. All my early years, I was very determined. I had great longings. I was obsessed by horses. Out on the moor, the horse was just my release, a way to freedom. Back in Canada, one day there was as sign at the side of the road, 20 minutes introductory flight in a Cessna. The instructor, this poor chap who was Austrian, just couldnít get rid of me. I was there with him for 4 hours We took a charter trip of politicians to Vancouver island in a bigger plane. My friend was getting more and more worried, I had just disappeared.Ē



Education

ďThe first difference for girls, I was aware of was at school when the boys could join air cadets, the boys in our class were doing navigation O levels, and gliding.

ďThereís a huge drive to encourage more women into the aerospace industry. It starts with that basic education into STEM subjects. Ē

For me it starts much younger than that. You need very small children exposed to the idea of flight. I think everyone is excited by the idea of flight When I was 6 my cousin bought a little balsa wood plane with an elastic band that you wind up. The pair of us would spend hours flying a little windup plane and he would send me up into trees, to get it..Ē

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All female air traffic controllers at Marka airport, Amman Jordan
Gender differences.

ďMy father used to take to me to airshows. They are the biggest outdoor event next to football. If you get children before they become polarised or sexualised then give them these things. Let them understand how it works.

I canít believe that girls are any different to boys. I know that some boys have a natural affinity to engineering, no doubt about it. Iíve seen it . Having taught flying to both men and women as well , Iíve seen how men men and women respond differently in the cockpit. Whether it is or testosterone whether it is biological thing, women just donít seem to have the innate confidence that men do. You have to be brave, you have to make brave choices . Amy Johnson had a huge amount of determination, she had that quality of stamina.

I was visiting the girlsí schools along the way, to Australia. I was meeting girls and mentoring womenís groups particularly the middle East. Jordan, Saudi on through Pakistan. Its been very touching to see, in these countries the basic human rights, and glaring inequality, particularly in the middle east.We have huge opportunities.

ďIíve just lived according to my desire, my sense of adventure my love of mobility and freedom, those two things have been very important to me Iíve made choices, not bogged down with families or domestics.Ē

Advice

ďThereís a time for everything. Thatís the other thing for young people. they never tell you how much time youíve got. Thereís always this sense of urgency . Thereí so much out there, pace yourself through it. Itís not just about one career, every job Iíve had has been a different life. Iíve had many lives in many countries incredibly rich and diverse. Thatís what we want to convey to people. It is all out there. It is so magical. Yet weíre bombarded by the war, the violence, the terrorism, the hatred thatís the awful part. Donít get blinkered in your approach When youíre out in the world you have to get out and live it. There are amazing people and amazing opportunities.Ē
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Flying a vintage aeroplane and flying a light modern aircraft with a glass cockpit is as different as chalk and cheese. It is the difference different between riding a bike and being in a car. Back in 1930 there was no airspace. Amy Johnson had open skies. One of my difficulties is going through complicated airspace, international boundaries. Flying in an open cockpit, with stick and rudder is very different.
ďA model light aircraft has instruments in a covered controlled environment. They are flying high riding the airwaves and can fly at night, on autopilot. I donít have that. I have to be able to see the ground, no cloud, and must have forward vision. No night flying.
portrait amy Johnson and Tracey
Tracey in front of her heroine Amy Johnson
ďIt is very physical flying, a lot of noise, vibration, changing temperatures, I am flying 1000 feet above the ground, sometimes lower. I do have some modern instruments. I have a radio which Amy Johnson didnít have. I have a GPS so they can track you through controlled airspace. Though these instruments are a requirement, by choice I wouldnít have them. I donít like gadgets, modern technology doesnít interest me.
The flying lady mascot on the bonnet of the rolls, Spirit of Ecstasy, inspired Tracey Curtis Taylor, to name the Stearman the Spirit of Artemis. She saw an advertisement for Artemis Fund Managers. Artemis the profit hunter.
ďIt featured a World War II old airplane flying over a desert island. It seemed someone had a creative romantic view of adventure But I didnít write for a year, because I knew I had to present a plan, a coherent business model. I found the Chief Executive of Artemis on the internet, and I wrote to him personally. ďI saw your advertisement and it captures completely what Iím doing here, recreating the route of the first person to fly Africa, 1928 Lady Mary Heath.Ē
Within half an hour of sending the email, his PA phoned saying he wants to meet you. It was something which fired his imagination, and we made it happen. Artemis are philanthropic, big supporters of Tusk in Africa. Elephant conservation in Africa, became a cornerstone of the of the Artemis flight. It comes back to values. The partnership has to reflect the values of what youíre doing. It was about heritage, celebrating what the pioneers had achieved. It was about modern issues, like conservation in Africa.
Flying solo
ďI was absolutely thrilled to get my flying license, it was such a huge effort to do. When you go solo, itís always a profound moment. Youíre so bloody frightened, you lie awake at night, I never actually thought Iíd be a pilot. But I wasnít a professional pilot, this is the point, although Iíve instructed for years, thatís different. I never trained to be a commercial pilot.
Journeys
Having successfully flown from Cape Town to Goodwood in 2013, Tracey flew her vintage biplane to Australia. These flights recreate and celebrate Lady Mary Heath and Amy Johnson. On her flight to Australia, she visited many countries.
ďFlying Africa, these expeditions, with an incredibly fantastic team, a whole network of support and sponsor ship. It is the best thing Iíve ever done. The plan is to complete the circumnavigation of the world in 2017. Finish the flight across America from Windsor in Arizona where we crashed.
Inspiring the next generation
ďItís about young people, reminding them whatís gone on in history, particularly focused around girls and women. Flying out to Australia, visiting the girlsí schools along the way, through Jordan, I was meeting girls and mentoring womenís groups, particularly in the middle East, Jordan, Saudi, on through Pakistan. Itís been very touching to see, in these countries, basic human rights, and glaring inequality, particularly in the Middle East. They love the aeroplane, and to hear about the endless stories to be able to tell them about the stories and the struggles that women have had historically. It surprised me how moved I was by it. I think thatís what Iíd like to do going forward, to go back to these places.
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Tracey flew her vintage biplane to Australia.
Left out the word "in" between flew and her.

