Flying in the USA?
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Just be aware that if someone on the ground answers and tells you the weather, it may or may not be correct!!!
"Have the weather" is the standard R/T phrase to let a tower know you've heard the AWOS. At an uncontrolled field you use it to determine runway in use, and the circuit direction for each runway is listed in the A/FD, the little green book that the FAA publishes every 56 days (I believe) and is a must to have.
Joining an uncontrolled field is as simple as "Sebastian traffic, Cadet 250FT, 10 miles west with the weather, 3000 feet, inbound to land 09, Sebastian".
At Sebastian, incidentally, the AWOS transmits on the CTAF frequency after clicking your mike something like three times. And most AWOSes have an associated telephone number as well which you can use to get the weather at your destination before you set off.
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Certainly there are some airspace challenges around Orlando, and at a major controlled field you burn up some hobbs time getting off the ground.
On RT, just remember that enroute, no one cares where you left from, only where you are going. Keep the transmits short, only the required info, if you go into the long explanations you hear from guys transiting in UK, you are going to really piss off some controllers. Once the controller shortens your call sign from Cessna 172AT to Cessna 2AT, that is it, just use the short version.
If you don't know or don't want to explain exactly where you are going, say out of Sanford, just tell them VFR northbound and initial altitude when you call clearance or ground. And the uncontrolled fields, Unicom, they don't want to tell you much due to liability, so don't expect much info from whoever is there, you are free to pick your own entry and runway, but obviously use common sense and don't conflict. AWOS is about all you need and all you are going to get at uncontrolled fields. Just leave out anything that they don't need on your radio calls.
Oh, and lots of people use Sir when addressing controllers, certainly not a requirement and much different conotation that in the UK. We don't envision some AH with a castle.
On RT, just remember that enroute, no one cares where you left from, only where you are going. Keep the transmits short, only the required info, if you go into the long explanations you hear from guys transiting in UK, you are going to really piss off some controllers. Once the controller shortens your call sign from Cessna 172AT to Cessna 2AT, that is it, just use the short version.
If you don't know or don't want to explain exactly where you are going, say out of Sanford, just tell them VFR northbound and initial altitude when you call clearance or ground. And the uncontrolled fields, Unicom, they don't want to tell you much due to liability, so don't expect much info from whoever is there, you are free to pick your own entry and runway, but obviously use common sense and don't conflict. AWOS is about all you need and all you are going to get at uncontrolled fields. Just leave out anything that they don't need on your radio calls.
Oh, and lots of people use Sir when addressing controllers, certainly not a requirement and much different conotation that in the UK. We don't envision some AH with a castle.
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"Have the weather" is the standard R/T phrase to let a tower know you've heard the AWOS.
No-one uses the "November" prefix in the radio call.
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"November" prefix
I'm doing my private now in US and sometimes I hear "november", sometimes I don't.Could anyone explain if it's mandatory or not?
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The rain in Spain stays mainly...
R/T in USA airspace is complicated for our friends from UK - correct.
Strange accent - correct too.
Fact is, when USA trained pilots fly in UK airspace, same thing.
USA pilots have to pay a lot of attention when on R/T in UK.
There are many different ways to pronounce the English language.
xxx
I remember the 1970s in UK...
What was "missed approach" or "go around" in USA, was called "overshoot" in UK.
Makes me smile... "final" is singular in USA, and plural "finals" in UK.
Correct. ATC in USA (callsign) does not require "NOVEMBER 12345".
If a Cessna, you are simply "Cessna 12345" in USA.
If you are C-GXYZ (Canada), expect to be called "Canadian Cessna XYZ"...
xxx
And USA, a QNH setting (the only kind they have) is only "Altimeter xxxx".
Ask a QNH in USA, and you will confuse that friendly controller.
xxx
Dont forget... they say POINT in USA, when you say DECIMAL.
Ground frequency is always 121-something... i.e. "Ground Point Niner" for 121.9.
xxx
I doubt they will ever ask you if you have "English Level 6" on your licence.
Boston Center knows that UK pilots got R/T training by William Shakespeare himself.
Or is it George Bernard Shaw...?
xxx
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Strange accent - correct too.
Fact is, when USA trained pilots fly in UK airspace, same thing.
USA pilots have to pay a lot of attention when on R/T in UK.
There are many different ways to pronounce the English language.
xxx
I remember the 1970s in UK...
What was "missed approach" or "go around" in USA, was called "overshoot" in UK.
Makes me smile... "final" is singular in USA, and plural "finals" in UK.
Correct. ATC in USA (callsign) does not require "NOVEMBER 12345".
If a Cessna, you are simply "Cessna 12345" in USA.
If you are C-GXYZ (Canada), expect to be called "Canadian Cessna XYZ"...
xxx
And USA, a QNH setting (the only kind they have) is only "Altimeter xxxx".
Ask a QNH in USA, and you will confuse that friendly controller.
xxx
Dont forget... they say POINT in USA, when you say DECIMAL.
Ground frequency is always 121-something... i.e. "Ground Point Niner" for 121.9.
xxx
I doubt they will ever ask you if you have "English Level 6" on your licence.
Boston Center knows that UK pilots got R/T training by William Shakespeare himself.
Or is it George Bernard Shaw...?
xxx
Happy contrails
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For those of you struggling with DUATS, try FltPlan.com Flight Planning for General Aviation. You don't need a licence/number etc, I don't think. Great site with all the info you need for planning a flight at no charge. Another favourite I use all the time is AirNav
For weather if you don't want to use fltplan or airnav, try ADDS weather. For general weather, not just aviation, try NOAA - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and put in the town name followed by the state. It is moderately accurate, and if anything usually verges on pessmistic for the 7 days it shows.
For weather if you don't want to use fltplan or airnav, try ADDS weather. For general weather, not just aviation, try NOAA - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and put in the town name followed by the state. It is moderately accurate, and if anything usually verges on pessmistic for the 7 days it shows.
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For those of you struggling with DUATS, try FltPlan.com Flight Planning for General Aviation. You don't need a licence/number etc, I don't think. Great site with all the info you need for planning a flight at no charge. Another favourite I use all the time is AirNav
) integrates DUATS data so a DUATS account is highly desirable.I agree, Airnav.com is a great resource, as is SkyVector.com
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The best weather tools for flight, albeit not a legal brief:
ADDS - Aviation Digital Data Service
And don't forget TFR checks, FAA has a site, but this one works quite a bit better:
http://map.aeroplanner.com/mapping/tfr.cfm?
ADDS - Aviation Digital Data Service
And don't forget TFR checks, FAA has a site, but this one works quite a bit better:
http://map.aeroplanner.com/mapping/tfr.cfm?
