The Average UK GA PPL?
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WB
If one refrained from saying something that has been said before, most of pprune would shut down. All that would be left would be the main forum that dissects the most recent airliner crash.
Every other GA forum would shut down also.
If you don't want repetition, what I suggest you do (when you see somebody asking something that was answered previously) is dig out the previous thread(s), post the URL to it, and then you can save everybody else having to spend time typing up replies.
We will just have to disagree about the anoraks. Anyway, can one have a female anorak?
If one refrained from saying something that has been said before, most of pprune would shut down. All that would be left would be the main forum that dissects the most recent airliner crash.
Every other GA forum would shut down also.
If you don't want repetition, what I suggest you do (when you see somebody asking something that was answered previously) is dig out the previous thread(s), post the URL to it, and then you can save everybody else having to spend time typing up replies.
We will just have to disagree about the anoraks. Anyway, can one have a female anorak?
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From: Lyon
There's a difference between owning something, and owning part of something. In aviation the latter is generally called "sharing". You said that you own a 172, share a Seneca, and have access to other aircraft. Most people will have interpreted that as 100% ownership of the 172, and part ownership of the Seneca. But that wouldn't be a correct interpretation.
I couldn't give a toss if you can afford to own both of them outright, and others besides. But as has happened before, you imply something that is not correct.
I haven't had a fight since I was about 6 years old, so I suspect you'd win!
Last edited by Adrian N; 29th November 2006 at 17:11. Reason: (Deleted a sentence that was perhaps a bit facetious.)
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From: NW England
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From: Europe
Steve/Bose
I think you're a bit off the mark here.
Someone pulls you up on inconsistencies that you have posted in your posts.
Initially you then try to boast your way out of it but when that fails you write:
What is that supposed to mean?
That you will give someone a trashing if they have the audicity to query what you write?
Come on, I would have expected better from you.
I think you're a bit off the mark here.
Someone pulls you up on inconsistencies that you have posted in your posts.
Initially you then try to boast your way out of it but when that fails you write:
I suggest if you want to get into a fight with me you come and do it in person.
That you will give someone a trashing if they have the audicity to query what you write?
Come on, I would have expected better from you.
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From: England
way off
Rod's original post, seems to have been highjacked for sniping at each other or at groups of aviators.
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From: Lyon
Bose-x,
I re-read all my posts, and can't find any attacks. They say that you're a good, experienced, current pilot who talks a lot of sense, but that you exaggerate repeatedly. I've edited out one sentence that was a bit facetious.
I strongly suggest that you delete your rather childish comment.
I re-read all my posts, and can't find any attacks. They say that you're a good, experienced, current pilot who talks a lot of sense, but that you exaggerate repeatedly. I've edited out one sentence that was a bit facetious.
I strongly suggest that you delete your rather childish comment.
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From: Earth
Bose-X
You say that you are sometimes rather blunt. So am I.
I think you are being rather arrogant in this thread to be perfectly honest. Its not the fact that you have such toys at your disposal that seems to be anoying a certain person here, it's the way you are flaunting your success that is making him irritated by you.
Was there really any need to go into detail about your successful financial involvement in blue-chip companies? I think not. Sometimes when you feel like you are ahead it is best to become quieter as there will be plenty out there who will take the smallest thing you say as showing off. Unfortunately, on this occasion, you have bared all, shown your hand, and in my opinion deserve the grief that you have received.
Those who are successful and achieve great things normally retain them by adopting a more level headed attitude towards life. I, unlike you, am still trying to achieve great things. I hope one day I am successful and only time will tell if I am. One thing I can be sure of though is that if I do strike gold, i'll keep my gob shut and let those closest to me enjoy my good fortunes with me without rubbing the noses of others in it as I pass.
P.S Can I have a go in your Seneca?
You say that you are sometimes rather blunt. So am I.
I think you are being rather arrogant in this thread to be perfectly honest. Its not the fact that you have such toys at your disposal that seems to be anoying a certain person here, it's the way you are flaunting your success that is making him irritated by you.
Was there really any need to go into detail about your successful financial involvement in blue-chip companies? I think not. Sometimes when you feel like you are ahead it is best to become quieter as there will be plenty out there who will take the smallest thing you say as showing off. Unfortunately, on this occasion, you have bared all, shown your hand, and in my opinion deserve the grief that you have received.
Those who are successful and achieve great things normally retain them by adopting a more level headed attitude towards life. I, unlike you, am still trying to achieve great things. I hope one day I am successful and only time will tell if I am. One thing I can be sure of though is that if I do strike gold, i'll keep my gob shut and let those closest to me enjoy my good fortunes with me without rubbing the noses of others in it as I pass.
