What Ever Happened to BCT at Kemble
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Hi Zorst. Thanks for your input.
These buggers are simply awful people. They prey on nice people and continue to get away with taking there money.
I hope they get what is comming to them!
These buggers are simply awful people. They prey on nice people and continue to get away with taking there money.
I hope they get what is comming to them!
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Hi Vertiginous, Thanks again for your support. I do not know exactly what they are/were. At the time I paid the money they were a vat registered company (company, I think meaning ltd) what they were at the time the phone was put down on me and I was informed there was nothing PS could do to help me (creep), I have no idea what the organization was. I know from others that BCT did not have a valid AOC (what ever that is) when they were flying people around doing sight-seeing/etc flights and that vat bills were not offered on payment of flights despite being informed their rates included vat. In fact the old BCT web site price list verified the inclusion of vat. PS was, according to himself running the fiasco at that time. Perhaps the flying authorities should be included in the chain of interested investigative parties.
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Certain individuals will be arrested shortly
Well well. Flybuddy, you done good. Keep us all informed, won't you. Remember to post any photos you might come by of red-hot pokers being used on guilty persons.
Oh, what I would give to hear our dear friend, yours and mine, talking utter gibberish to HMRC.
Have an e-beer on me.
Oh, what I would give to hear our dear friend, yours and mine, talking utter gibberish to HMRC.
Have an e-beer on me.
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Companies House are showing the following:
Trans-International Airways Ltd,
Building 9,
Kemble Airfield,
GL7 6BA
Date of incorporation: 9/8/2006
Directors:
Secretary Ms J Shanley 20/11/1966,
Director P.J. Shanley 20/6/1964
Finance director:
Christopher Mewis
Previous directors:
M.C.Litten 1/6/73
R.A.Brown 6/12/60
Change of directors 17/10/06
Last paperwork at Companies House was 3/10/2007 but it does not say what.
Also has the Shanley's home address on it...
Trans-International Airways Ltd,
Building 9,
Kemble Airfield,
GL7 6BA
Date of incorporation: 9/8/2006
Directors:
Secretary Ms J Shanley 20/11/1966,
Director P.J. Shanley 20/6/1964
Finance director:
Christopher Mewis
Previous directors:
M.C.Litten 1/6/73
R.A.Brown 6/12/60
Change of directors 17/10/06
Last paperwork at Companies House was 3/10/2007 but it does not say what.
Also has the Shanley's home address on it...
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Good grief
What a shower. Tracing Bob Brown is not likely to be easy, but I maintain that you will never get anything whatever out of Pawl Shanley except possibly the pleasure of passing HMRC or the police enough information to get him in front of a district judge.
It was always clear that BCT was not liquidated properly. Ownership of its assets appears to have been simply assumed by a new company, which was then promptly merged with another firm. As a method of avoiding paying debts to BCT's creditors, this is pretty crass, and up to the standard of imbecility I would expect from Pawl Shanley.
If BCT was not properly liquidated — as appears to be the case — the police should be contacted. The winding-up of BCT seems to have been fraudulent, and I can't believe the police would simply brush off the contents of this message-board (and a fistful of VAT receipts) without at least making a few basic enquiries.
The creditors should present an outline of the matter to the police. There is nothing to be lost, after all.
Good luck.
It was always clear that BCT was not liquidated properly. Ownership of its assets appears to have been simply assumed by a new company, which was then promptly merged with another firm. As a method of avoiding paying debts to BCT's creditors, this is pretty crass, and up to the standard of imbecility I would expect from Pawl Shanley.
If BCT was not properly liquidated — as appears to be the case — the police should be contacted. The winding-up of BCT seems to have been fraudulent, and I can't believe the police would simply brush off the contents of this message-board (and a fistful of VAT receipts) without at least making a few basic enquiries.
The creditors should present an outline of the matter to the police. There is nothing to be lost, after all.
Good luck.
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Contact P and A Partnership
Queens Road
Sheffield
They handled the liquidation of BCT Aircraft Leasing
They must have the accounts and therfore must have a record of your debt.
Have you a copy of the invoce ?
Queens Road
Sheffield
They handled the liquidation of BCT Aircraft Leasing
They must have the accounts and therfore must have a record of your debt.
Have you a copy of the invoce ?
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Attn. Driver 21 (‘Beware’)
It's worth bearing in mind that Flybuddy isn't the only aggrieved party to have contributed to this thread, the previous character of Pawl Shanley is known to me and is entirely consistent with the events described, and the circumstances of the creation of TIA and its subsequent merger do not suggest that BCT was wound up in such a way as to give its creditors much of a shout.
Your post hints at something that should be stated outright: what allegations are being made against Flybuddy in the bar-rooms of the world? And do they really serve to counter the anger of BCT's former customers over the loss of their money and their treatment at the hands of the genius Pawl Shanley?
