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From somebody who knows the aircraft and the seller from many moons ago, it is an eye-opener to really see how much bull can be posted on a forum.
For £18,500 I'd say it was a bargain and as for the seller, top bloke and an engineer who I have trusted for the last 20 years.
The real topic of conversation should be the demise of Barton and the circumstances that have led to the aircraft being sold.
Some people just need to get a grip of what really matters, especially concerning the hobby / profession we all read these forums for.
(was going to check for spelling and grammar mistakes, but that would have been hypocritical
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For £18,500 I'd say it was a bargain and as for the seller, top bloke and an engineer who I have trusted for the last 20 years.
The real topic of conversation should be the demise of Barton and the circumstances that have led to the aircraft being sold.
Some people just need to get a grip of what really matters, especially concerning the hobby / profession we all read these forums for.
(was going to check for spelling and grammar mistakes, but that would have been hypocritical
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Agreed, it's infuriating to see a well-respected guy with this much experience berated in such a manner. It's bad enough him being forced to sell a much-loved aircraft...
We're also trying to decide whether it's worth hanging on at Barton in case things change for the better.
We're also trying to decide whether it's worth hanging on at Barton in case things change for the better.
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but that would have been hypocritical
My housemaster at school accused me, on my school report, of being hypocritical, which I am not, and I resented the comment and told him so. He meant hypercritical, which I am and readily admit to.
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Silvaire1: ...the EU Government switched from Z to S in midstream a few years ago and as a result has both in the voluminous written record of their bureaucracy
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"The CAA have..."; "The team are great..."; "There's two of us..."; "There's too much people..", etc.
The problem is kids aren't taught grammar at school anymore and the teachers speak as badly as the worst of them!
It drives me mad - must be getting old...
The problem is kids aren't taught grammar at school anymore and the teachers speak as badly as the worst of them!
It drives me mad - must be getting old...
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Overall it doesn't matter how words are spelt because it's all about communication.
However, rightly or wrongly, we do tend to judge our peers on the spelling and grammar of their written communications.
And I, for one, will continue to do so.
However, rightly or wrongly, we do tend to judge our peers on the spelling and grammar of their written communications.
And I, for one, will continue to do so.
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I think this thread has thrown up two distinct, and entertaining aspects.
1 Peel Holdings are trying to run a business, and some people think that's being done unfairly. In terms of wheels within wheels, perhaps "driving the maintenance operation out of town" is part of a master plan. Remember that Peel Holdings is not about providing affordable GA, it is about making money for the shareholders.
2 Someone, (and we don't know who it is) has displayed appalling written English skills on Ebay and some of us are "aving a right larf" at that being the best that some people can do. Being unable to do better is one thing, but not knowing of that limitation and getting help is another.
The crossover point is that someone with such a limited grasp of writing feels qualified to deride the efforts of a business which is clearly winning this particular battle.
1 Peel Holdings are trying to run a business, and some people think that's being done unfairly. In terms of wheels within wheels, perhaps "driving the maintenance operation out of town" is part of a master plan. Remember that Peel Holdings is not about providing affordable GA, it is about making money for the shareholders.
2 Someone, (and we don't know who it is) has displayed appalling written English skills on Ebay and some of us are "aving a right larf" at that being the best that some people can do. Being unable to do better is one thing, but not knowing of that limitation and getting help is another.
The crossover point is that someone with such a limited grasp of writing feels qualified to deride the efforts of a business which is clearly winning this particular battle.
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someone with such a limited grasp of writing feels qualified to deride the efforts of a business which is clearly winning this particular battle.
I'm not saying this is the case here, I'm just making a suggestion.
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Surely someone intelligent, whether dyslexic or not, will understand the negative implications of such poor English and for self interest take appropriate steps, whether asking for help or/and spell checking, to maximise achieving the highest price?
How many people have seen the advert and as a consequence of the written English not taken it seriously?
For me allowing such poor English to be used in an internet advert says more about the individual than being poor at English, irrespective of how great an engineer he may be.
BB
How many people have seen the advert and as a consequence of the written English not taken it seriously?
For me allowing such poor English to be used in an internet advert says more about the individual than being poor at English, irrespective of how great an engineer he may be.
BB
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I am inclined to agree with you, but you are not dyslexic and nor am I (*), so our perspective is different. My dyslexic friend is extremely proud and for years went through life refusing to accept any help or criticism of his poor spelling, in fact he was in denial of it.
He started his working life as an engineer, and did well, but when he branched into consultancy he realised that he would not be taken seriously unless his documentation was of a higher standard, so he employed a lady to take care of that side of things for him and has done extremely well. And the lady became his wife!
(*) ta last i dn'ot tihnk i are
He started his working life as an engineer, and did well, but when he branched into consultancy he realised that he would not be taken seriously unless his documentation was of a higher standard, so he employed a lady to take care of that side of things for him and has done extremely well. And the lady became his wife!
(*) ta last i dn'ot tihnk i are
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I agree with BB. I would get an advert right.
One reason is that, in most walks of business/life, the most desirable buyers are educated people who definitely do spot bad grammar and judge it accordingly. That's why when you are starting a business, setting up a very clean corporate image helps dramatically in selecting a high quality customer base. If your promotional material is badly written, you have cut off both of your legs before you even started, and the only customers you will pick up will be people who are similarly illiterate, and most of them will be poor businessmen, with all the problems which follow from that (credit control, for starters
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Incidentally, how can you tell dyslexia rather than just somebody who cannot write (a serious Q)?
One reason is that, in most walks of business/life, the most desirable buyers are educated people who definitely do spot bad grammar and judge it accordingly. That's why when you are starting a business, setting up a very clean corporate image helps dramatically in selecting a high quality customer base. If your promotional material is badly written, you have cut off both of your legs before you even started, and the only customers you will pick up will be people who are similarly illiterate, and most of them will be poor businessmen, with all the problems which follow from that (credit control, for starters
).Incidentally, how can you tell dyslexia rather than just somebody who cannot write (a serious Q)?
