Would you put PPL on your CV??
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In 400 words or less, state which of the 3 would you select and provide your reasons.
A. 'O' Levels? long time ago? 22?
B. ?
C. Customer focused work, stable, worked their way up, in charge of others.
Probably way off.
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Most successful self made businessmen never ever have a strong academic record.
Re. the original question, put it on your CV for sure. Unless you're applying for a flying job (they might expect a CPL...)
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I'd go for the candidates with 6 O Levels; after all, aren't they like A Levels now? 
When I've recruited, I've looked at qualifications and experience which are presented to me in the form of a neat, concise CV with correct grammar and spelling. Those are the ones I will interview. Then, I find out about the person during a one to one.
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'Ang on - just spotted BEag's rider - all aged 22. Not quite sure how a 22 year old gets O Levels these days! So therefore I wouldn't choose A as she's lied on her CV and done so with little background knowledge and intelligence!!!
When I've recruited, I've looked at qualifications and experience which are presented to me in the form of a neat, concise CV with correct grammar and spelling. Those are the ones I will interview. Then, I find out about the person during a one to one.
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'Ang on - just spotted BEag's rider - all aged 22. Not quite sure how a 22 year old gets O Levels these days! So therefore I wouldn't choose A as she's lied on her CV and done so with little background knowledge and intelligence!!!
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C.
A is boring, probably good with difficult pax though..
B is still trying to find something that might be suiatble in life.
C stepped out on their own and managed to make it and is clearly ambitious,
is always good.
And almost forgot, yes put your PPL on your CV, it shows diversity and a challenging hobby. It means you don't shy away from difficult decision scenario's even on your day off.
A is boring, probably good with difficult pax though..
B is still trying to find something that might be suiatble in life.
C stepped out on their own and managed to make it and is clearly ambitious,
customer service team manager
And almost forgot, yes put your PPL on your CV, it shows diversity and a challenging hobby. It means you don't shy away from difficult decision scenario's even on your day off.
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I wonder how many other people dont put hobbies or personal pursuits on their CV's?
But I do put the PPL on, as a qualification/skill, not as a hobby, in the section where you list the languages you can speak.
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I've never written a CV, and haven't applied for a job since I was 15 so I can't really speak from experience.
I do however employ people and would certainly look favourably on a candidate who listed flying as one of their hobbies.
As for this:
I'd just employ the one with the biggest tits!
I do however employ people and would certainly look favourably on a candidate who listed flying as one of their hobbies.
As for this:
Q. You are the Recruitment Manager responsible to the Chief Executive Officer for the selection of applicants to work as Flight Attendants for your airline.
There are 3 candidates, all aged 22:
Candidate A has worked as a childrens’ nanny and has 6 ‘O’ levels. She also speaks some conversational French.
Candidate B left school with 4 GCSEs; after a gap year back-packing in the Far East she later qualified as a nurse.
Candidate C left school at 16, then worked in a department store as a junior and now works as a customer service team manager for the same store.
In 400 words or less, state which of the 3 would you select and provide your reasons.
There are 3 candidates, all aged 22:
Candidate A has worked as a childrens’ nanny and has 6 ‘O’ levels. She also speaks some conversational French.
Candidate B left school with 4 GCSEs; after a gap year back-packing in the Far East she later qualified as a nurse.
Candidate C left school at 16, then worked in a department store as a junior and now works as a customer service team manager for the same store.
In 400 words or less, state which of the 3 would you select and provide your reasons.
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I'd just employ the one with the biggest tits!
Me too, although I might settle for a nice bottom too!
Oh, and yes I would put my PPL(H) on my CV - shows any number of qualities which I regard as positive - and I can't think of a negative quality it could portray (unless accompanied with "until I can get a CPL/ATPL and disappear off for a flying career!").
Put PPL on a CV? Yes, but don't otherwise mention it unless asked. Pilots tend to think flying is much more important than anyone else does. See the "Biggles, you’re a crashing bore........." thread. Clarkson is not alone. Eg:
Or:
Incredible as it may seem to us pilots, flying is a bit of a bore to most of the human race.
How do you know you're half way through your first date with a pilot? He says: "Enough about me, let's talk about flying".
Never bother to ask someone if they're a pilot; if they are, they'll soon tell you.
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digital.poet said:
Why wait? Put it on now - it shows the same qualities now as it will when you qualify (time management, decision making, dedication, etc., etc.).
I intend to when I qualify.
G-EMMA said:
and I said:
Quite right: I exagerated. Perhaps we can agree that some people, including Mr Clarkson, find it a bit boring? Flying requires persistance and a degree of dedication. That's good on a CV. But the necessary degree of dedication can make some pilots seem a bit boring to those that don't happen to be interested. When I'm interviewing, I prefer someone with a well-rounded set of interests, rather than someone who seems dominated by one particular interest.
FREDAcheck, strangely I don't find that people find it boring.
...flying is a bit of a bore to most of the human race.
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Of course you should put it on the CV in the "interests and activities" section....you never know, the interviewer may be a pilot and it may prove to be a useful talking point so long as you don't take up the attitude "I'm the best pilot around, I know everything" and come across as an arrogant t*at.
Thank god I work in an industry where experience is everything - despite having a degree in Electronic Communication Engineering, I have NEVER had to show it once......Come to think if it, I wonder where I left it....
