Flying night VFR without licence back?
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I may have not been clear, I appreciate it would be an IRRE but my point here is that he does not have IRRE, but has IRR(A) which the CAA assured him was correct in EASA speak for IRRE. He also has IR(R) for an IMC rating.
I on the other hand do not hold any IRRE privileges, but have an IMC rating and the corresponding entry on my licence is "IRR(A)".
I on the other hand do not hold any IRRE privileges, but have an IMC rating and the corresponding entry on my licence is "IRR(A)".
No examiner ratings are entered on the licence we have them on a separate page and the is no IRR(A) it is a CRE with IR revalidation privileges listed in what we can do. I have never seen a standalone IR revalidation rating.
The CAA make made a right dogs dinner of entering ratings into licences and its making a nightmare of a job for us as examiners as they come around for renewal and revalidation to know what to put on the forms. It has led to a lot of phone called recently.
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From the CAA Standards doc:
So by virtue of my FAA IR I now have an IRR(A)....Nice, I guess I don't need to do the CBM IR after all. Thank you CAA !
IRR: Instrument Rating Revalidation privileges
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Nice try...... Having Instrument rating revalidation privileges is embedded within another examiner rating, it is not a licence rating.
The IRR(A) is not the first case I have seen of a lack of continuity.
I have seen in the last couple of weeks:
For IMCr
IRR(A)
IR(Restricted)
For IR(A)
IR(A)
Instrument
IR-SP-nonHPCA
IR SE
IR SP ME Class
In my licence my IR(A) appears in Section XII as Instrument. In the Certificate of revalidation page it appeared originally as IR SP non HPCA and then became IR SP ME Class as well as the type rating specific entries.
The IMCr now appears as IR (Restricted) in both sections.
There are other anomalies as well on things like my FI(A), CRI SE/ME and IRI(A) that don't match other company pilots.
On speaking to the CAA the answer is 'don't worry' its all correct!!!
Mind you its still does not get over the stupidity of having the entire rear of lthe licence with 'Intentionally Blank' on it and having to use separate revalidation pages for my ratings!!
The IRR(A) is not the first case I have seen of a lack of continuity.
I have seen in the last couple of weeks:
For IMCr
IRR(A)
IR(Restricted)
For IR(A)
IR(A)
Instrument
IR-SP-nonHPCA
IR SE
IR SP ME Class
In my licence my IR(A) appears in Section XII as Instrument. In the Certificate of revalidation page it appeared originally as IR SP non HPCA and then became IR SP ME Class as well as the type rating specific entries.
The IMCr now appears as IR (Restricted) in both sections.
There are other anomalies as well on things like my FI(A), CRI SE/ME and IRI(A) that don't match other company pilots.
On speaking to the CAA the answer is 'don't worry' its all correct!!!
Mind you its still does not get over the stupidity of having the entire rear of lthe licence with 'Intentionally Blank' on it and having to use separate revalidation pages for my ratings!!
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@Dave Wilson, # 17 
Dave, What makes you think all us non-pilots are as thick as pig5h1t and incapable of understanding the nuances and increased risks of IFR and Night flight?
sorry, mate, it's only a bit of paper you earned jumping through a few hoops... it doesn't confer common-sense, intelligence or god-like insight.
certain people I'd happily fly in a SEP at night/IFR with....others, i'd decline a trip in perfect conditions......Know your man (or woman!)
Dave, What makes you think all us non-pilots are as thick as pig5h1t and incapable of understanding the nuances and increased risks of IFR and Night flight?
sorry, mate, it's only a bit of paper you earned jumping through a few hoops... it doesn't confer common-sense, intelligence or god-like insight.
certain people I'd happily fly in a SEP at night/IFR with....others, i'd decline a trip in perfect conditions......Know your man (or woman!)
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I have both an IR (Single engine only) and a IMCr
On my EASA licence these are described as IR-SP-SE (=IR) and IRR(A) (=IMCr).
On my retained UK Licence these are described as IR-SP-SE and IMC respectively.
Good enough for me.
Cusco
On my EASA licence these are described as IR-SP-SE (=IR) and IRR(A) (=IMCr).
On my retained UK Licence these are described as IR-SP-SE and IMC respectively.
Good enough for me.
Cusco
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Dave, What makes you think all us non-pilots are as thick as pig5h1t and incapable of understanding the nuances and increased risks of IFR and Night flight?