IMCR - The Petition - Please give your support
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Come on you lot - if you havent signed do it now - you now it makes sense:
.. .. .. and it is only a click away - what could be more simple.
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/IMC-Rating/
The 1,000 names on the petition is not that far away.
.. .. .. and it is only a click away - what could be more simple.
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/IMC-Rating/
The 1,000 names on the petition is not that far away.
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Have you contacted BALPA? A lot of airline pilots fly privately in retirement and currently will not even know about this proposed change. BALPA should be encouraged to publicise the petition in 'The Log'
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Well not all BALPA members are against it as I see from some of my colleagues signatures on the petition. I would be very suprised to find any BALPA member who wants to fly light aircraft against this proposal. What union management want and what union membership want can be vastly different as Arthur Scargil and Brian Robertson eventualy found out!
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I am saying that the the Airline Pilots Association of which BALPA is one member voted against it. In fact not only voted against it but were very vociferous in their very anti views.
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Sorry don't know what the ECA is. Pilot union reps were introduced as being from the Airline Pilots Association. I can dig out a names if I get chance they will be in the minutes.
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I wouldn't expect anyone to compromise themselves in such a way. I'd imagined that EASA as a 'public body' representing and acting on behalf of the public, industry, and law makers across the EU would make its minutes available to those who want them.
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European Cockpit Association.
I am already in correspondence with them.
BALPA is one of 32 member associations that are represented by ECA.
It may be incorrect to suggest that BALPAs stance is the same as the ECAs.
I am already in correspondence with them.
BALPA is one of 32 member associations that are represented by ECA.
It may be incorrect to suggest that BALPAs stance is the same as the ECAs.
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I wouldn't expect anyone to compromise themselves in such a way. I'd imagined that EASA as a 'public body' representing and acting on behalf of the public, industry, and law makers across the EU would make its minutes available to those who want them.
I am unable to assist and don't want to get into an argument about it.
Fuji,
Allegedly the airline unions are all joined up and speak with one voice unlike the GA side of things! All I can comment on is that the 'airline unions' are anti IMCR.
Indeed the European Crackpot Association.
Basically they will do ANYTHING to reduce the number of pilots daring to want to venture into the airspace these people think is theirs - and they also want to venture increasingly often into the 'open FIR' when hauling drunken hen parties and sink-estate trash to various European watering holes to drink themselves into oblivion....
They haven't realised - or perhaps don't wish to understand - that Mode S, Level 4 ICAO English and other requirements will naturally reduce the number of non-UK people able to use the UK IMCR flight test outside the UK, were it to be permitted.
The ECA is being exceptionally dog-in-the-manger over this. Or rather their somewhat vociferous spokesperson is. Regrettably the case for the UK IMCR wasn't presented by anyone with experience of the Rating and its uses........
On another tack, I know learn that anyone stupid enough to bother with the LAPL won't receive any credit towards the EAS-FCL PPL(A)....
That was one of the chief requirements we had for the NPPL - a straightforward upgrade process from NPPL(SSEA) to JAR-FCL PPL(A).....
Neither am I convinced that the PPL/IR clique are terribly interested in promoting the UK IMCR.......
Basically they will do ANYTHING to reduce the number of pilots daring to want to venture into the airspace these people think is theirs - and they also want to venture increasingly often into the 'open FIR' when hauling drunken hen parties and sink-estate trash to various European watering holes to drink themselves into oblivion....
They haven't realised - or perhaps don't wish to understand - that Mode S, Level 4 ICAO English and other requirements will naturally reduce the number of non-UK people able to use the UK IMCR flight test outside the UK, were it to be permitted.
The ECA is being exceptionally dog-in-the-manger over this. Or rather their somewhat vociferous spokesperson is. Regrettably the case for the UK IMCR wasn't presented by anyone with experience of the Rating and its uses........
On another tack, I know learn that anyone stupid enough to bother with the LAPL won't receive any credit towards the EAS-FCL PPL(A)....
That was one of the chief requirements we had for the NPPL - a straightforward upgrade process from NPPL(SSEA) to JAR-FCL PPL(A).....Neither am I convinced that the PPL/IR clique are terribly interested in promoting the UK IMCR.......
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But apart from all that what about approaching BALPA to see if you can get an article in 'The Log'?
This thread is about giving support not about belly aching about the rights and wrongs of other organsiations whom are obviously going to have different aggendas.
This thread is about giving support not about belly aching about the rights and wrongs of other organsiations whom are obviously going to have different aggendas.