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Old 13th Jul 2012, 11:24
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...So in other words, either way it's going to cost a lot.

I sincerely hope someone with a bit of common sense is tasked with looking at it, and a thorough, honest, well-informed business case is drawn up. Too often lots of money is flung haphazardly at pointless projects seemingly without any serious studies as to judge their viability or usefulness. Sound familiar?

Would Skye be a vital airlink? Considering the Skye Bridge has been there since Smithy was a nipper, Inverness is only about 2.5 hours away on the A887 and a ferry from Uig to the Outer Hebrides is much cheaper than an air link and sails in most weathers, I seriously question the usefulness and indeed the overall point in a commercial air link. Fair do's if there's the demand for it then all the best with it, but I can't see that being the case. Most folk will take the car and go with CalMac over to Lochmaddy or Tarbert.

Keep it for what it is, a private airstrip.

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Old 13th Jul 2012, 13:47
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Well we need to keep the island communities happy and content. There are loads to be made on the subsidised air routes

The fact that the islanders (Skye), have a bridge, a ferry, a bus, a mainland bus, a mainland train service, appears at times not to be enough. We might require an airlink. Step up interested parties, to the golden trough

Only for those and such as those though.

If it is indeed an airlink theory, cheaper with a helicopter, or bikes, keep them fit, peddling across the bridge.
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Old 13th Aug 2012, 08:22
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The Oban Airport marketing contract has been awarded to an Edinburgh-based company called Business & Tourism Solutions Ltd. As far as I can make out they have no aviation experience or background.
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Old 13th Aug 2012, 10:00
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Do you really think any one with even a little bit of aviation savy would touch it with the ****test stick on the west coast?

Selling nukes to arabs it is not.
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Old 13th Aug 2012, 10:41
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Just got back from three days on Mull taking in Oban and Collensay
The weather was good and everyone was very helpful and friendly. I recommend people go and have fun!

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Old 13th Aug 2012, 11:20
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I'm a little loath to post anything about Oban but...

Latest development is handy for fly in visitors - they have 4 bicycles available for loan on a 'first come, first served' basis can be arranged at the same time as PPR I believe.

So something positive in amongst all the usual in-fighting and council business.
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Old 13th Aug 2012, 11:26
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Are the bikes available for loan from the airport or from TLC?
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Old 13th Aug 2012, 12:46
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has the supply of mogas been resolved?
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Old 13th Aug 2012, 14:17
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The bikes are from the airport - hence the request when asking for ppr.

Mogas - I didn't dare ask, this is Oban........
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Old 13th Aug 2012, 14:29
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You want Mogas....

On yer bike! ..........

and if you don't have one, we can rent you one (as long as you PPR)
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Old 13th Aug 2012, 22:12
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Doing my PPL training so I'm a newbie here and my opinion probably isn't that important however I had 4 flights last weekend at Oban. It sure beats a 4 hour round trip to Perth before I even fly, the scenery is astonishing and the airport staff very friendly. Seems tragic that events are conspiring to ruin a great airport in a gorgeous location and of course if it goes down the pan it will take me even longer to get my license now !

I flew with Border Air Training and wont open another can of worms discussing the pros and cons of flight schools suffice to say I will be sticking with Border!

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Old 14th Aug 2012, 18:43
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The Oban Airport marketing contract has been awarded to an Edinburgh-based company called Business & Tourism Solutions Ltd. As far as I can make out they have no aviation experience or background.
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As far as I can make out they have had 0 turnover for year ending 31/3/11 and for year ending 31/3/10. If they didn't market themselves.....
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Old 14th Aug 2012, 21:22
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Has this marketing contract got anything to do with running the airport? If the company is just trying to attract tourists, they don't need aviation experience.
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Old 14th Aug 2012, 22:38
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Doing my PPL training so I'm a newbie here and my opinion probably isn't that important however I had 4 flights last weekend at Oban.
Is there now a full time flying training organisation at Oban?
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Old 15th Aug 2012, 09:18
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If the company is just trying to attract tourists, they don't need aviation experience.
If they are trying to attract none aviation tourists they already have the scottish tourist board and also the ABC local tourist board doing it as well.

Now if they are trying to get avaition tourists in they will need to know a thing or two about aviation needs and also what the market wants to be able to promote the airfields as a desitnation.

Realistically for Oban it will be wasted money because for that sort of field you best marketing is by word of mouth. The scottish day trippers all know about the bun fights there and either are in the group that go there or are in the group that don't.

Further south PPrune is going to influence more people than any marketing. Again the bun fight is well know and the dirty washing is all there for folk to see.

Apart from that trip reports in the rags might influence people.

But the money spent on the marketing won't be recovered in increased movements.

The only way they will increase movements is.

1. Accept none PPR traffic by RT call.

2. Get rid of the out of hours rubbish paper work exercise.

3. MOGAS on the airfield

4. Get back the old atmosphere of the place.

If they don't change the above items they are just pissing even more money into the wind.
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Old 15th Aug 2012, 10:43
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I think you're completely right MJ - but the council don't want to hear that having 4 people working on a Saturday, compulsory yellow vests, permission to start, ppr and all of the other nonsense at Oban puts people off - how could it - the council imposed it!

No they'll get a report which says that strategically placed adverts in non-flying publications, a 'cross media campaign', bigger signs and having to book parking places on the airfield and paying for parking outside it are the way forward.....

I have just made this up - but watch........
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Old 15th Aug 2012, 12:31
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Is there now a full time flying training organisation at Oban?

No I was flying with Border Air training based in Carlisle and Cumbernauld - they send an aircraft up to Oban to do scenic flights but you can also book it for training while it's there which makes a massive difference to the alternative for me which is driving to Perth or Cumbernauld.
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Old 15th Aug 2012, 13:20
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Maoraigh1:
Has this marketing contract got anything to do with running the airport? If the company is just trying to attract tourists, they don't need aviation experience
Objectives of the contract, from the tender documents:
attract additional activity/business to the airport
attract additional passengers/ general aviations pilots
consolidate existing PSO service
pursue new air services and attract airlines operating new routes
Raise the profile of the airport
inform the community, other stakeholders, funding agencies
I'd say aviation knowledge was pretty useful in achieving most of those.
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Old 15th Aug 2012, 22:35
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I think Jock's advice given above would be ten times more successful at a tiny fraction of the cost.
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Old 15th Aug 2012, 22:59
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Jock - why not give them a buzz and see if they want to use you as a consultant for a few extra clams?
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