Do you always check notams
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Of course not, it takes up valuable time.
So do pre-flight checks, as it flew before, I just kick the tyres to make sure they are okay, jump in and start up. That's good enough.
Then, You can do a Direct To on the GPS and save a whole load of hassle in outdated pre-flight planning.
If the GPS fails, just call D&D and get a series of training fixes to get home.
And an AA road atlas is much more use than an overpriced CCA chart.
Simples.
So do pre-flight checks, as it flew before, I just kick the tyres to make sure they are okay, jump in and start up. That's good enough.
Then, You can do a Direct To on the GPS and save a whole load of hassle in outdated pre-flight planning.
If the GPS fails, just call D&D and get a series of training fixes to get home.
And an AA road atlas is much more use than an overpriced CCA chart.
Simples.
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Problem with using non-official sources of NOTAMs is that it puts another link in the notification chain. If something gets missed and for example you bust some short notice controlled airspace and get reported, you have little or no no defence in law because the unofficial source has no legal obligation.
I stick to the AIS website.
F3G, I used to know a few other pilots like that. One has a memorial plaque at my local airfield.
(Yeh, I know you're joking, but I'm not...)
I stick to the AIS website.
F3G, I used to know a few other pilots like that. One has a memorial plaque at my local airfield.
(Yeh, I know you're joking, but I'm not...)
He should have picked up the concept of NOTAMS from the theory, surely?
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Interesting point about the delays in skydemon light as at a recent atc open day at linton on ouse one of the main chaps from ais gave a presentation and answered questions on skydemon light. Apparently it uses the exact same data base as the ais website so not sure how you get delays.
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Ditto with SkyDemonLight. In particular the graphical display of Red Arrows and BBMF routes has proved invaluable in flight planning to avoid them. The chart information displayed can easily be checked as well.
The only failing I've seen is that the updates are not real time, so instant NOTAMS are not displayed, only those included in monthly updates. We've seen several months worth of delays showing new wind turbine masts.
I use SDL first, and top up with AIS
The only failing I've seen is that the updates are not real time, so instant NOTAMS are not displayed, only those included in monthly updates. We've seen several months worth of delays showing new wind turbine masts.
I use SDL first, and top up with AIS
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You have two choices. Be a gash, careless, not really pay attention to standards type of pilot. Or you can have a professional approach to your flying, pay careful attention to all sources of info and actually progress in your development.
Sadly it sounds like you've already decided to be the former.
Sadly it sounds like you've already decided to be the former.
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Thing/Shy Torque,
Is the Wittering/Cottesmore MATZ situation much like ours and Barkston Heath?
In other words, where (as far as I am aware) CWL Approach are responsible for "Barking Mad" as well? When we are flying a local bimble for GH exercises we stay out of Cottesmore MATZ for ease more than anything else!
As to NOTAMS, yes, always check, without fail!!!! Isn't NOTAM checking drummed into every PPL Student and therefore second nature to every PPL holder?!
Is the Wittering/Cottesmore MATZ situation much like ours and Barkston Heath?
In other words, where (as far as I am aware) CWL Approach are responsible for "Barking Mad" as well? When we are flying a local bimble for GH exercises we stay out of Cottesmore MATZ for ease more than anything else!
As to NOTAMS, yes, always check, without fail!!!! Isn't NOTAM checking drummed into every PPL Student and therefore second nature to every PPL holder?!
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I always check them, I don't think it was drummed into me during my PPL course, but I remember it from the theory. I suppose it depends on well you link what you learn in the theory to actual flying.
I'm also a very nosey individual and I like to know everything that is going on, which makes me read NOTAMs.
One time checking NOTAMs always stands out for me:
20 knot wind blowing directly cross the main runway (out of limits for me), no problem can use the second runway, only about 5 knots cross on that. NOTAM issued stating the second runway was unavailable all day, had I not read that I would have driven to the airport, pre-flight checked the aircraft, started up and called for tax to then be told the second runway was unavailable, saved me a lot of hassle.
I'm also a very nosey individual and I like to know everything that is going on, which makes me read NOTAMs.
One time checking NOTAMs always stands out for me:
20 knot wind blowing directly cross the main runway (out of limits for me), no problem can use the second runway, only about 5 knots cross on that. NOTAM issued stating the second runway was unavailable all day, had I not read that I would have driven to the airport, pre-flight checked the aircraft, started up and called for tax to then be told the second runway was unavailable, saved me a lot of hassle.
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Grob Queen,
Hello....I say again....
Cottesmore doesn't have a MATZ......
RTFNOTAMS!
When we are flying a local bimble for GH exercises we stay out of Cottesmore MATZ for ease more than anything else!
Cottesmore doesn't have a MATZ......
RTFNOTAMS!
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Shy Torque,
I probably wasn't clear enough, sorry. What I meant was I wonder if Wittering control Cottesmore airspace too....Cottesmore also still show on my up to date chart as having a MATZ and 130.2.
However, having thought more about this, I think I have heard that they are NOTAM notified only - and the charts just dont say this...so we are both correct! The airspace is still designated a MATZ, but only now by NOTAM.
I probably wasn't clear enough, sorry. What I meant was I wonder if Wittering control Cottesmore airspace too....Cottesmore also still show on my up to date chart as having a MATZ and 130.2.
However, having thought more about this, I think I have heard that they are NOTAM notified only - and the charts just dont say this...so we are both correct! The airspace is still designated a MATZ, but only now by NOTAM.
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I always use SkyDemon last thing at home, even for a bimble, and I always call the hotline whilst driving to the airfield. Then I would check the board at the flying club. They are normally aware of anything local.
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One of the things that made me ask the origional question was the number of times I hear people booking out then changing their intentions once airborne and zapping off to a field in the opposite direction. I suppose it may come under the description of a bimble.
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Grob Queen,
Cottesmore was the controlling authority for the CMATZ, when it existed as such. As far as I know, nothing has changed because it hasn't been NOTAMed.
No, the MATZ is no longer being promulgated as activated by NOTAM, however that was the initial NOTAM when Cottesmore first stopped flying operations. See post #16 on this thread, which gives the latest one on the AIS website.
Cottesmore was the controlling authority for the CMATZ, when it existed as such. As far as I know, nothing has changed because it hasn't been NOTAMed.
No, the MATZ is no longer being promulgated as activated by NOTAM, however that was the initial NOTAM when Cottesmore first stopped flying operations. See post #16 on this thread, which gives the latest one on the AIS website.
One of the things that made me ask the origional question was the number of times I hear people booking out then changing their intentions once airborne and zapping off to a field in the opposite direction.