Light aircraft down in Dundee
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OK guys just finished a morning shift on the good old Scottish FIR sector.....only 2 pages to trawl through today!!
Dr John Watson...it was my pleasure to react the way I did on Easter Sunday...to be honest I really didnt think you would make it back and therefore a great comfort to me to know Rescue 177 was well on its way to your last position!!
Mad Jock.....yes after all the ATSOCA changes I am still a lowly Area FISO but its a job I love so much as you can probably tell when we speak on the R/T.
As for biscuits anything with dark Chocolate and caramel would be fine....that said one of my fine young lady customers and a regular on here has just reminded me that the last time she left a box of Roses after I invited her club for a visit I scoffed the lot myself.....sorry Colette!! but then again I thought they were all for me??
Pace........OK no hard feelings and thanks for the nice apology...I love my job and the guys and girls I work with so get annoyed when any one tries to put them down........next time you are flying north come up on 119.875 and say hello...if you ever night stop with the coporate jet let me know and I will buy you a beer......
Dr John Watson...it was my pleasure to react the way I did on Easter Sunday...to be honest I really didnt think you would make it back and therefore a great comfort to me to know Rescue 177 was well on its way to your last position!!
Mad Jock.....yes after all the ATSOCA changes I am still a lowly Area FISO but its a job I love so much as you can probably tell when we speak on the R/T.
As for biscuits anything with dark Chocolate and caramel would be fine....that said one of my fine young lady customers and a regular on here has just reminded me that the last time she left a box of Roses after I invited her club for a visit I scoffed the lot myself.....sorry Colette!! but then again I thought they were all for me??
Pace........OK no hard feelings and thanks for the nice apology...I love my job and the guys and girls I work with so get annoyed when any one tries to put them down........next time you are flying north come up on 119.875 and say hello...if you ever night stop with the coporate jet let me know and I will buy you a beer......
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"Biggles" claimed a couple of times in these pages that his GPS would exonerate him. Does anyone know if the CTsw's GPS can remember what it did before it was switched off?
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Most CTSWs do not come with a intergated GPS. Most have an Airgizmos docking station on the panel which allows a standard Garmin 196/296/396/496 etc to be carried.
The Garmins can 'memorise' track/altitude data.
I will try and post a photo later.
The 'Group A' version of the CTSW - the CTLS, can come with the above arrangement or a perm fitted Garmin 695, which can be coupled to the auto pilot.
The Garmins can 'memorise' track/altitude data.
I will try and post a photo later.
The 'Group A' version of the CTSW - the CTLS, can come with the above arrangement or a perm fitted Garmin 695, which can be coupled to the auto pilot.
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fisbangwallop
one of the main things I learned from the engine going pop was at 1800lbs AUW a cherokee 140 will still maintain height with three clyinders working if throttled back (to cut down on vibration) and trimmed out. Ground speed is not impressive but it was sufficient. You are not the only one who thought I wouldn't make it back but we were both wrong. A definate brown trouser experience.
How does a supply of caramel wafers/logs sound?
one of the main things I learned from the engine going pop was at 1800lbs AUW a cherokee 140 will still maintain height with three clyinders working if throttled back (to cut down on vibration) and trimmed out. Ground speed is not impressive but it was sufficient. You are not the only one who thought I wouldn't make it back but we were both wrong. A definate brown trouser experience.
How does a supply of caramel wafers/logs sound?
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Hey Dr Watson...well I was glad to all went well....as for Caramel wafers thanks for the offer but really no need.......thats why I am here to offer the service that I do.
One thing that struck me about that incident I think at first you had picked a field then once you found you could maintain alltitude decided to creep back to PG leaving your nice safe field behind!!.......on landing I know you had little oil left so I guess a landing on the A80 may not have been so nice!! I guess though always a very difficult decision to make...the main thing is a good outcome and all safe and well. do you know the airtraffiker at Strathaven with the Kit Fox...PM is a great pal of mine and keeps promising me a flight one day....as yet I have not felt brave enough!!!
Best wishes to you.
One thing that struck me about that incident I think at first you had picked a field then once you found you could maintain alltitude decided to creep back to PG leaving your nice safe field behind!!.......on landing I know you had little oil left so I guess a landing on the A80 may not have been so nice!! I guess though always a very difficult decision to make...the main thing is a good outcome and all safe and well. do you know the airtraffiker at Strathaven with the Kit Fox...PM is a great pal of mine and keeps promising me a flight one day....as yet I have not felt brave enough!!!
Best wishes to you.
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Pace........OK no hard feelings and thanks for the nice apology...I love my job and the guys and girls I work with so get annoyed when any one tries to put them down........next time you are flying north come up on 119.875 and say hello...if you ever night stop with the coporate jet let me know and I will buy you a beer......
