Plane crash near Oxford Airport
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When I say facts I mean facts as to who the aircraft belonged to, not the cause of the accident.
Surely posting it could be OAA or Air Med or whoever only causes unnecessary worry for no reason.
Sorry if I was not clearer.
D6
Surely posting it could be OAA or Air Med or whoever only causes unnecessary worry for no reason.
Sorry if I was not clearer.
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Agreed!
:-)
PS Sky showing pic of plane totally burned out, some reports of glowing ball following the plane, perhaps burning debris still attached in some way?
Who has the weather at the time for Oxford? The pics seem to suggest more haze than fog with reasonable horizontal visibility, probably low freezing level
Agreed!
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PS Sky showing pic of plane totally burned out, some reports of glowing ball following the plane, perhaps burning debris still attached in some way?
Who has the weather at the time for Oxford? The pics seem to suggest more haze than fog with reasonable horizontal visibility, probably low freezing level
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Yes PLEASE DO NOT POST MISINFORMATION.
I work next door to Airmed and because I am on leave this week the first I knew of this incident was from reading this thread! One of our pilots also flies for them.
Spent a number of anxious minutes phoning around to check my friends and collegues are safe.
I'm not posting any extra information regarding this accident. Let us wait for the professionals to complete their report.
I work next door to Airmed and because I am on leave this week the first I knew of this incident was from reading this thread! One of our pilots also flies for them.
Spent a number of anxious minutes phoning around to check my friends and collegues are safe.
I'm not posting any extra information regarding this accident. Let us wait for the professionals to complete their report.
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Its not just here that misinformation is going out! The television reaching millions are reporting the aircraft as a twin engined JET not a Navajo.
I hope its not another pilot I know.
Pace
I hope its not another pilot I know.
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I used to work for Airmed too. They are a safe operator.
All Air Taxi companies are operating in a very demanding market at the present time, what they don't need is to be fielding questions from concerned parties regarding how safe their operation is. Presumably that's why Airmed moved quickly to clarify their position on this thread. It's bad enough that a PA31 ( if that's what it was ) was involved at all. A lot of organisations and people come to PPRuNe as the oracle of information. Please be careful.
All Air Taxi companies are operating in a very demanding market at the present time, what they don't need is to be fielding questions from concerned parties regarding how safe their operation is. Presumably that's why Airmed moved quickly to clarify their position on this thread. It's bad enough that a PA31 ( if that's what it was ) was involved at all. A lot of organisations and people come to PPRuNe as the oracle of information. Please be careful.
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Although I’m following this thread with interest, the press and various outside speculators are putting their big feet in before they know the proper facts.
Pace it could well be a Piper Cheiftan which is a Navajo fitted with turbines, your jet (as the press would say) the aircraft basic generic is referred to as Navajo.
So let’s not start making all sorts of assumptions until we are given some proper facts from the aviation professionals.
It’s a sad day to lose yet two more of our colleagues. RIP.
Condolences to all closely concerned.
Pace it could well be a Piper Cheiftan which is a Navajo fitted with turbines, your jet (as the press would say) the aircraft basic generic is referred to as Navajo.
So let’s not start making all sorts of assumptions until we are given some proper facts from the aviation professionals.
It’s a sad day to lose yet two more of our colleagues. RIP.
Condolences to all closely concerned.
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The pic' on the BBC website now show's the wreckage and the beginning of the reg' on the tail, it starts N9.
The report goes on to state that the aircraft has been present for a while due to the weather so it MAY be N95RS
RIP to those involved
FC
The report goes on to state that the aircraft has been present for a while due to the weather so it MAY be N95RS
RIP to those involved
FC
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Best you get your I-Spy book out and read it again - a Cheyenne is basically a turbine Navajo. A Chieftan is a stretched Navajo with more powerful engines. That's what my copy says. As you say, best not to make assumptions without knowing the facts...
Very sad for all those involved.
Best you get your I-Spy book out and read it again - a Cheyenne is basically a turbine Navajo. A Chieftan is a stretched Navajo with more powerful engines. That's what my copy says. As you say, best not to make assumptions without knowing the facts...
Very sad for all those involved.
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Smarthawke, Thank you for your correction.
You’re right it would be the Cheyenne that I meant to refer to.
Even so I was trying to point out how easily terms can be misunderstood, haven't I been an excellent example here, but I think most got the gist of my message.
The burnt out pictures now showing the tailplane are certainly of the Navajo generic, I won’t commit myself any further on the exact model now, one gaff is enough.
Sad day.
You’re right it would be the Cheyenne that I meant to refer to.
Even so I was trying to point out how easily terms can be misunderstood, haven't I been an excellent example here, but I think most got the gist of my message.
The burnt out pictures now showing the tailplane are certainly of the Navajo generic, I won’t commit myself any further on the exact model now, one gaff is enough.
Sad day.
witness
For what it is worth Witness comment
PLANE CRASH: More witnesses describe crash (From Witney Gazette)
He said: "It was clear skies but he was circling round and round then I heard a pop."
But images on website depict a grey sky.
Mickjoebill
PLANE CRASH: More witnesses describe crash (From Witney Gazette)
He said: "It was clear skies but he was circling round and round then I heard a pop."
But images on website depict a grey sky.
Mickjoebill
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The METARs posted by Daw Yamper (post 27) speak volumes.
What cat ILS at TK? VN? Radar coverage?
Regardless of what may have gone wrong, would you have got airborne in those conditions in a light twin?
Very sad and senseless waste of life. RIP!
http://www.nats-uk.ead-it.com/aip/cu...GTK_8-2_en.pdf
What cat ILS at TK? VN? Radar coverage?
Regardless of what may have gone wrong, would you have got airborne in those conditions in a light twin?
Very sad and senseless waste of life. RIP!
http://www.nats-uk.ead-it.com/aip/cu...GTK_8-2_en.pdf
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Originally Posted by Opsdog
Regardless of what may have gone wrong, would you have got airborne in those conditions in a light twin?
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The METARs posted by Daw Yamper (post 27) speak volumes.
What cat ILS at TK? VN? Radar coverage?
Regardless of what may have gone wrong, would you have got airborne in those conditions in a light twin?
Very sad and senseless waste of life. RIP!
http://www.nats-uk.ead-it.com/aip/cu...GTK_8-2_en.pdf
What cat ILS at TK? VN? Radar coverage?
Regardless of what may have gone wrong, would you have got airborne in those conditions in a light twin?
Very sad and senseless waste of life. RIP!
http://www.nats-uk.ead-it.com/aip/cu...GTK_8-2_en.pdf
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Indeed it seems N95RS may have been the one...
ASN Aircraft accident 15-JAN-2010 Piper PA-31P-425 Pressurized Navajo N95RS
PA31-P (so yes pressurised)
Is anyone familiar with IFR departure clearances out of EGTK? Being over Bladon would require a right turn (as per a VFR departure above 750ft QFE) NW bound. Are you typically on a radar vectored departure?
ASN Aircraft accident 15-JAN-2010 Piper PA-31P-425 Pressurized Navajo N95RS
PA31-P (so yes pressurised)
Is anyone familiar with IFR departure clearances out of EGTK? Being over Bladon would require a right turn (as per a VFR departure above 750ft QFE) NW bound. Are you typically on a radar vectored departure?
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Yes, some of us have to for a living.
There are times not too depart, even if this was not one of them.