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Could someone please advise why spelling or grammatical errors in an advertisement should automatically point to the fact that it must be a scam?
Why should an engineer have to be able to spell correctly before being considered competent enough to be let loose with a spanner?
Why should self maintenance automatically be sub standard?
This whole thread is questioning someones integrity based on his spelling ability.
Apart from the legalities of CofA, why not? what kind of supermen are required to fit an engine? I'm not an aircraft engineer, I have no cerstifficit to say I'm anything, but I can (could) certainly remove, strip, re-build & refit an engine from a PA28. Not sure about the Space Shuttle, I'd have to have a look first.
PS. Bad spelling Jock, It's not a aircraft it's an aircraft.
Why should an engineer have to be able to spell correctly before being considered competent enough to be let loose with a spanner?
Why should self maintenance automatically be sub standard?
This whole thread is questioning someones integrity based on his spelling ability.
When they say the engine was fitted new by themselves, I doubt they mean they actually did it as private individuals.
PS. Bad spelling Jock, It's not a aircraft it's an aircraft.
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Well, avoiding any of the usual righteous comments, let's just say it is illegal to DIY-change an engine on a certified aircraft.
If you did that, you better not be trying to flog the thing openly. Anybody who is not a complete mug will look at the maintenance record and will spot a lack of a maintenance company signoff on the job.
The result is an aircraft which is worthless until somebody spends some money straightening out the paperwork.
I know changing an engine is not hard. I've seen mine done twice. But somebody who is less than clued up might bend around the oil hoses a bit too much, for example, so they split a few hundred hours later. Anyway, hoses are usually mandatory-replacement at engine replacement/overhaul. Were they changed also?
If you did that, you better not be trying to flog the thing openly. Anybody who is not a complete mug will look at the maintenance record and will spot a lack of a maintenance company signoff on the job.
The result is an aircraft which is worthless until somebody spends some money straightening out the paperwork.
I know changing an engine is not hard. I've seen mine done twice. But somebody who is less than clued up might bend around the oil hoses a bit too much, for example, so they split a few hundred hours later. Anyway, hoses are usually mandatory-replacement at engine replacement/overhaul. Were they changed also?
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But somebody who is less than clued up might bend around the oil hoses a bit too much, for example, so they split a few hundred hours later. Anyway, hoses are usually mandatory-replacement at engine replacement/overhaul. Were they changed also?
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Its not illegal to change an engine DIY and get it signed off afterwards by a suitably qualified person.
The home builts do it all the time.
Its on a permit there are no issues if they did change it themselves and then got a sign off afterwards.
And to be honest if they had done it themselves it would be a big tick in my book because its obviously had someone that is that way inclined giving it TLC. More so than if it was getting put into a shop only when required.
The home builts do it all the time.
Its on a permit there are no issues if they did change it themselves and then got a sign off afterwards.
And to be honest if they had done it themselves it would be a big tick in my book because its obviously had someone that is that way inclined giving it TLC. More so than if it was getting put into a shop only when required.
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And to be honest if they had done it themselves it would be a big tick in my book because its obviously had someone that is that way inclined giving it TLC. More so than if it was getting put into a shop only when required.
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Its on a permit
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The PA28-180 is not on a permit, MJ.
Like it or not, you do have to use a MO to do stuff like changing engines
Regards actual quality of work, yes this varies greatly, which is partly why I do my own 50hr services (it also saves me a huge amount of money). Usually I do them with an A&P/IA friend of mine, not least because some of it is a 2-person job, but I could do them on my own and have done so if I can get help with the cowlings.
Changing an engine is a fair size job. It needs a crane, and practically speaking needs a hangar, and this makes it out of reach of the vast majority of aircraft owners because they are not allowed to do work in their hangar.
Also, engines are often delivered without the accessories attached (or with them packed loose). This is more stuff you have to do correctly.
Anyway, we are picking over a silly advert written by a person with poor grammar, and I very much doubt he or his fellow pilots actually changed the engine themselves
Like it or not, you do have to use a MO to do stuff like changing engines
Regards actual quality of work, yes this varies greatly, which is partly why I do my own 50hr services (it also saves me a huge amount of money). Usually I do them with an A&P/IA friend of mine, not least because some of it is a 2-person job, but I could do them on my own and have done so if I can get help with the cowlings.
Changing an engine is a fair size job. It needs a crane, and practically speaking needs a hangar, and this makes it out of reach of the vast majority of aircraft owners because they are not allowed to do work in their hangar.
Also, engines are often delivered without the accessories attached (or with them packed loose). This is more stuff you have to do correctly.
