BA Strike - Your Thoughts & Questions
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The problem is that under the BA Disciplinary procedures agreed with the unions, the company cannot comment until the entire process (including appeals etc) has been exhausted. WW is sticking to his side of the deal.
Some of the alleged 'crimes' would warrant a prison sentence if proved in a court of law. They have been published elsewhere on this site and I don't intend to repeat them.
Anyone who has been sacked has recourse to an Industrial Tribunal, where all of the facts can be made public. Will be interesting to see how the media reports that!
The problem is that under the BA Disciplinary procedures agreed with the unions, the company cannot comment until the entire process (including appeals etc) has been exhausted. WW is sticking to his side of the deal.
Some of the alleged 'crimes' would warrant a prison sentence if proved in a court of law. They have been published elsewhere on this site and I don't intend to repeat them.
Anyone who has been sacked has recourse to an Industrial Tribunal, where all of the facts can be made public. Will be interesting to see how the media reports that!
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ChicoG, that is precisely my point, how is it that these underachievers have, what appears to be, the general publics sympathy. Hmm, by that I mean the prolitariat that take everything that is fed them, in tablets of stone. Examples being, X Factor, Britains got (no) talent et al.
I am truly saddened by what I am witnessing, a once shining light national carrier, reduced to what we witness day by day, with no light at the end of the tunnel. This country is self destructing, thanks to the whims of intellectually challenged no hopers. Time we all woke up to the reality.
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I am truly saddened by what I am witnessing, a once shining light national carrier, reduced to what we witness day by day, with no light at the end of the tunnel. This country is self destructing, thanks to the whims of intellectually challenged no hopers. Time we all woke up to the reality.
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Airclues, indeed it will be interesting to see how it is reported. It has long been a distinct dislike of mine, to have lies reported as spin. There is no distinction as far as I am concencerned. From what I have read so far, those individuals under disciplinaries, have a case to answer. Once again it appears there is a distinction made between the threats and overt intimidation perpetrated by BASSA militants, whereby BASSA have impunity, but, don't dare to challenge them and anyone else. Having said that, I cannot recollect having witnessed any of the above from the non strikers, I stand to be corrected of course.
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Taxes
Obviously it shows how much extra tickets cost for taxes which is a completely different rant for another time
Bought some tickets for my Daughter, Son in Law and Granddaughter in Feb.
MAN-LGW-MCO-LGW-MAN with BA. Cheaper than Virgin MAN direct MCO.
Total £1175. The fare for the three was £400. The rest tax and surcharges.
AND the APD is set to ise to fund MR.Cleggs shopping list according to the press.
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Yes it's Cleggs ambition to do to the British Aviation industry what Jack Straw did for the London dockers. Even if BASSA don't cause BA's demise, the Lib-Dem faction of the colition want to stop all flying to and from this country by taxing it out of existence. But of course, being a millionaire, no doubt he has access to private jets etc. Just another example of left winger's poicy "Don't do as I do, do as I say".
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Well, I asked the questions, got little or no response. I am not permitted to respond on the cabincrew forum, just about says it all ladies and gentlemen, total disinterest other than personal agendas. If that is the way of things, then gawd help all the parties involved. Are you all SO afraid to stand up and be counted. Don't misinterpret what you have just read, I am no union plant, but am guilty of being able to think for myself and voice an opinion. Were it within my remit, I would have already exposed the degenerates that are dragging this company down. So sad to witness the demise of a once wonderful company, due to the intransigence of those unable to think for themselves, but weilding the power, thanks to fear of consequence of those under the heel of diversity,inclusiveness, political correctness, discrimination, et al.
I shall trouble you good people no further.
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I shall trouble you good people no further.
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It was in the press in the last few days. APD to rise (double ?? ) to fund Lib-Dem pledge to raise income tax threshold to £10,000.
For the few who will pay no tax, many more will not be able to travel by air on holiday and hence many in the aviation industry will lose their jobs.
You can of course travel by AMS,CDG, FRA etc and pay less tax but that doesn't help those employed in the aviation industry in the UK. i.e. those trying to keep their airline in business not destroy it.
It was in the press in the last few days. APD to rise (double ?? ) to fund Lib-Dem pledge to raise income tax threshold to £10,000.
For the few who will pay no tax, many more will not be able to travel by air on holiday and hence many in the aviation industry will lose their jobs.
You can of course travel by AMS,CDG, FRA etc and pay less tax but that doesn't help those employed in the aviation industry in the UK. i.e. those trying to keep their airline in business not destroy it.
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Oneye:
Forgive me as I pop in and out while getting ready for dinner guests.
I was not quite aware that I was under a duty to respond to your post within a given time. Your assumptions based upon my world not stopping to tend to your immediate needs says much.