P.S Can I have a go in your Seneca?
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From: Nottinghamshire GAM 150/3.5
Back to the Tread
I suppose I fall into the average PPL category.
Been flying for many years about 800 hours of various flying but now settle for about 35 -40 hours a year in 172 or similar all paid for and costs about £3500 a year. Or that is what I tell the Boss!
I did have an IR but gave it up sometime ago, I like to fly for fun now and yes I suppose that is nice VMC days flying VFR.
Yes I may be unadventurous but I've had my fun and scarey bits and hopefully gained some experience to aviod them but you never know when the next one will hit you.
When it stops being fun and enjoyable then I know it is time to stop.
Ff44
Been flying for many years about 800 hours of various flying but now settle for about 35 -40 hours a year in 172 or similar all paid for and costs about £3500 a year. Or that is what I tell the Boss!
I did have an IR but gave it up sometime ago, I like to fly for fun now and yes I suppose that is nice VMC days flying VFR.
Yes I may be unadventurous but I've had my fun and scarey bits and hopefully gained some experience to aviod them but you never know when the next one will hit you.
When it stops being fun and enjoyable then I know it is time to stop.
Ff44
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From: Europe
Monocock wrote:
Can of course not talk for Adrian but think it is more the 'inaccuracies' of claims that got up his nose.
Have to say that those in general are the thing that hack me off mostly on internet forums too. The overinflated claims, half-truths and often blatant lies that some people post.
As you say most very successful people just keep stumm and can show amazing humbleness.
Few of those on here too. I am sure you too know who they are....
But then we did establish that Steve was not average.
Steve I think that your comments are unsavoury and that you should take them off.
Its not the fact that you have such toys at your disposal that seems to be anoying a certain person here, it's the way you are flaunting your success that is making him irritated by you.
Have to say that those in general are the thing that hack me off mostly on internet forums too. The overinflated claims, half-truths and often blatant lies that some people post.
As you say most very successful people just keep stumm and can show amazing humbleness.
Few of those on here too. I am sure you too know who they are....
But then we did establish that Steve was not average.
Steve I think that your comments are unsavoury and that you should take them off.
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From: Europe
You hijacked an entire thread to have a pop at me. Remove your comments and I will remove mine and we can continue to lock horns via PM.
I think those remarks you made will have to go.
You either take them off, or they will be taken off by the moderators as they don't want to be seen to facilitating defamation of Adrian's character, or you pay the bill in court.
That is the way this cookie will crumble.
As I said before I am not sure why you got so inflamed for someone having a bit of a random pop at some of your previous claims, after all they were 'ad lib' interpretations of the facts, n'est ce pas?
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From: Brighton. UK. (Via Liverpool).
Guys. I suggest you delete your own posts as you see fit to at this time. I won't do it myself, I will leave it to you to decide what goes.
Come on now, you guys are better than this......
Come on now, you guys are better than this......
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From: Europe
Maybe so Frank. A quick pop I would have lived with as you know I am thick skinned and some of my trawls deserve it. But having a whole thread hijacked to attack me is unjustified. Either his comments go or the whole thread goes, until then they are my views of him and just as his views of me stay so do they.
You can not write those sort of things about someone on this forum just because they have a pop about claims about ratings and experience and them asking about who owns what.
I understand from what you have written on here before yourself that nothing that what Adrian claims is factually incorrect.
What you write though is both insulting and has no basis in facts.
That is not only uncouth but will also land you in deep water.
Not to take them off would be foolhardy.
Your physical punch maybe harder, the pain from continuing your stance will be severe and all yours.
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From: Brighton. UK. (Via Liverpool).
I have been in touch with both involved via PM's and now it is up to them to do their bit.
I will give it a few hours and if nothing is done I will remove all irrelevent posts.
I can't be fairer than that.
I will give it a few hours and if nothing is done I will remove all irrelevent posts.
I can't be fairer than that.
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From: Norfolk
No, leave it all I say - come on, there's no Eastenders on terrestrial television on a Wednesday evening.
Knowing Bose X, I'd have him down as the the suave one from the pop band. Adrian, I see as either the young pretender, Shawn - Tiff's brother - or more possibly a Phil clone.
You guys have made my day.
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Knowing Bose X, I'd have him down as the the suave one from the pop band. Adrian, I see as either the young pretender, Shawn - Tiff's brother - or more possibly a Phil clone.
You guys have made my day.
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