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Old 2nd Oct 2011, 12:04
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piper pa-28-180 | eBay

I really do feel for the poor chap.
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Here is the advert:

piper pa-28-180

Item condition:UsedTime left:2d 22h (05 Oct, 201111:44:47 BST)Current bid:£10,099.00 41 Bds

Reserve pricenot met

piper pa-28-180


Here we have a great opertunatity if you want to do some flying or form a group.This is our Piper PA-28-180 Challenger 1973 with 4500 hrs weve own the aircraft for nearly 20 years The engine witch was fitted new by ourselves has 1800 hrs approx but is over 12 years old running perectly with no issues. Prop was new a few years ago because it was below limits on overhaul. arc till 27/10/2011 has been stripped and painted several years ago. Avionics basic Narco mk12D with glide slope, king kx175B, Garmin GPS 100, KR 87 ADF (not working,) Auto pilot, electric trim, No toe brakes. No internal corrosion, a few spots externally. Upholstry is tatty. The wing walk panel has cracks and will need to be replaced for next arc renewal this is not uncommon and will be reflected in final price .Reason for sale, our local airfield has been taken over by Peel Holdings (bastards) who are pricing everybody out our local maint org has been priced off the airfield making it inpracticable to operate any more so sadly this is the end So come and get a bargain Low start and a unreasonably low reserve test flights welcome if you put fuel in, although I suggest you bring your own fuel because Peel Holdings avgas is delivered in gold plated tankers driven by 200 grand a week foot ballers on there days off





Registration Details

Mark:G-BBPY Current Reg. Date:08/01/1992
Previous ID:NEW USA De-Reg. Date:
Status:Registered To:

Select this link to view the Full Registration History of this aircraft

Aircraft Details

Manufacturer:PIPER AIRCRAFT CORPORATION
Type:PIPER PA-28-180
Serial No.:28-7305590
ICAO 24 bit aircraft address:Binary: 0100_00_000_001_10_1100001001
Hex: 401B09
Octal: 20015411

Popular Name:CHEROKEE
Generic Name:PA28
Aircraft Class:FIXED-WING LANDPLANE
EASA Category:CS-23E: Normal and Utility Category Aeroplane
Engines (Propellers):1: 1 x LYCOMING O-360-A4A ( SENSENICH 76EM8S5-0-60 )


MTOW:1111kg Total Hours:4354 at 31/12/2009
Year Built:1973
CofA / PermitASA Certificate of Airworthiness Validity Expiry:27/10/2011
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What does the spelling tell you?
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Tells me that when he wrote it he was probably angry, and I can't say I blame him, he may not be the best at spelling on Ebay, so what!
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The seller obviously has a grudge with Peel Holdings...

cheers,
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Leaving aside the grudge with the airfield owners, I am wondering how someone with such a limited grasp of written English can afford a plane?

This is not a list of "typo" mistakes, it's a primary school level phonetic cock up on the spelling front.


Perhaps he's a Pikey and is now screwed because Peel Holdings don't take cash.

Just a thought.
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I suspect that the writer is dyslexic rather than illiterate, I have a dyslexic friend whose uncorrected English is like that, despite being intelligent and quite well educated.

Also, sadly perhaps, there is often no link between an ability to write English properly and the accumulation of wealth.
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I know the seller and he is indeed an intelligent and delightful chap. I can only agree with his feelings for Peel, and admire his wit, if not his English, in expressing them so amusingly.
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Very amyoozing and well putt.
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I defy anyone to find a word in the following which is wrongly spelt!

Eye have a plain witch is fore sail. All though it is a bit the worse four where, it flies grate and wood bee a good bye for sum one who kneads a cheep plain to go flying inn at weak ends.
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Ahhh nobody worried about all the 'self' maintenance??? are any of that syndicate LAME's???
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Not really, some of the PFA lot over here can give the pro engineers a run for there money on quality and knowledge.

Reading the advert again I can spot the spelling mistakes, didn't the first time. Maybe the seller is also a degree qualified dyslexic Mechanical Engineer who has been taking stuff to pieces and putting it back together since he was a nipper like myself.

Doing a 50 hour isn't mensa material and neither is doing an engine change to someone that has an engineers head on them. Crap spelling and grammar in my experence doesn't effect the quality of the job at all. None of the machinery I have worked on be it earth mover, tank, lorry, aircraft, car, pumps, compressors or for that matter washing machines have suffered due to my crap spelling and grammar. Although to be fair some of it has suffered getting beaten into submission with a sodding great hammer or a 6ft lever bar.
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What does the spelling tell you?
What does your post say about you?
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What does the spelling tell you?
What does your post say about you?
I'm not sure what funfly was implying but my initial thought was that it may be a scam. Certainly spelling and grammar, while not necessarily an indicator of someone's intelligence, are often one of the signs of some kind of scam.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting the ad is a scam. I'm merely saying that was my initial thought. I'm quite sure my initial thought was wrong though.
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Old 2nd Oct 2011, 21:38
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I've always wondered about this dyslexia thing. Can't help remembering the heyday of usenet, when 60% of one country's contributors attributed their poor spelling to the same inconveniency.

I can imagine certain people cannot detect certain (types of) spelling errors. The degree of improvement they can achieve by relatively simple means such as spelling checkers has never been clear to me.
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Old 3rd Oct 2011, 11:56
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The scams, in my view, tend to have slightly different types of mistakes such as missing articles (a common mistake for speakers of Slavic or some East Asian languages, where they don't have any).

The question here being if you're selling such an expensive item, why you wouldn't get someone to proof read it for you?
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The question here being if you're selling such an expensive item, why you wouldn't get someone to proof read it for you?
I have to agree with that.

Also I find it hard to understand how adult literacy can be so poor. The people presumably never read books, newspapers, or any other form of printed material. Even a totally trash novel will be 99.99% grammatically correct. Even the Sunday Sport is.

The scams, in my view, tend to have slightly different types of mistakes such as missing articles (a common mistake for speakers of Slavic or some East Asian languages, where they don't have any).
You might be suprised. I have seen some pretty clever scams. There was one going around for a TB20 G-HOOD, where the seller was asking for a ~ £10k deposit to view the aircraft. It so happens that lots of people ask me for views on various TB20s and I know of several people who nearly fell for this one, but fortunately all walked away after some intractable correspondence with the "seller".

However I don't think this Ebay advert is a scam.

BTW, what airport are they referring to? How could an engineering company be priced off it? Normally, they have a lease of some sort.
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The mentions of Peel Holdings and the location of the aeroplane as Manchester would seem to imply Barton.
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Doing a 50 hour isn't mensa material and neither is doing an engine change to someone that has an engineers head on them. Crap spelling and grammar in my experence doesn't effect the quality of the job at all. None of the machinery I have worked on be it earth mover, tank, lorry, aircraft, car, pumps, compressors or for that matter washing machines have suffered due to my crap spelling and grammar. Although to be fair some of it has suffered getting beaten into submission with a sodding great hammer or a 6ft lever bar.
And conversely I have a Mensa-level IQ and an Oxford degree, and I can barely change my own tyres and certainly shouldn't be let loose trying to do anything technical to an aircraft...
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When they say the engine was fitted new by themselves, I doubt they mean they actually did it as private individuals.
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