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Old 12th Dec 2007, 19:31
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IMCR - The Petition - Please give your support

On average nearly 50 pilots a day are signing up!

Please give your support.

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/IMC-Rating/

You know it makes sense.
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Old 13th Dec 2007, 08:02
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Even over night there is one pilot every hour signing up at the moment.

However, to be fair petitions in themselves are not enough.

If you have signed, you are going to need to write to your Euro MP - letters filling the letterbox and all that sort of thing. Please watch out for who to write to.
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It shows the huge support for this issue - 350 names on the petition know including:

Al Walker - CFI RAF Halton Aero Club

Thank you Mr Walker.

Brilliant.

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Wow, huge......
Just another 10 or 12 thousand to go for majority support. Keep up the good work.
Not to mention the fact that the petition is clearly fraudulent with a significant number of names having been added to it fraudulently/falsly including my own.

How do you expect to be taken seriously......


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Originally Posted by Fuji Abound
It shows the huge support for this issue - 350 names on the petition know including:

Al Walker - CFI RAF Halton Aero Club

Thank you Mr Walker.

Brilliant.

Originally Posted by RAF Halton Aero Club Website
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Can't think why he'd sign
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Not to mention the fact that the petition is clearly fraudulent with a significant number of names having been added to it fraudulently/falsly including my own.
bose, that is appallingly bad.

That means that someone is bolstering the numbers in an attempt to make it look good!

Unbelievable
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Regrettably it seems that the petition is being undermined by idiots using false names.

It will certainly be a wste of time to rely on the petition; instead you should contact IAOPA, European Air Sports and your MEP.....
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It will certainly be a wste of time to rely on the petition; instead you should contact IAOPA, European Air Sports and your MEP.....
Oh god Beagle now look what you have done. There will now follow 20 pages from Fuji about how crap AOPA are......
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I sincerely hope the clowns who are setting out to damage this petition (anyone know who they may be?) take a long slow read of the thread on the AAIB report of those two poor sods killed at Blackpool earlier this year. Even leaving personal stupid decision-making to one side, as has already been said, ANY more instrument currency/training/experience than they obviously had on board might just have avoided them getting into that situation in the first place.

And then, personally, I'd be happy to see said clowns have that report rolled into a tight tube and hammered somewhere very painful .... muppets.

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Old 14th Dec 2007, 09:40
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Not sure whether lobbying European Air Sports is the best course of action. According to reports, they were the chief people who ensured that the LAPL would not have the IFR add-on which EASA had originally wanted it to have.
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IO,

Surely that makes them the best people to lobby? They need to know that they are alienating a large group of European pilots, and that there will be consequences if they don't change their mind.

In my experience, people tend to take the path of least resistance. If EAS gets no resistance, then they'll continue down the path they have chosen. If they get a big backlash they may give it further thought.

Obviously it would be wrong to lobby them exclusively, but I see no reason not to lobby them.

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Old 14th Dec 2007, 14:32
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I am pleased to see Dorothy Pooley has signed the petition.
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How do we know it's her? There are so many false entries on that petition now that it no longer has an credibility.
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It's obvious that every petition will have a load of monkeys signing it.

What will happen (if anybody ever looks at one of these things) is that somebody will contact a few dozen people at random and check them out. A few clown signatures don't cause a problem.
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I0540

It doesnt matter

- I knew Bosey couldnt resist the comment he made

- Fortunately I have spoken to Dorthy at some length, who is a great supporter of the IMCr and is a very well informed and intelligent lady.
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I am sorry Fudji but I really don't see your point of name dropping.

We know that everyone supports retention of the IMCR, I have not seen a single post or talked to anyone who says it should go. There are those including myself who think the standards need improving but that is a separate discussion.

So I really do not see the point in your continuous posts about who has signed.

What we want to see is how you plan on keeping the rating not. All I see the moment is you enjoying being the centre of attention and doing **** all to represent pilots like myself.
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Why is Lord Stevens of Kirkwhelpington President of AOPA?

Why is HRH president on many organisations?

We all like to know that people of exceptional ability or standing support or are behind a particular organisation or matter - that's all.

Actually I would far rather not be the centre of attention (if for that matter I am, which I very much doubt).

I have said on a few occasions I do feel very passionatley about this issue.

I have also said I dont have all the answers.

All I am seeking to do is tell as many people as I can that this is really important to us all and we should all work together to find a solution to protect priviliges which we have earned.
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So I really do not see the point in your continuous posts about who has signed.
I dunno about that bose.

Graham Hill has signed it (posthumously I assume)
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Rustle.....I do hope that it's not you adding these ficticious names to the petition simply to wind up Fuji here. Whoever is doing it, is doing a great diservice to GA, and is no friend to GA.

Bose, I've noticed that Fuji has refrained from AOPA bashing since my posting the other day asking you & him to call a truce or take it to pm. Can't try to respond by being a little bit more constructive, and not trying to wind him up?

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Rustle.....I do hope that it's not you adding these ficticious names to the petition simply to wind up Fuji here. Whoever is doing it, is doing a great diservice to GA, and is no friend to GA.

dp
Nothing to do with me squire, I just check it now and again to see if "I" have signed it.
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