Your post hints at something that should be stated outright: what allegations are being made against Flybuddy in the bar-rooms of the world? And do they really serve to counter the anger of BCT's former customers over the loss of their money and their treatment at the hands of the genius Pawl Shanley?
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HMMM
Hey There,
Have Just Been Reading The Thread About Pawl Shanley And Am Quite Concerned As He Has Recently Contacted Me About Another Matter And I Had Thought He Was A Decent Guy But Now Am Reconsidering That Thought!!
I Am Glad I Havent Started Business Dealings With Him And Am Also Glad That I Research The People That I Am Going To Do Business With! Does Anyone Know Who Jane Is? Is That His Wife /sister / Mother??
Thanks
Have Just Been Reading The Thread About Pawl Shanley And Am Quite Concerned As He Has Recently Contacted Me About Another Matter And I Had Thought He Was A Decent Guy But Now Am Reconsidering That Thought!!
I Am Glad I Havent Started Business Dealings With Him And Am Also Glad That I Research The People That I Am Going To Do Business With! Does Anyone Know Who Jane Is? Is That His Wife /sister / Mother??
Thanks
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Hi Vertiginous,
I do not know what to say about Driver 21. I understood from his earlier thread that he was offering assistance having provided details about BCT but it would seem from what he has said in his later thread that not only does he know a lot about BCT (almost as though he was a part of the business) but also feels the need to slander me.
The bottom line is I paid a lot of money with a vat invoice being supplied for the charter of their AOC aircraft and pilot and was not offered either the flying or a refund when it was clear they were not going to honour my credit. Why am I now being attacked?
M
I do not know what to say about Driver 21. I understood from his earlier thread that he was offering assistance having provided details about BCT but it would seem from what he has said in his later thread that not only does he know a lot about BCT (almost as though he was a part of the business) but also feels the need to slander me.
The bottom line is I paid a lot of money with a vat invoice being supplied for the charter of their AOC aircraft and pilot and was not offered either the flying or a refund when it was clear they were not going to honour my credit. Why am I now being attacked?
M
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Hi frost100
In the 29th April thread there is info on J Shanley but it does not say what the relationship is to Mr P Shanley. I have been informed he is married so it could be that J is his wife. Sorry I cannot give more help.
In the 29th April thread there is info on J Shanley but it does not say what the relationship is to Mr P Shanley. I have been informed he is married so it could be that J is his wife. Sorry I cannot give more help.
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APOLOGY to Mr B Brown
I have received a private message from Mr B Brown asking for an apology as his name has been used without confirmation of his involvement. The contents of his message provided considerable information indicating he was one of the original partners in BCT but has not been involved in the recent poor dealings of the company. In fact he has personally accrued considerable debts as a result of his earlier involvement in BCT.
I therefore apologise for the inclusion of his name which was supplied by a fellow PPrune member as part of a large report on BCT and it's final days. I have removed this thread at the request of Mr Brown.
I am still owed the money that I paid for the charter flying I was not given but at this time do not know for sure who owes me the money.
I therefore apologise for the inclusion of his name which was supplied by a fellow PPrune member as part of a large report on BCT and it's final days. I have removed this thread at the request of Mr Brown.
I am still owed the money that I paid for the charter flying I was not given but at this time do not know for sure who owes me the money.
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Hi BRL
Why, do you not think it is good for people to offer assistance and support to those who have lost money.
Why, do you not think it is good for people to offer assistance and support to those who have lost money.
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Hi XL319, I know what you mean. It is a shame these people are out there, happy to take other's money. I will never make the mistake of paying in advance for anything again. They saw me comming.
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Hi BRL
Why, do you not think it is good for people to offer assistance and support to those who have lost money.
Why, do you not think it is good for people to offer assistance and support to those who have lost money.
It is also to try and prevent the situation happening that you brought to my attention in your email to me today. (slanderous posts........)
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Hi BRL,
Thank you. This whole situation is very upsetting. I have lost a lot of money and have been provided with considerable support showing I am not alone with my problem. I was advised to post the details about BCT which I did after clarifying it was ok to post the author's contents but in hindsight perhaps should not have mentioned names but the details alone. I think perhaps I was used by others to voice their personal feelings about BCT and to no benefit to this thread or my financial loss.
Where to go from here. I find myself being slandered without provocation when infact I am the victim.
Thank you. This whole situation is very upsetting. I have lost a lot of money and have been provided with considerable support showing I am not alone with my problem. I was advised to post the details about BCT which I did after clarifying it was ok to post the author's contents but in hindsight perhaps should not have mentioned names but the details alone. I think perhaps I was used by others to voice their personal feelings about BCT and to no benefit to this thread or my financial loss.
Where to go from here. I find myself being slandered without provocation when infact I am the victim.