Kind Regards
Forgive me as I pop in and out while getting ready for dinner guests.
I was not quite aware that I was under a duty to respond to your post within a given time. Your assumptions based upon my world not stopping to tend to your immediate needs says much.
Kind Regards
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Oneye:
I apologize for being curt but the questions you posed would take some time to respond to.
I've asked questions here from time to time, or requested a link, and have been absolutely grateful when I've received a response, even if its a day or two later.
...and its Ms.
I apologize for being curt but the questions you posed would take some time to respond to.
I've asked questions here from time to time, or requested a link, and have been absolutely grateful when I've received a response, even if its a day or two later.
...and its Ms.
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I note your gender and acknowledge your reply. I shall stop digging this hole now and wish you well. Perhaps you will see your way, in the fullness of time, to add/ respond to my comments. I do so hope that your dinner guests enjoy their encounter as much as I just have.
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Now that the previous little spat is over & Oneye & Diplome are now life long friends, back to the real story. (Only joking) 
It looks as though even Sky & the Bassa Broadcasting Corperation are losing interest in the morons outside Bedfont FC. At the same time BA are rapidly reinstating a large number of previously cancelled flights. The latest (1600 hrs) update on the BA website is most encouraging.
It seems that we are really entering the end game & BA is on the way to a successful recovery to being a world beater. On the downside I'll miss all the friends I've made on this forum when it closes, it's been most illuminating.
It looks as though even Sky & the Bassa Broadcasting Corperation are losing interest in the morons outside Bedfont FC. At the same time BA are rapidly reinstating a large number of previously cancelled flights. The latest (1600 hrs) update on the BA website is most encouraging.
It seems that we are really entering the end game & BA is on the way to a successful recovery to being a world beater. On the downside I'll miss all the friends I've made on this forum when it closes, it's been most illuminating.
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Thanks very much for the humour inject, appreciated. However, I do not believe for an instant that BA are on the home straight to victory over these underachievers, there are yet a few more twists that this can take, given the peurile mentality of the average Bassa member. Commonsense is not a word recognised within the confines of the 'wrank'(Spelling is correct) and file of the membership of Bassa. Seems to me an indication of how standards within BA have been forced to fall. Gawd forbid that I ever have to be 'served' by one of those surly gargoyles. Upon reflection, I have first hand experience of this, dating not too long ago on a flight ex Jeddah, very close to christmas. No service was available because the 'painted faces' were too busy partyng in the rear galley of the 777 with a 'chosen' few. Ring any bells with anyone I wonder?
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Joking apart, Oneye has the situation well summed up but he did say several messages ago that he was off! Tempted back eh? Nothing like a good chance to air ones grievances at a mob of dsireputable CC in a great airline. This has to be the time for WW to clear out all the dross and restore BA's once proud and deserved reputation.
Oh by the way, Oneye ex Bomber Command here - heavens that dates me!
Oh by the way, Oneye ex Bomber Command here - heavens that dates me!
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No greivances to air buddy, just 'observations' of what seems to have been lost in the morass of knee jerk reactions. The important players appear to have lost sight of the fundamentals here, whether through vested interests or just because they are intellectually challenged. Interesting times, just my 'interpretation' of what has gone before, no axe to grind.
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There is no more place for militancy of the "old kind" in modern society.
A cohabitation between Conservatives and Liberals is enough proof of that.
On the CC thread there is already talk about sneer remarks by a CC who was on strike last time but decided to work this time to a VCC: "Don't give up your day job".....
It explains why WW needs to get rid of the militancy.
During the last strike the cc who were working were commenting on the much improved working atmosphere, the camaraderie on the flights, and that's exactly what BA needs in the long run.
The only ones who are damaging this camaraderie are the militants. Like vermin they have no more place in what is still a great airline.
So i hope the secondary aim of WW (after achieving the much needed cost savings which Bassa flatly refused to negotiate for a year) is to improve the camaraderie of the cc by sacking those militants where he can and not give in.
... one iota
A cohabitation between Conservatives and Liberals is enough proof of that.
On the CC thread there is already talk about sneer remarks by a CC who was on strike last time but decided to work this time to a VCC: "Don't give up your day job".....
It explains why WW needs to get rid of the militancy.
During the last strike the cc who were working were commenting on the much improved working atmosphere, the camaraderie on the flights, and that's exactly what BA needs in the long run.
The only ones who are damaging this camaraderie are the militants. Like vermin they have no more place in what is still a great airline.
So i hope the secondary aim of WW (after achieving the much needed cost savings which Bassa flatly refused to negotiate for a year) is to improve the camaraderie of the cc by sacking those militants where he can and not give in.
... one iota