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7 days 2 save the NAC 4 "flying Club" activities!
you got it MU!
The club is to be about flying. The bar is about getting the spirit to fly! the "club" part is about the welcoming people who club together to help develope each others flying knowledge, skills and experience by shareing theirs and co-operating with each other to achieve objectives!
At the moment The NAC club seems seems to have been well and truly Knackered!
I believe it is posible to restart with the spirit of christmas past with new hope for a spirit of christmas future. If it starts now, for the new year, in 12 months a reformed club will be flying high.
If all the people interested in a flying club from Newcastle Airport work pro-activly together to achieve it, it can be done!
The lifeboatmen of Blyth Raised £200,000 in a number of months!
I have faith in the wanabee flyers being able to better that!!!
The administrators have given till the 7th of January to submit initial proposals.
ARE YOU ALL WILLING TO TRY TO WIN YOUR CLUB BACK!!!??????
I am!
Three questions to ask ourselves.
What can be done?
What can we do?
what can I do?
Hope2
Roger
The club is to be about flying. The bar is about getting the spirit to fly! the "club" part is about the welcoming people who club together to help develope each others flying knowledge, skills and experience by shareing theirs and co-operating with each other to achieve objectives!
At the moment The NAC club seems seems to have been well and truly Knackered!
I believe it is posible to restart with the spirit of christmas past with new hope for a spirit of christmas future. If it starts now, for the new year, in 12 months a reformed club will be flying high.
If all the people interested in a flying club from Newcastle Airport work pro-activly together to achieve it, it can be done!
The lifeboatmen of Blyth Raised £200,000 in a number of months!
I have faith in the wanabee flyers being able to better that!!!
The administrators have given till the 7th of January to submit initial proposals.
ARE YOU ALL WILLING TO TRY TO WIN YOUR CLUB BACK!!!??????
I am!
Three questions to ask ourselves.
What can be done?
What can we do?
what can I do?
Hope2
Roger
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Ah, what memories...
A game of pool round the corner from the bar, with all those plaques, trophies, etc on the wall. Can you remember those plaques which told of winners of local air races (usually Jim Denyer), who'd gained their PPL in what year, etc, etc. I wonder what happened to them. The history they told!
From my experience, all the best clubs I ever visited had a thriving social side. Places where, on a weekend, you queue to get served, be it food or beer. Places like Sherburn, Fenland, White Waltham, Popham. The buzz and the chit-chat in the clubhouse was something we visiting Newcastle pilots could only dream of. If only Eshott... come on Storm... oh, I digress! BUT, Newcastle Aeroclub used to be like that, certainly when I first joined in 1992.
Newcastlepilot, I am Sean N, perhaps the one you know. Enlighten me please. I've spoken to aforementioned instructor a few times over the xmas period. He has his own thoughts about the running of the aeroclub, but they are just that. Nothing he feels he can add to this thread.
Happy New Year to everyone.
Sean
A game of pool round the corner from the bar, with all those plaques, trophies, etc on the wall. Can you remember those plaques which told of winners of local air races (usually Jim Denyer), who'd gained their PPL in what year, etc, etc. I wonder what happened to them. The history they told!
From my experience, all the best clubs I ever visited had a thriving social side. Places where, on a weekend, you queue to get served, be it food or beer. Places like Sherburn, Fenland, White Waltham, Popham. The buzz and the chit-chat in the clubhouse was something we visiting Newcastle pilots could only dream of. If only Eshott... come on Storm... oh, I digress! BUT, Newcastle Aeroclub used to be like that, certainly when I first joined in 1992.
Newcastlepilot, I am Sean N, perhaps the one you know. Enlighten me please. I've spoken to aforementioned instructor a few times over the xmas period. He has his own thoughts about the running of the aeroclub, but they are just that. Nothing he feels he can add to this thread.
Happy New Year to everyone.
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Hello All
I read the club related post's with great interest,you all have valid points.
Once this is all sorted can I suggest that some effort is made to bring in the older previous members so they are not left out of things.
With regard to the "elitest/ havemores" Money does not make the man . They are allright once you get to know them.
One thing that is missing is an atmosphere of welcome, anyone walking through the bar doors would feel uncomfortable and this has gone on for a few years.
One last thought, If it was not for Joe Public learning to fly and taking it up as a career who would take us on our jolly's.