Anyway, we are picking over a silly advert written by a person with poor grammar, and I very much doubt he or his fellow pilots actually changed the engine themselves
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It doesn't matter it only really matters on what qualification the engineer has that signs it off.
I have changed brake packs and tyres on my commercial type because the ginger had hurt his hand. I did all the grunt work and he gave helpful tips and drank tea and signed the tech log after abusing my handy work with locking wire.
And alot of engines changed in maint organisations will be changed by a none licensed fitter then it will be inspected by a licensed engineer then a dupe inspection done by another.
But I do take your point bingo about it can't be a permit type. On G-INFO its down as a EASA CofA expiring the end of this month.
I have changed brake packs and tyres on my commercial type because the ginger had hurt his hand. I did all the grunt work and he gave helpful tips and drank tea and signed the tech log after abusing my handy work with locking wire.
And alot of engines changed in maint organisations will be changed by a none licensed fitter then it will be inspected by a licensed engineer then a dupe inspection done by another.
But I do take your point bingo about it can't be a permit type. On G-INFO its down as a EASA CofA expiring the end of this month.
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And conversely I have a Mensa-level IQ and an Oxford degree, and I can barely change my own tyres and certainly shouldn't be let loose trying to do anything technical to an aircraft...
You see the person involved is just the opposite. He is a current EASA 145 licensed engineer, he also works on and flies PFA metal/plastic/wood aircraft and is a PFA (okay LAA if you must) inspector of same and has been for many decades. Very nice guy.
IO540, the location for that aeroplane is indeed City Airport Manchester Barton. Where fuel went up by 9 ppl last week to pay the footballers' wages, now £2.27 inc. VAT for one litre Avgas. Barton is still maintenance free since July 31st when the last lease holder pulled out, as it was not commercially viable. The latest rumour indicates that the organisation interested in taking it on, has now had a major re-think.
And to be honest if they had done it themselves it would be a big tick in my book because its obviously had someone that is that way inclined giving it TLC.
Anyway, we are picking over a silly advert written by a person with poor grammar, and I very much doubt he or his fellow pilots actually changed the engine themselves
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If you are setting up a new MO you need a climate controlled insulated hangar or some such. A new 145 hangar is a sight to be seen.
I actually feel a bit guilty, I highlighted an ad, and the poor bloke who is obviously very skilled in his field has got a right slating for something that I think we both have a common issue with.
I wish that a I could afford it, bet she is a lovely aircraft even with a few cosmetic details outstanding.
I actually feel a bit guilty, I highlighted an ad, and the poor bloke who is obviously very skilled in his field has got a right slating for something that I think we both have a common issue with.
I wish that a I could afford it, bet she is a lovely aircraft even with a few cosmetic details outstanding.
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Same man has now increased his bid to £18,500 and this seems to be above the reserve. When he/her gets it he might like to put a posting on here - unless he already has done so!
We shall know in a day's time.
We shall know in a day's time.
I'd look at the spelling and presume that English wasn't his first language, that's all.
On these pages at least, several non-native English speakers have shown great effort and diligence in writing English properly - even if it was perhaps only to earn their level 6 LPE
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The previous post is spot on. One of my Polish ex-employees, whose written and spoken English was almost faultless, used to show me memos from her 'superior' (a spotty ignorant yoof) which were so badly written as to be as incomprehensible to me as they were to her.
Like many foreigners, she took pride in her English, her appearance, her work, and everything she did, whereas he just messed and lied his way through his working day. He has been on the dole and housing benefit, a burden on the public exchequer, for the last 3 years, whereas she is now running a succesful small business.
Like many foreigners, she took pride in her English, her appearance, her work, and everything she did, whereas he just messed and lied his way through his working day. He has been on the dole and housing benefit, a burden on the public exchequer, for the last 3 years, whereas she is now running a succesful small business.
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I have to say that the 'engineering knowledge' displayed in many of the postings here rarely fails to amuse me. With the complete and utter nonsense which some people trot out they thoroughly deserve to be financially raped by the less scruptulous Part M companies that thrive in the UK.
Having completed a double engine swap in a day ( two aircraft, swapping from one to the other) and flying both the next day after sorting a couple of non standard mods and the paperwork, I can only say that sometimes less is a lot more................. and some basi spanner skills are all that is required - oh and actually reading the manuals, rather than doing what you did on the last one.....
Having completed a double engine swap in a day ( two aircraft, swapping from one to the other) and flying both the next day after sorting a couple of non standard mods and the paperwork, I can only say that sometimes less is a lot more................. and some basi spanner skills are all that is required - oh and actually reading the manuals, rather than doing what you did on the last one.....