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Well I wrote to Salmond a coupe of years ago, and as expected got nowhere. As typical of politicians they kick it around like the hot potato it is, until it lands on the desk of a master of spin, who basically replies to you that it is all someone else's fault and problem, but they are clinically insane so can't actually do mutch about your initial query.
It is a new lot that are now in at ABC, and as public servents will be keen to cover their arses, so that their pensions are ultimately safe.
Someone with the judicial knowledge may be able to help here
It is a new lot that are now in at ABC, and as public servents will be keen to cover their arses, so that their pensions are ultimately safe.
Someone with the judicial knowledge may be able to help here
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How is one of these review things kicked off then?
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I think I will save that for the next time I have to start earlies again.
But just reading the opening section. It only there if the process has been incorrect and the council has acted outside thier mandate.
I don't think it covers make a crap investment choice.
But just reading the opening section. It only there if the process has been incorrect and the council has acted outside thier mandate.
I don't think it covers make a crap investment choice.
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It only there if the process has been incorrect and the council has acted outside thier mandate.
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They were caught up in the glorious pre 2007 era where everyone could get everything for nothing. Vast swathes of Easterhouse flying daily/weekly to Benidorm, all on the never never. Everyone was a businessman, flipping houses like pancakes, except the money did not really exist.... Did it.
I saw the numbers, 5000 passenger movements a month. locals asking when the Ryansir flights were starting, when the Glasgow shuttles were scheduled.
Crap decision?? Sad really, not one of them knew what they were doing.
However, fabulous facility, in a truly beautiful part of the world, so. Just need to find the answer'.
I saw the numbers, 5000 passenger movements a month. locals asking when the Ryansir flights were starting, when the Glasgow shuttles were scheduled.
Crap decision?? Sad really, not one of them knew what they were doing.
However, fabulous facility, in a truly beautiful part of the world, so. Just need to find the answer'.
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I was working so didn't get there but I was told by someone who did that there were about 70 visiting aircraft.
With that kind of traffic maybe they should keep the £5 landing fee! I would go more often even without the free burger.
D.O.
With that kind of traffic maybe they should keep the £5 landing fee! I would go more often even without the free burger.
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Two of us were planning to visit from darkest Lincolnshire (part of Englandshire) but the weather over the borders refused to play ball. 70 visitors sounds like a good attendance.
Do they still do a Strathallen, don't fly thru the meatbomber range, mid-week fly-in? I went to the first one, that was the best ever!
Do they still do a Strathallen, don't fly thru the meatbomber range, mid-week fly-in? I went to the first one, that was the best ever!
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Re Judicial Review
I don't know if Scottish law is the same as England and Wales but down south its like this
1) after the council makes a decision you have 3 months MAX to as for JR
2) Someone pays £50K of legal fees
3) IF the judge says you can have a JR then
3) Someone pays £200K for a judge to review the PROCESS of making a decision.
4) IF judges thinks the PROCESS of making the decision was wrong he tell the council to go back and make the decision again, and gives most of the fees back. IF the judge thinks the council followed the correct procedure he awards costs against the someone who has already paid £250K and they pay ANOTHER £250K
5) The council can then make EXACTLY THE SAME DESISION AGAIN if they so choose.
SO
a) its not within 3 months of a reviewable decision , so its not going to happen.
b) At no time can the contracts in place be reversed by this process, so there is not much point in this case
c) Who is upset enough to risk £500K just to prove the council made a poor choice?
1) after the council makes a decision you have 3 months MAX to as for JR
2) Someone pays £50K of legal fees
3) IF the judge says you can have a JR then
3) Someone pays £200K for a judge to review the PROCESS of making a decision.
4) IF judges thinks the PROCESS of making the decision was wrong he tell the council to go back and make the decision again, and gives most of the fees back. IF the judge thinks the council followed the correct procedure he awards costs against the someone who has already paid £250K and they pay ANOTHER £250K
5) The council can then make EXACTLY THE SAME DESISION AGAIN if they so choose.
SO
a) its not within 3 months of a reviewable decision , so its not going to happen.
b) At no time can the contracts in place be reversed by this process, so there is not much point in this case
c) Who is upset enough to risk £500K just to prove the council made a poor choice?
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Its not my specialist field but FWIW my understanding (having been involved on the periphery of a couple) is that in Scotland there is no three month limit - a judicial review simply has to be applied for within a reasonable time and without undue delay.
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Oldpilot55 wrote.
"Do they still do a Strathallen, don't fly thru the meatbomber range, mid-week fly-in? I went to the first one, that was the best ever!"
Hi oldpilot. Yes the Strathallan thing is still going. I think Kieron tries to keep it a secret now its getting so big.
D.O.
"Do they still do a Strathallen, don't fly thru the meatbomber range, mid-week fly-in? I went to the first one, that was the best ever!"
Hi oldpilot. Yes the Strathallan thing is still going. I think Kieron tries to keep it a secret now its getting so big.
D.O.
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This month:
Solas, 14-18 June (Beach on North Uist).
Fife, 16 June.
LAA East of Scotland Strut Kingsmuir, 23-24 June.
And next month, LAA Highland & Islands Strut, Dornoch 28-29 July.
Solas, 14-18 June (Beach on North Uist).
Fife, 16 June.
LAA East of Scotland Strut Kingsmuir, 23-24 June.
And next month, LAA Highland & Islands Strut, Dornoch 28-29 July.
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Of couse there is the Strathaven Airfield Summer Solstice Fly-In on June 16th, with HangarFest in the evening - about 6 live bands, some in the hangar, some in an "accoustic" tent.
Music and BBQ in the afternoon, tickets for the evening are a tenner, all proceeds to the Adams Community Trust.
Camping.
Music and BBQ in the afternoon, tickets for the evening are a tenner, all proceeds to the Adams Community Trust.
Camping.
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They never learn..
..and in the middle of the recession they want to develop flights from Skye now...
BBC News - Potential use of Skye's Ashaig airstrip re-examined
BBC News - Potential use of Skye's Ashaig airstrip re-examined
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Would that be this wind farm proposal? Shown to be no threat whatsoever. If Skye is to have air services then it has to be something sensible that can be achieved on the existing runway, so that limits it to Hebridean doing Glasgow-Oban-Skye or similar. And of course it'll be VFR only which inevitably puts it in heavy subsidy territory. Alternatively you could invest in a runway extension and instrument procedures - which inevitably puts it in heavy subsidy territory.
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