Add poor proof reading to clareprop's opening comments.

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"Our....?"

One of my difficulties is going through complicated airspace,
...er.. "our difficulties "... ?
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The instructor, this poor chap who was Austrian, just couldnít get rid of me.
Thankyou for the chuckle, Madam Solo. We know just what you mean.
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Is it her vintage biplane?
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Old 19th Jun 2017, 10:47
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I have a GPS so they can track you through controlled airspace.

No, that's what the transponder is for.


I don’t like gadgets, modern technology doesn’t interest me.

Will she be ditching the GPS and I-Pad that is slaved to it ............... nope.
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"The poor Austrian instructor chap just couldn't get rid of me".


And she's still tagging along on his adventures even now.


What a great girl , she has a sense of irony like no-one else I've ever met...
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Originally Posted by Chris Martyr
"The poor Austrian instructor chap just couldn't get rid of me".


And she's still tagging along on his adventures even now.


What a great girl , she has a sense of irony like no-one else I've ever met...
What she has in a sense of irony amply makes up for the other senses that she lacks.

Morality
Honour
Integrity
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I am waiting to see how this next phase pans out and how many (if any) of those sponsorship badges have been removed/replaced and if the offending "wings" have been located to a more appropriate and less offensive position.
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Old 22nd Jun 2017, 23:34
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Interesting. Planefinder.net shows N56200 left the Glendale area, flew down to LA and headed NE then E towards San Antonio area.

Looks like the flight is on.
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Old 23rd Jun 2017, 01:15
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Originally Posted by SATCOS WHIPPING BOY
Interesting. Planefinder.net shows N56200 left the Glendale area, flew down to LA and headed NE then E towards San Antonio area.

Looks like the flight is on.
Looks like it departed either Whiteman or Burbank circled round downtown then headed out of town.
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Old 23rd Jun 2017, 13:07
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This is getting to be almost as exciting as the Maurice Kirk in Africa thread.....
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Old 23rd Jun 2017, 14:25
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Looks like it departed either Whiteman or Burbank
In fact, Flightradar24 shows it at 1904UTC climbing through 600ft just west of SMO with a destination of ONT. It then flies up to Griffith Park before turning south. However, the flight is not shown on Flight Aware which records only a local flight by the aircraft SMO-SMO on Wednesday.
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