Sean :
Mr Quadrini is not "our club " type,money only, he was bought out by a group and that is all they are interested in,,
Regards All
I read the club related post's with great interest,you all have valid points.
Once this is all sorted can I suggest that some effort is made to bring in the older previous members so they are not left out of things.
With regard to the "elitest/ havemores" Money does not make the man . They are allright once you get to know them.
One thing that is missing is an atmosphere of welcome, anyone walking through the bar doors would feel uncomfortable and this has gone on for a few years.
One last thought, If it was not for Joe Public learning to fly and taking it up as a career who would take us on our jolly's.
Sean :
Mr Quadrini is not "our club " type,money only, he was bought out by a group and that is all they are interested in,,
Regards All
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In addition to the debate going on here at pprune, would there be any mileage in all those that are interested, getting together, perhaps at The Wheatsheaf (or whatever it's called now) for an informal get-together and 'chat' ?
I personally don't feel there is anything I can do to help alone, and perhaps there is not a lot we can do as a whole, but who knows? Whether we discuss getting behind any future organisation at Newcastle (and reading some recent posts, would anyone get behind Michael Quadrini, should he be successful?), or starting to think about flying elsewhere (Eshott looks the only viable existing airfield, but what about looking elsewhere?).
Where there's a will...
Just a thought.
Sean
I personally don't feel there is anything I can do to help alone, and perhaps there is not a lot we can do as a whole, but who knows? Whether we discuss getting behind any future organisation at Newcastle (and reading some recent posts, would anyone get behind Michael Quadrini, should he be successful?), or starting to think about flying elsewhere (Eshott looks the only viable existing airfield, but what about looking elsewhere?).
Where there's a will...
Just a thought.
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Quadrini can slide into one of his own cocktails, and I think I echo the sentiments of many as far as that man is concerned - he has NO interest at all in the flying side of things.
I'm with Elia Golfin's proposal 100% and I hope I echo the sentiments of many.
If, and it's a massive IF, MQ is the successful bidder in this lottery then I will never fly or drink at that place again because there will be a total legacy of the old regime running the place - forget it.
I want to see new investment, new aircraft etc etc, not the same old faces ripping the place off, mark my words - that will happen.
Why is everybody so excited about Quadrini anyway, I wish people were as excited when I posted Elia Golfin's initial interest, loyalties obviously lie elsewhere.
Cheers all.
M
Quadrini can slide into one of his own cocktails, and I think I echo the sentiments of many as far as that man is concerned - he has NO interest at all in the flying side of things.
I'm with Elia Golfin's proposal 100% and I hope I echo the sentiments of many.
If, and it's a massive IF, MQ is the successful bidder in this lottery then I will never fly or drink at that place again because there will be a total legacy of the old regime running the place - forget it.
I want to see new investment, new aircraft etc etc, not the same old faces ripping the place off, mark my words - that will happen.
Why is everybody so excited about Quadrini anyway, I wish people were as excited when I posted Elia Golfin's initial interest, loyalties obviously lie elsewhere.
Cheers all.
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I think I must be missing something here.
Topjet - you ask why people are so excited about MQ's interest. I have read nothing since his name cropped up on this thread that suggests they are! Quite the opposite. You also query why people weren't so enthusiastic about Elia's proposals. Well I thought they were. More so. Before the administrators arrived on the scene, people waited with baited breath for the next Elia instalment.
Hold Foxtrot - I see you have edited your post (not the best way to get the 'edit' seen) to include a comment regarding my reminiscing of 'the good ol' days' - socially anyway. At no point did I refer to MQ, nor was I intending to.
We do not need a MQ to make a good club. I have never suggested anything like that!
Sean
Topjet - you ask why people are so excited about MQ's interest. I have read nothing since his name cropped up on this thread that suggests they are! Quite the opposite. You also query why people weren't so enthusiastic about Elia's proposals. Well I thought they were. More so. Before the administrators arrived on the scene, people waited with baited breath for the next Elia instalment.
Hold Foxtrot - I see you have edited your post (not the best way to get the 'edit' seen) to include a comment regarding my reminiscing of 'the good ol' days' - socially anyway. At no point did I refer to MQ, nor was I intending to.
We do not need a MQ to make a good club. I have never suggested anything like that!
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Hi Topjet.