Paul, I won't be applying to your company, you couldn't pay me enough to work somewhere which treats people like that
I probably wouldn't get the job either, as I worked at B&Q for a while as a student 
Thank god I work in an industry where experience is everything - despite having a degree in Electronic Communication Engineering, I have NEVER had to show it once......Come to think if it, I wonder where I left it....
Paul, I won't be applying to your company, you couldn't pay me enough to work somewhere which treats people like that
I probably wouldn't get the job either, as I worked at B&Q for a while as a student
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Absolutely put it on!!!!!
I've lost count of the CVs which have come across my desk with interests listed as;
"I enjoy going to the cinema, playing football and socialising with friends"
DOH! Yeah - who doesn't!
At least if you have something other than the above there's a topic for the interviewer to form a question around. Very handy (for the interviewer, and for your job prospects!)
(and I won't employ anyone without at least a B in standard grade English (it's our language and candidates should be able to speak/write it!) and Maths (or preferrably a few decent "Highers" but I am North of the border and we don't have the narrow focused A level nonscence up here- but that's hardly to PP's high standard!)
I've lost count of the CVs which have come across my desk with interests listed as;
"I enjoy going to the cinema, playing football and socialising with friends"
DOH! Yeah - who doesn't!
At least if you have something other than the above there's a topic for the interviewer to form a question around. Very handy (for the interviewer, and for your job prospects!)
(and I won't employ anyone without at least a B in standard grade English (it's our language and candidates should be able to speak/write it!) and Maths (or preferrably a few decent "Highers" but I am North of the border and we don't have the narrow focused A level nonscence up here- but that's hardly to PP's high standard!)
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Anybody who worked for McDonalds, Burger King etc is out
As for the original question - I think there was another poster who said not in hobbies and interests - but in skills. I'd agree. Admittedly I work in an aviation job so it's perhaps more appropriate there.
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I had one interview where, somehow or other (worked for an aeronautics firm), the subject got on to private flying. He was amazed I hadn't put it on my CV. Personally, I find it a bit cringesome for some reason.
I concur with previous comments about academic background and McDonalds. The chap is almost certainly missing out on the most able, capable and productive people of all. As somebody with virtually no qualifications I would say that wouldn't I
But then, people try to recruit people like themselves.
I concur with previous comments about academic background and McDonalds. The chap is almost certainly missing out on the most able, capable and productive people of all. As somebody with virtually no qualifications I would say that wouldn't I
But then, people try to recruit people like themselves.
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There is no specific answer to this...or to a question about anything else you should or shouldn't put on your CV. Every CV you send out should be tailored individually for the specific company/individual you're sending it to. What is the job? Should you emphasise your many-moons-ago academic record (if you've just found out that PompeyPaul is the recruiter, you know the answer ) or will that make you appear over-qualified, when what the job needs is practical and/or people skills? Is your recent work record more important? Will your PPL make you appear intelligent and skillful and all that good stuff...or simply confuse a recruiter who probably has no idea what it is? Find out EVERYTHING you can about the company/individual and adapt your CV accordingly.
But in general, received wisdom is to put down a couple of interests and hobbies to prove that you're well-rounded and interesting, but not so many that recruiters think you won't have time for any work! And "I have a PPL and fly light aircraft occasionally when time permits" puts across more positive points than negative, on the whole.
But where CVs are concerned, there are few hard and fast rules as to content, unless you know the person who'll be reading it...or you're psychic.
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) or will that make you appear over-qualified, when what the job needs is practical and/or people skills? Is your recent work record more important? Will your PPL make you appear intelligent and skillful and all that good stuff...or simply confuse a recruiter who probably has no idea what it is? Find out EVERYTHING you can about the company/individual and adapt your CV accordingly.But in general, received wisdom is to put down a couple of interests and hobbies to prove that you're well-rounded and interesting, but not so many that recruiters think you won't have time for any work! And "I have a PPL and fly light aircraft occasionally when time permits" puts across more positive points than negative, on the whole.
But where CVs are concerned, there are few hard and fast rules as to content, unless you know the person who'll be reading it...or you're psychic.
I used to work in this area...if anyone actually cares.
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You need to tailor your CV to the job
Should you emphasise your many-moons-ago academic record (if you've just found out that PompeyPaul is the recruiter, you know the answer ) or will that make you appear over-qualified
) or will that make you appear over-qualified
It's not just me that will look for a strong academic background. Anybody recruiting in the software development \ research fields will generally require strong academia. If you are going for a part time job at Tescos then that PHD is probably not quite so important...
The only common thing is that hobbies and interests are incredibly important to almost every recruiter I know.
It is amazing though, how many people on a flying forum want to give me recruitment advice without even knowing the sort of people I recruit, or the industry that I'm in!
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Just wondering do people put PPL on their CV or would you?
Strangest thing I ever saw on a CV was 'experience in battle field interdiction'. Not sure how he thought that would help him get a responsible job in a civilian hospital. And it didn't.
As you get on in life a CV becomes pretty irrelevant anyway. Often used so HR can tick their box, the job has been offered a long time before a CV gets printed. Earlier on in a career when you are struggling for things to say, I suppose it could make you more interesting than others who are also struggling for things to say.
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if you know of any recruiters that look favourably on PPLs let me know!
Between contracts at the moment and too many poor agencies out there. So if anyone's looking for a PPL who's an ex engineer and specialises in process improvement, please pm me.