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Chuchinchow 14th Oct 2010 02:29

"The time has come", the walrus said, "To talk of many things; of shoes and ships and sealing wax, of cabbages and kings", Lewis Carroll may have told us, but I am concerned about more urgent matters.

Try as I may, I have not been able to find a single syllable in the news media about "the" court case being heard in Court 74 at the Royal Courts of Justice.

Can anyone offer an (authoritative) update, please?

TSR2 14th Oct 2010 10:09


Now if that is true, is that a reasonable response from BA?
Looking at it another way, is it unreasonable for an employer to expect an employee to carry out the duties which they are paid to perform?

FORDGT40 14th Oct 2010 10:54

Litebulbs

Now if that is true, is that a reasonable response from BA?
Could be that Tony Woodley asked BA not to deroster Lizanne. After all, Tony has held talks direct with BA without Bassa involvement. Additionaly, I suspect that Woodley would wish to privately acquaint Bassa with the proposed settlement, together with a frank message from Unite.

None of this can happen at a joint meeting in front of BA:)

Diplome 14th Oct 2010 12:59

I didn't even realize that Ms. Malone was flying again.

Snas 14th Oct 2010 13:05


I didn't even realize that Ms. Malone was flying again.
I was going to make the same comment but thought that it might be a bit churlish. As you have dipped your toe in the water however I'll admit to being surprised to hear that she was also.

Betty girl 14th Oct 2010 13:22

I thought she went fit the day before the strike so that she could strike. I seem to remember DH mentioning it in one of his rambles.

notlangley 14th Oct 2010 13:27

Chuchinchow
 
Nothing is scheduled for Court 74 today._ I presume therefore that the hearing is over and we await an unknown time until the Court of Appeal issues its decision.
___________Reference______________ Court Hearings

notlangley 14th Oct 2010 13:31

What's on on Friday
 
Sorry - it was Thursday when I checked.

Snas 14th Oct 2010 13:41


I thought she went fit the day before the strike so that she could strike. I seem to remember DH mentioning it in one of his rambles.
Hmm, odd one that.

Firstly well done her for doing so, lead from the front and all that. First thing I have heard about her that I like.

On the other hand, post strike, you are either able to work or you are not, so why is she not on the sick again? Got better I guess!

Entaxei 14th Oct 2010 16:14

For somebody who is flying again, it brings to mind that old Halloween suggestion .........

'Why don't you grab your broomstick and go tour the world'

:E

wascrew 14th Oct 2010 16:20

decision
 
When decided it should appear here i think

BAILII - Recent Decisions (All cases)


Ref mrs malone

Did she strike?
If so did she loose her staff travel?
If she lost her staff travel how does she commute from lax?
If she didn`t loose her staff travel I wonder which cabin she gets accomodated in?
If she did loose her staff travel and has to buy full fare tickets same question as above.

notlangley 14th Oct 2010 20:33

Thanks wascrew - that is a most useful link.

notlangley 15th Oct 2010 04:44

Long sentences on Four X Website today

Updated Statement - 14th October 2010.

It had been Unite General Secretary, Tony Woodley’s intentions to brief your cabin crew representatives from BASSA and Amicus section tomorrow, Friday 15th October.

Talks continued today with CEO, Willie Walsh and People Director, Tony McCarthy, which involved ACAS and Brendan Barber from the TUC.

These talks will now continue over into tomorrow, as yet we have no details as to their content.

It had been our intention to reopen the website tomorrow, with the full details of these discussions and thus allow people to be able to read them and debate them, with all the information being made available to you.

This cannot now happen as we still have not been given any details, so we have no option but to reopen the website around 2pm tomorrow, without this information.

As soon as these talks conclude and we are briefed by Tony Woodley, we will make the information available to you; but at the moment you know us much as us - nothing.

Thank you for your patience, we can only apologise for the sense of frustration that you must feel.

Let’s ALL keep the faith and an open mind until we are all able to study any offer in detail and then make our minds up at that time._ Please remember this when using the forum which will be closely watched by BA.

notlangley 15th Oct 2010 17:23

I see that crewforum is repaired._ The redirection last week of their URL produced a result that was a look-alike of the BASSA page (I mean a solitary big X)._ However the URL redirection was consistent with an outside attack.
What happened?_ Does anyone have an explanation?_ Was it because of envy/spitefulness or misplaced loyalty?

LD12986 15th Oct 2010 17:38

It may just have been due to the planned countdown to the planned ballot announcement last Sunday and something went awry. Or that all cabin crew fora were taken down in order to avoid any posters prejudicing the Court of Appeal hearing this week.

I do find the fact that BASSA and CC89 have been left completely in the dark on the talks between BA and Unite very odd. Something is definitely up!

Jipperty 15th Oct 2010 17:39

Next Strike
 
I haven't been here in a while and not up to speed with current status on the CC IA, from the lack of press coverage it would appear to be over.

Have just booked for US next week and Singapore in December and wondered what to expect on board? - happy motivated indivduals or the cream of BASSA who I expect will be anything but.

Neptunus Rex 15th Oct 2010 18:05


the cream of BASSA
What a wonderfully ambivalent phrase!

617sqn 15th Oct 2010 19:09

Jipperty
Please read back over the past posts.
I stated that I had flown with very militant crew but they are excellent at their job.This was later backed up by other people.
On the whole BA CC are very professional and do not take their grievance out on the pax.

Litebulbs 15th Oct 2010 20:49

Legal Experts
 
Any legally mined posters have any idea on how Unite are challenging the February ruling? I am guessing that they are exploring custom and practice as an implied term of their contracts.

Any other guesses?

notlangley 16th Oct 2010 13:34

Smooth transition
 
November should be interesting._ There will be the start of the smooth transition from Union joint Secretaries to a single Secretary.

Voting for Unite General Secretary ends 19 November.
This could be before or it could be after Judgement is given in the Court of Appeal.
Declaration of the result of the ballot for the General Secretary of Unite will be made on 24 November.
Derek Simpson retires on 23 December.
Tony Woodley retires "a year later".


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