No success with the contact number you gave its alway's switched off.
Could you please enlighten me on the Elia proposal bit that states it is intended to save the flying club for the benifit of members and for them to run it?
or specifically how it is the members best bet for saving the club?
Do the members have anything in writting to confirm their leading role in his proposal?
The opportunity to work with and actively support proposals/bids with the same objective would be welcomed!
cheers
Hope2
No success with the contact number you gave its alway's switched off.
Could you please enlighten me on the Elia proposal bit that states it is intended to save the flying club for the benifit of members and for them to run it?
or specifically how it is the members best bet for saving the club?
Do the members have anything in writting to confirm their leading role in his proposal?
The opportunity to work with and actively support proposals/bids with the same objective would be welcomed!
cheers
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Hi Guys.
Hope 2 Fly.
Keep missing your calls - will catch you eventually, although I am currently laid up in bed with a "36 hour cold"
For your benefit as you aren't a member, Elia Golfin has made a proposal to save our club. He intends to run the club as a business but for the members.
I have had many conversations with Elia and he is horrified at the way the members have been treated in the past and he wants to change that, he wants to bring back the feel good factor and to make the club an exciting place to be, which it was years ago until it was ruined by certain individuals.
I have seen his proposal and I would be correct in saying that it is in the hands of the RMT and contrary to popular belief the RMT do not discuss individual proposals.
newcastlepilot -
harsh words but as Hope 2 Fly is a new PPRUNER I feel it is our duty to help him understand the situation.
Cheers
M
Hope 2 Fly.
Keep missing your calls - will catch you eventually, although I am currently laid up in bed with a "36 hour cold"
For your benefit as you aren't a member, Elia Golfin has made a proposal to save our club. He intends to run the club as a business but for the members.
I have had many conversations with Elia and he is horrified at the way the members have been treated in the past and he wants to change that, he wants to bring back the feel good factor and to make the club an exciting place to be, which it was years ago until it was ruined by certain individuals.
I have seen his proposal and I would be correct in saying that it is in the hands of the RMT and contrary to popular belief the RMT do not discuss individual proposals.
newcastlepilot -
harsh words but as Hope 2 Fly is a new PPRUNER I feel it is our duty to help him understand the situation.Cheers
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Hi All,
Came across this site whilst searching for info on the club.
I was one of the student PPL's who's training was cut short due to the recent events at the club.
I can't really offer much more than my support for what you are all doing here in gathering and sharing your info/experiences since im new to this flying thing.
So I just thought I'd say keep up the good work chaps and I'll be keeping an eye on this thread on a regular basis for developments.
Cheers,
Big Steve
Came across this site whilst searching for info on the club.
I was one of the student PPL's who's training was cut short due to the recent events at the club.
I can't really offer much more than my support for what you are all doing here in gathering and sharing your info/experiences since im new to this flying thing.
So I just thought I'd say keep up the good work chaps and I'll be keeping an eye on this thread on a regular basis for developments.
Cheers,
Big Steve
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Hello Members:
BigSteve: Welcome to the thread!
You can read exactly what has happened here, you will gather who was/is to blame and which direction we are heading.
newcastlepilot will well and truly vet you before being nice to you so please do not be put off by his approach!
It's a pity your training was curtailed although this could recommence very soon, please read postings for updates.
My day was typical of what my posting stated earlier, all I will say is "elite" .... and it wasn't me!
Good Night All
B
BigSteve: Welcome to the thread!
You can read exactly what has happened here, you will gather who was/is to blame and which direction we are heading.
newcastlepilot will well and truly vet you
before being nice to you so please do not be put off by his approach!It's a pity your training was curtailed although this could recommence very soon, please read postings for updates.
My day was typical of what my posting stated earlier, all I will say is "elite" .... and it wasn't me!
Good Night All
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Well said noiseabatement...Everyone is allowed an opinion in this country, that's why our predecessors fought two world wars...to give us that freedom among others.
BigSteve81 & Hope2fly ...I hope we will see you a resurrected Newcastle Aero Club/Flying School soon.
Don't be put off giving your opinions by people who have been members of the club for longer than you, or indeed just because you haven't been a member...sometimes a fresh eye can give us all insights we didn't get because we were too close.
BigSteve81 & Hope2fly ...I hope we will see you a resurrected Newcastle Aero Club/Flying School soon.
