Any chance to fly in Ireland on a UK NPPL (A)?

[Deeday]

Does anyone know if the UK NPPL (A) is recognised at all in the RoI?
jonkil, in this post, four years ago, you said that it is not: has anything changed since then, if you know?

Thanks in advance to anyone who can share any info.

[BEagle]

A NPPL SSEA Class Rating is currently restricted to airspace of the UK, Isle of Man and (with conditions), Channel Islands.

It is not valid in Eire.

[Ryan5252]

Yes you can (In theory). You will need special permission from the IAA and be prepared to jump through alot of hoops. The IAA are making it as difficult as possible to allow anyone to fly with an NPPL. More info over on FlyingInIreland • Index page

[dublinpilot]

Ryan are you sure that's true for a NPPL (A)? I know what you're saying is true for an NPPL (M) but didn't think such a validation was possible with the non microlight version of the NPPL.

dp

[Ryan5252]

dp, I know the problems ongoing with the NPPL(M) saga but as far as i'm aware concessions have been made for the N(A) also. A friend got an exemption last August for a flight to EIDL on a NPPL(A) after some hoop jumping with the IAA. Not sure if this indicates a common practice by the IAA or, more likely, an error on their part but it has been done. I've heard of others going through on it also, but I have heard more often than not of others just giving up!

[S-Works]

I would suggest Beagle as Chairman of the NPPL Group might just know a little more about where it is valid than others?

[ifitaintboeing]

Patience

We have been working on obtaining agreement with the IAA, amongst others. How does the song go...?

"It's gonna take a little time....."

...Beagle as Chairman of the NPPL Group...

Suggest you check Beagle's position, bose-x - I could "steer" you in the right direction if you like.

ifitaint...

[S-Works]

LOL, yeah I forgot the ex bit. But you get the drift!!

[Deeday]

Thanks ifitaintboeing; good to hear that it's more a matter of 'when' rather than 'if' (or so I hope).

jonkil has recently posted on FlyingInIreland (thanks Ryan5252), saying that "The UK NPPL(A) cannot be used or validated here, period". Not much to add then, for now...

[hum]

Just published on IAA website - UK NPPL now valid in Ireland

In order to facilitate short-term visits, not to accommodate pilots that are resident in the State, Ireland will accept the use of a UK issued NPPL with a Simple Single Engine Aeroplane (SSEA), Self Launching Motor Glider (SLMG), or Microlight Class Rating for use in Ireland which meet the following criteria:

The licence holder is not a resident of Ireland; (Proof of residency such as a valid passport. UK DVLA drivers licence or National Insurance Certificate must be provided to the Irish Aviation Authority upon demand.)
The licence and ratings are valid for use in the UK;
The pilot holds the appropriate medical certification for the licence held;
The pilot has at least 50 hours experience in flying aircraft covered by the licence; (evidence of which must be provided to the Irish Aviation Authority upon demand or within 10 working days of being requested.)
The pilot is restricted to operation in Class G airspace unless in possession of a valid radio telephony rating and an English Language Proficiency of 4 or higher endorsed on the licence;
The licence shall not be used for the purposes of commercial air transport, commercial operations or aerial work. Additional privileges of the licence such as flight instruction, testing or display authorisation may not be used.
The licence is restricted to operation only in accordance with daytime Visual Flight Rules.
Any conditions, limitations and restrictions applicable on the licence which exceed those listed here shall also be observed.
The pilot shall have all required documents available for inspection when operating in the Republic of Ireland including suitable photographic identification document
The pilot is familiar with, and adheres to, the requirements detailed in Irish Air Law. See GAM 05-10 for details on the potential differences.
The pilot shall report any aviation related accident or serious incident to the Air Accident Investigation Unit (Contact details can be found at Air Accident Investigation Unit) and also to the Air Accident Investigation Body of both the State of Issue of the licence holder and the State of Registry of the aircraft.

Holders of UK issued NPPLs who are resident in Ireland must comply with the requirements of GAM 06-10. Refer to Aeronautical Notice A19 for aircraft requirements.

The pilot must also comply with any other requirements in force by other agencies such as the Irish Customs and Revenue Service, the Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service, An Garda Síochána, the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine, etc.

It is hoped that this change combined with the recent changes to P19 will be welcomed by pilots wishing to visit Ireland from the UK.

[BEagle]

Please provide a link - I can find nothing about this on the Irish Aviation Authority website.

[7AC]

Try following through here.
FlyingInIreland • View topic - UK NPPLs now able to operate in Ireland without validation

[ak7274]

http://www.iaa.ie/library_download.jsp?libraryID=843

Hope this helps.

[BEagle]

Thanks all - I'll make sure this welcome news is promulgated on the NPPL website next week.

To be sure, to be sure.....

[mad_jock]

The level 4 English cert has been an issue according to some. You need a bit of paper with the level on it. The license doesn't cut the mustard.