Flying to Barrow Walney Island Airport ( EGNL)
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Flying to Barrow Walney Island Airport ( EGNL)
I've done a lot of searching and found some information on this forum and 1 or 2 others, but in general not much information all together. I was wondering if someone could help me answer these questions:
can I fly and land there? seems like you can during the week if you call ahead at least 24 hours, is this correct?
can you stay over night here? I have found no information on this. Imagine if I wanted to fly in on a friday, spend the weekend and leave on monday. wondering if this is possible.
What about leaving on a weekend during off hours, is the airport closed just like it would be for arriving? or are departures treated differently?
are there any fees to land and stay here?
Thanks for any information, appreciate it.
can I fly and land there? seems like you can during the week if you call ahead at least 24 hours, is this correct?
can you stay over night here? I have found no information on this. Imagine if I wanted to fly in on a friday, spend the weekend and leave on monday. wondering if this is possible.
What about leaving on a weekend during off hours, is the airport closed just like it would be for arriving? or are departures treated differently?
are there any fees to land and stay here?
Thanks for any information, appreciate it.
It's a company airport, run by BAe Systems - there's also virtually nothing there but the submarine works and the town of Barrow, which is basically a company town (although I'm told it has a single good hotel).
Given that, I think that the only way you're going to get a useful answer is to contact them directly.
Flight ops are on +44 1229 471407, I'd suggest just phoning and asking. But I think that you're likely to find that it's "company business only", which is fairly normal with BAeS airports.
Looks like a lovely quiet spot whenever I've flown over it en-route north, but I've never stopped.
Best alternate is probably Blackpool.
G
Given that, I think that the only way you're going to get a useful answer is to contact them directly.
Flight ops are on +44 1229 471407, I'd suggest just phoning and asking. But I think that you're likely to find that it's "company business only", which is fairly normal with BAeS airports.
Looks like a lovely quiet spot whenever I've flown over it en-route north, but I've never stopped.
Best alternate is probably Blackpool.
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It's a company airport, run by BAe Systems - there's also virtually nothing there but the submarine works and the town of Barrow, which is basically a company town (although I'm told it has a single good hotel).
Given that, I think that the only way you're going to get a useful answer is to contact them directly.
Flight ops are on +44 1229 471407, I'd suggest just phoning and asking. But I think that you're likely to find that it's "company business only", which is fairly normal with BAeS airports.
Looks like a lovely quiet spot whenever I've flown over it en-route north, but I've never stopped.
Best alternate is probably Blackpool.
G
Given that, I think that the only way you're going to get a useful answer is to contact them directly.
Flight ops are on +44 1229 471407, I'd suggest just phoning and asking. But I think that you're likely to find that it's "company business only", which is fairly normal with BAeS airports.
Looks like a lovely quiet spot whenever I've flown over it en-route north, but I've never stopped.
Best alternate is probably Blackpool.
G
If not available then try 'Cark' airfield just along the coast.
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While they are theoretically open to visiting aircraft, as GtE said, it is run purely for the use of the BAeS company King Airs.
I must have tried to go on about a dozen occasions in the last year and actually succeeded maybe a quarter of the times.
The people are nice enough, but organisationally, they will seize on the slightest opportunity to deny permission.
The 24 hour PPR to start with, why they need notified a full day ahead beggars belief, they are possibly the least busy licenced airfield in the country.
Last time I asked they wouldn't accept PPL training flights, nor will they let you use their IAPs.
Other "reasons" for not accepting non-company aircraft we've had include;
RFFS training, but they don't provide it for visitors except on request (see their AIP entry), nor did we need it.
Our ETA/ETD was too close to the company shuttle flights.
They were doing FISO training! You'd think a bit of traffic would be useful for that?
There was something getting launched at the shipyard.
Their ILS was getting calibrated, other airports seem to manage to do this without closing down, even to VFR traffic?
It's really become something of a standing joke when we ring up for PPR, what will today's excuse be??
I would think you've absolutely no chance of a departure outside of operational hours.
I'd also bet they'd not want your aircraft parked there unattended over the weekend.
I think the landing fee was about £15, cash or cheque only, no cards.
Of course, it's their airfield, so they can run it as they wish. I'll be interested to see how you get on though.
I must have tried to go on about a dozen occasions in the last year and actually succeeded maybe a quarter of the times.
The people are nice enough, but organisationally, they will seize on the slightest opportunity to deny permission.
The 24 hour PPR to start with, why they need notified a full day ahead beggars belief, they are possibly the least busy licenced airfield in the country.
Last time I asked they wouldn't accept PPL training flights, nor will they let you use their IAPs.
Other "reasons" for not accepting non-company aircraft we've had include;
RFFS training, but they don't provide it for visitors except on request (see their AIP entry), nor did we need it.
Our ETA/ETD was too close to the company shuttle flights.
They were doing FISO training! You'd think a bit of traffic would be useful for that?
There was something getting launched at the shipyard.
Their ILS was getting calibrated, other airports seem to manage to do this without closing down, even to VFR traffic?
It's really become something of a standing joke when we ring up for PPR, what will today's excuse be??
I would think you've absolutely no chance of a departure outside of operational hours.
I'd also bet they'd not want your aircraft parked there unattended over the weekend.
I think the landing fee was about £15, cash or cheque only, no cards.
Of course, it's their airfield, so they can run it as they wish. I'll be interested to see how you get on though.
Last edited by mrmum; 2nd Mar 2016 at 20:04. Reason: Add cost info
WRT the IAPs, as it's only AFIS I suspect the CAA will only permit them to be used for 'company' aircraft. I understand for the ILS at least, you have to be vectored by Warton Radar, so if that isn't available for any reason, the iap isn't available either.
Used to know a lovely girl called Stella who was initially an ATCO there, then became A/G when they de-licensed, then FISO when they re-licensed. Like me she was a member of adult staff in the Air Training Corps. I met her at Bisley duing the Cadet Rifle competitions; lost touch with her now so she may not work there any more. I know when they advertised for Kingair pilots a couple of years ago they wanted you to have a FISO Licence too.
Used to know a lovely girl called Stella who was initially an ATCO there, then became A/G when they de-licensed, then FISO when they re-licensed. Like me she was a member of adult staff in the Air Training Corps. I met her at Bisley duing the Cadet Rifle competitions; lost touch with her now so she may not work there any more. I know when they advertised for Kingair pilots a couple of years ago they wanted you to have a FISO Licence too.