Don't be put off giving your opinions by people who have been members of the club for longer than you, or indeed just because you haven't been a member...sometimes a fresh eye can give us all insights we didn't get because we were too close.
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Hi Guys,
Thanks for the welcome!
I wouldn't worry about any 'vetting'. I believe im thick skinned...or is that just fat...anyway back to the message.
I hope to see all you at the resurrected club, I only got the chance to get as far as my second solo so im itching for more, and since I only ever met a few instructors at the club it would be nice to get to know some of the other members...over several beers of course
Big Steve
Thanks for the welcome!
I wouldn't worry about any 'vetting'. I believe im thick skinned...or is that just fat...anyway back to the message.
I hope to see all you at the resurrected club, I only got the chance to get as far as my second solo so im itching for more, and since I only ever met a few instructors at the club it would be nice to get to know some of the other members...over several beers of course
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Hello Members:
newcastlepilot: Nobody is criticising you, people are simply fed up with your one dimensional posts which have provided absolutely NO information on the past, present of likely future of the club.
All you have done from your first post is discredit, belittle and generally pull apart anything anybody has posted.
You obviously decided you were Judge, Jury AND Excecutioner long ago.... unfortunately you are none.
I must ask - are you actually a member yourself?
I must ask - are you a PPL or other license holder?
I wonder reading some of your posts that the tone you sometimes adopt smells of Alan Coulson or one of his cling-ons?
If I am wrong the I will hold my hands up, if I am right then "suck eggs"..
OK, that's today's rant out of the way - only a fwe days and we will know the final outcome - here's hoping!
I offer no apology to newcastlepilot as I felt what I have said should have been said long ago. I believe he TOPJET offered his telephone number to discuss something but obviously newcastlepilot's anonimity is very important.
Thanks.
B
newcastlepilot: Nobody is criticising you, people are simply fed up with your one dimensional posts which have provided absolutely NO information on the past, present of likely future of the club.
All you have done from your first post is discredit, belittle and generally pull apart anything anybody has posted.
You obviously decided you were Judge, Jury AND Excecutioner long ago.... unfortunately you are none.
I must ask - are you actually a member yourself?
I must ask - are you a PPL or other license holder?
I wonder reading some of your posts that the tone you sometimes adopt smells of Alan Coulson or one of his cling-ons?
If I am wrong the I will hold my hands up, if I am right then "suck eggs"..
OK, that's today's rant out of the way - only a fwe days and we will know the final outcome - here's hoping!
I offer no apology to newcastlepilot as I felt what I have said should have been said long ago. I believe he TOPJET offered his telephone number to discuss something but obviously newcastlepilot's anonimity is very important.
Thanks.
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Hi Gang.
BigSteve - I think the vetting mentioned by NOISE was "tongue in cheek" Welcome mate!
Mu Beta - You got pebble-dashing?
newcastlepilot - just read that link re: the email hoaxer, that is one sick person, never thought people like that existed, you here of it but never want to believe it.
Yeh, keep things on the right track here gang, drifting a little (like my approaches), everybody's input, whether member or not can only be good, then the same mistakes may not be made again although I doubt they ever will.
Chins up!
M
BigSteve - I think the vetting mentioned by NOISE was "tongue in cheek"
Welcome mate! Mu Beta - You got pebble-dashing?
newcastlepilot - just read that link re: the email hoaxer, that is one sick person, never thought people like that existed, you here of it but never want to believe it.
Yeh, keep things on the right track here gang, drifting a little (like my approaches), everybody's input, whether member or not can only be good, then the same mistakes may not be made again although I doubt they ever will.
Chins up!
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Newcastlepilot...I'm interested in everyone's opinions, no matter who they are, I may not always agree with them, but sometimes I have found enlightenment in the most unlikely places.
I do not wish to consider anyone an outsider, everyone who wishes to learn to fly at Newcastle is a potential member and I hope those people will contribute their opinions in the hope that we can all gain something from them.
I think if we do manage to fly at Newcastle again it would be a better place if we all listened to others' views in an uncritical manner.
As for pointing out to people that it's a good idea to pull together etc, well the more people who think that way the better...but I don't recall Hope2fly making such a comment.