Good we are best of pals and of course i would love to pop in and see you all sometime......will take you up on the beer but my treat
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fisbangwallop,
the "airtraficker" keeps his kitfox behind my Cherokee at Strathaven. If you want a flight ( in a real aeroplane) "e" mail me and we can arrange a flight anytime that suits you. Re picking a field -that believe it or not was not an issue.I was taught to fly by Yankee Mike Anderson at Cumbernauld with Merlin Flying club of unfond memory in the late 1990's - so I had done so many PFL's in that area I knew the place of by heart. On reflection if this happened again I would be in a position to do it better. What was going through my mind was a friend had a similar occurance some years before in an Arrow and had to return to Edinburgh in IMC. He just made it - the engine seized on approach and he got charged £3,500 for recovery services!! Anyway let me know if you want to fly
the "airtraficker" keeps his kitfox behind my Cherokee at Strathaven. If you want a flight ( in a real aeroplane) "e" mail me and we can arrange a flight anytime that suits you. Re picking a field -that believe it or not was not an issue.I was taught to fly by Yankee Mike Anderson at Cumbernauld with Merlin Flying club of unfond memory in the late 1990's - so I had done so many PFL's in that area I knew the place of by heart. On reflection if this happened again I would be in a position to do it better. What was going through my mind was a friend had a similar occurance some years before in an Arrow and had to return to Edinburgh in IMC. He just made it - the engine seized on approach and he got charged £3,500 for recovery services!! Anyway let me know if you want to fly
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T18:
Perhaps the IR/IMC holder who would prefer to have the option of flying Perth to Tiree at FL100 on more than the tiny number of days a year when it might be possible in a VFR-only aircraft.
Get it and others like it certified for IMC and it becomes a hugely more attractive aircraft.
NS
Who would prefer to fly a 25 year old spamcan?
Get it and others like it certified for IMC and it becomes a hugely more attractive aircraft.
NS
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Dr JW:
Glasgow has been bought a brand new radar to get rid of all the radar returns from the new wind farm south of the airport.
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The effects of all these wind farms of the radar returns was not comforting
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No fisbangwallop, the chocs left were not all for you and I had rather hoped your poor work colleague who was busy handling two Pan calls at the same time (and after an earlier Mayday call too) would maybe have been allowed a couple of them before they were all scoffed!!
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Dr John...thanks for that offer will take you up on that one day....as for a visit no problem at all, I will be in touch to arrange and please please leave the chocs at home as I may do a Colette on you!!
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Can we all come and visit if we promise to bring choccy biscuits? Even if we are flying fifty year old taildraggers that are VFR only? I can do FL 100, more if I dig out the portable oxy bottle and buy a new mask
Maybe Biggles could be there to tell us all how to do it? In his jimjams for preference of course
Maybe Biggles could be there to tell us all how to do it? In his jimjams for preference of course
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Sounds good to me....maybe I will arrange a "top of the tree" flyin....visit Atlantic House then a local hostelry in Prestwick before a night in "The Club too far" in Ayr.....a night in a local hotel to recover then all fly home the next day....Ohhhhhh wat have i said......seems the last few pages of this thread have been hijacked by ATC...
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"Scottish we can accept that clearance"
Haven't had a PIK bash in years.
well we had sort of done to death that the guy is a prat and I for one was getting quite depressed that these sort of antics are going on.
NOTAM: All pilots who try and keep up drinking with 10w, fisbang and the other ATCO's at scottish it can be very messy and makes your kidneys hurt the next day.
Haven't had a PIK bash in years.
seems the last few pages of this thread have been hijacked by ATC
NOTAM: All pilots who try and keep up drinking with 10w, fisbang and the other ATCO's at scottish it can be very messy and makes your kidneys hurt the next day.
Crash One wrote:
I have no disagreement with most of the above, and, as many on here know full well, the very last thing that I would do is start any sort of anti-microlight feeling.
I do think we need to consider the true limitations that applied to this flight though, and not just assume that they were the same as most other GA flights, as they were not. I was making the very valid point that the limitations for a microlight, particularly key issues like licence revalidation, medical requirements and minimum visibility under certain conditions, are different from those appertaining to other licence holders.
VP
Here we go again!
As far as I am aware microlights are allowed in class D.
Permit a/c are allowed in class D. And since recently, over built up settlements.
VFR was complied with.
VMC was complied with.
NPPL daytime only was complied with.
UK airspace? does the Hieland Republic of Jockistan constitute UK?
Is there anything else that I've missed?
As far as I am aware microlights are allowed in class D.
Permit a/c are allowed in class D. And since recently, over built up settlements.
VFR was complied with.
VMC was complied with.
NPPL daytime only was complied with.
UK airspace? does the Hieland Republic of Jockistan constitute UK?
Is there anything else that I've missed?
I do think we need to consider the true limitations that applied to this flight though, and not just assume that they were the same as most other GA flights, as they were not. I was making the very valid point that the limitations for a microlight, particularly key issues like licence revalidation, medical requirements and minimum visibility under certain conditions, are different from those appertaining to other licence holders.
VP