Doncaster Sheffield - New Class D Airspace
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ShyTorque,
Thanks for that heads-up. It is displayed on the new 1:250,000 Scale chart though, although that particular map might be a little cumbersome for use in a cramped cockpit environment!
Thanks for that heads-up. It is displayed on the new 1:250,000 Scale chart though, although that particular map might be a little cumbersome for use in a cramped cockpit environment!
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Contact address for ATC at Doncaster radar
Hey guys/gals, well we are a little over 2 weeks into CAS, and on the whole i think my colleagues and I are pretty happy with the quality of airmanship being displayed by the GA pilots and the level of co-operation with ATC requests - a big thank you from us! 
As it stands at the moment, only 3 aircraft have had a delay in a zone transit. The initial request was turned down due to traffic patterns at the time, but once the traffic was clear, the transit request was granted.
If anyone has any issues, questions they would like answered, we have an e mail that you can send in your requests. We will endeavour to answer all reasonable requests, please be paitent though, we may be on days off or annual leave when you send in the request.
[email protected]
Thanks again for all your co-operation in making the CAS work, we are not here to keep you out, merely to keep EVERYONE safe.
As it stands at the moment, only 3 aircraft have had a delay in a zone transit. The initial request was turned down due to traffic patterns at the time, but once the traffic was clear, the transit request was granted.
If anyone has any issues, questions they would like answered, we have an e mail that you can send in your requests. We will endeavour to answer all reasonable requests, please be paitent though, we may be on days off or annual leave when you send in the request.
[email protected]
Thanks again for all your co-operation in making the CAS work, we are not here to keep you out, merely to keep EVERYONE safe.
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Scouseflyer,
Thanks, I already have one because I operate "oop north", in fact I carry the full set of UK 250,000 on board as well so it's not a problem for myself
The concern is that someone flying from the south to Netherthorpe or Gamston might get caught out here because EGCN is at the very top of that sheet (in fact over the top latitude line) and it's a trap to think a northern chart isn't needed.
Thanks, I already have one because I operate "oop north", in fact I carry the full set of UK 250,000 on board as well so it's not a problem for myself
The concern is that someone flying from the south to Netherthorpe or Gamston might get caught out here because EGCN is at the very top of that sheet (in fact over the top latitude line) and it's a trap to think a northern chart isn't needed.
Wow - if I had known all this existed on these forums ..........
I would not have started another on the "ATC Issues" forum with latest fun and games
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Transitted controlled airspace yesterday, flew right over Donny space port, they couldn't have been more helpful. They were jolly busy on the way back and it took a while to get my call in, but it didn't affect me, as I was on a local sight seeing bimble. Went back to see Sheffield to see what they had done with. I still think it is a terrible waste...
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I noticed that there is a letter of agreement between Doncaster and Netherthorpe that details two areas (to the north and east of the airfield) in which aircraft inbound to Netherthorpe do not need to get clearance from Doncaster as long as they keep below 2500ft in one and 2000ft in the other.
Is this published anywhere as I've been looking on the Doncaster website to try and find it and mark it on my chart but with no luck.
Is this published anywhere as I've been looking on the Doncaster website to try and find it and mark it on my chart but with no luck.
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If it's a letter of agreement it might not be published other than in the EGNF local regulations
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Apologies for resurrecting this thread, but I regularily check the chart updates on the CAA website, and there is no reference to this airspace in the list of updates.
Amendments for Southern England and Wales - Edition: 34, 10/04/2008 | Aeronautical Charts | Airspace Policy
And I notice the AIC is no longer listed on the AIS website. Does this mean it's no longer valid ? Or if it is (I presume it is), how would I find out about it if I didn't already know ? I check these two sites regularily, but if I'd been away for a few months and missed the AIC, how would I know ?
Amendments for Southern England and Wales - Edition: 34, 10/04/2008 | Aeronautical Charts | Airspace Policy
And I notice the AIC is no longer listed on the AIS website. Does this mean it's no longer valid ? Or if it is (I presume it is), how would I find out about it if I didn't already know ? I check these two sites regularily, but if I'd been away for a few months and missed the AIC, how would I know ?
Doncaster airspace last weekend.
There's a busy thread running on gliderpilot.net. A number of glider pilots reporting having transit requests turned down or delayed last weekend. The consensus seems to be that the controller was having trouble coping with a fair number of gliders and GA aircraft while waiting for the arrival of just one commercial airliner. The British Gliding Association people tasked with liaising with the CAA on these issues are going to follow it up via the official channels that are available to them.
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I remember doing my first solo nav around Doncaster last year. A 737 had declared an emergency and was diverting to Doncaster at the time. All GA traffic was asked to keep out of the zone apart from me using my student callsign.
There was some really interesting R/T going on.
There was some really interesting R/T going on.
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Did my skills test out of Netherthorpe weekend of the 17th. Not very much by way of clearances being offered to anyone. T'was busy though, was nearly at the Trent before I could get a word in edgewise to change to Waddington.
A perticularly amusing bit of R/T on that morning went something like:
Donny Radar: "G-XXXX please report your position"
G-XXXX "Altitude x thousand feet, er position is here!" (giggle over radio)
Donny Radar "Only I've just had Manchester on the phone and you're about to enter their controlled airspace...."
Well, I smiled. (and no, it wasn't me!)
JR
A perticularly amusing bit of R/T on that morning went something like:
Donny Radar: "G-XXXX please report your position"
G-XXXX "Altitude x thousand feet, er position is here!" (giggle over radio)
Donny Radar "Only I've just had Manchester on the phone and you're about to enter their controlled airspace...."
Well, I smiled. (and no, it wasn't me!)
JR
Last edited by JohnRayner; 29th Apr 2009 at 20:55.