I do not wish to consider anyone an outsider, everyone who wishes to learn to fly at Newcastle is a potential member and I hope those people will contribute their opinions in the hope that we can all gain something from them.
I think if we do manage to fly at Newcastle again it would be a better place if we all listened to others' views in an uncritical manner.
As for pointing out to people that it's a good idea to pull together etc, well the more people who think that way the better...but I don't recall Hope2fly making such a comment.
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It should be ran as a business in my opinion.
Just because something is run as a business it doesn't mean you will lose the qualities that a club posesses.
M
It should be ran as a business in my opinion.
Just because something is run as a business it doesn't mean you will lose the qualities that a club posesses.
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I agree with Topjet...the club should be run as a business, but with the club member's interests at heart, the two are not mutually exclusive.
Apparently there is an article in today's Journal about the possible take over of the club so I'm off to buy the paper now.
Apparently there is an article in today's Journal about the possible take over of the club so I'm off to buy the paper now.
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Hello Members:
Yes, a business most definately - the problem in the past was that most of the directors thought they were business men adequately suited to running our club when they obviously were not, and with individuals pulling in different directions things lost their shape a little - well, alot really.
That will be the big difference if/when Big Oz takes over, run the place as an efficient business whilst retaining the club/members type operation - easy peasy.
Here's waiting....
B
Yes, a business most definately - the problem in the past was that most of the directors thought they were business men adequately suited to running our club when they obviously were not, and with individuals pulling in different directions things lost their shape a little - well, alot really.
That will be the big difference if/when Big Oz takes over, run the place as an efficient business whilst retaining the club/members type operation - easy peasy.
Here's waiting....
B
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N/castle pilot;- Thanks for the kind/harsh words and advice on posting protocol.
Any feedback i get is welcome - How else will i learn?
Hi Flyiers;- Thanks for the encouragement to post and being open to listening.
I am not a PPl. Have never been a NAC member. To the best of my Knowledge i do not Know anyone who is or has been. I do hope to fly from Newcastle through a true members club,which makes flying affordable and accessable to people from all walks of life, that is also run in a successfull conscientious buisness like manner.
Sorry if my posts appeard to "be telling you how to resurect your club" they were not intended that way. (It dose however appear there is an open invite to any third party to do just that.)
I was directed to this site by a person at NAC office as part of my efforts to communicate with designated leaders of your organisation. Apparently there are none since all directors resigned. I am now simply seeking people with the same objective with a view to contribute and or co-operate to ensure future club type flying from Newcastle.
To that end I expressed an interest to RMT.
I recognise the importance of keeping this thread on track, 30 pages is a lot of reading, so i will endever to keep posts to salient points.
A proposal from me may be considered by RMT. If it is, time will be required to collate the funding. I hope to get some feedback from them later today. After the closing date for submissions a decision will be made on wether I commit time and effort to the successfull proposal, if i am so invited, or simply to share my sugestions with potential future fliers of a renewable NAC and put my Hope to fly back in the realm of wishfull dreams to do before I die!!!!
Cheers
Hope2
Any feedback i get is welcome - How else will i learn?
Hi Flyiers;- Thanks for the encouragement to post and being open to listening.
I am not a PPl. Have never been a NAC member. To the best of my Knowledge i do not Know anyone who is or has been. I do hope to fly from Newcastle through a true members club,which makes flying affordable and accessable to people from all walks of life, that is also run in a successfull conscientious buisness like manner.
Sorry if my posts appeard to "be telling you how to resurect your club" they were not intended that way. (It dose however appear there is an open invite to any third party to do just that.)
I was directed to this site by a person at NAC office as part of my efforts to communicate with designated leaders of your organisation. Apparently there are none since all directors resigned. I am now simply seeking people with the same objective with a view to contribute and or co-operate to ensure future club type flying from Newcastle.
To that end I expressed an interest to RMT.
I recognise the importance of keeping this thread on track, 30 pages is a lot of reading, so i will endever to keep posts to salient points.
A proposal from me may be considered by RMT. If it is, time will be required to collate the funding. I hope to get some feedback from them later today. After the closing date for submissions a decision will be made on wether I commit time and effort to the successfull proposal, if i am so invited, or simply to share my sugestions with potential future fliers of a renewable NAC and put my Hope to fly back in the realm of wishfull dreams to do before I die!!!!
Cheers
Hope2