Being addressed by name.
apaddy,
I thought about whether or not to include the age and orientation points.
I decided that they were valid background points, so I included them in brackets. I certainly did not put them in bold, as you did.
I have no idea why including background points gets you so excited.
The whole point of the e-mail was about service, keen-ness, enthusiasm.
I thought about whether or not to include the age and orientation points.
I decided that they were valid background points, so I included them in brackets. I certainly did not put them in bold, as you did.
I have no idea why including background points gets you so excited.
The whole point of the e-mail was about service, keen-ness, enthusiasm.
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Your correct, I did highlight the gay bit as it was the feature of my post.
You make a point about two very different experiences yet state that they were both gay...so whats the relevance of that? Its not like one was rude cos he was gay and the other wasnt because he was gay! Did we need to know they were gay? There are lots of different types of "gay"! Dont get me wrong, Im far from politically correct in my sense of humour and attitude but it just seemed highly unnecessary and almost offensive in the manner in which you stated it when to be honest, it would have been better if you had left it out!!!
The only impession I was left with was that you have a problem with the ole gays! LOL! But dont worry, I can assure you its not contagious! Hehehe
You make a point about two very different experiences yet state that they were both gay...so whats the relevance of that? Its not like one was rude cos he was gay and the other wasnt because he was gay! Did we need to know they were gay? There are lots of different types of "gay"! Dont get me wrong, Im far from politically correct in my sense of humour and attitude but it just seemed highly unnecessary and almost offensive in the manner in which you stated it when to be honest, it would have been better if you had left it out!!!
The only impession I was left with was that you have a problem with the ole gays! LOL! But dont worry, I can assure you its not contagious! Hehehe
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Interesting point by Paddy.
I guess I don't really care much about stuff like this, unless it is over exaggerated and 'in my face.' e.g. I have taken offence in the past to female CC who sit in the galley slagging off their exes, when I have to listen to it. The same thing with male CC discussing last night's conquest.
The best CC are there when you need them and invisible for the rest of the time; I don;t know how they do it, but it is pretty impressive
Live and let live, I say.
I guess I don't really care much about stuff like this, unless it is over exaggerated and 'in my face.' e.g. I have taken offence in the past to female CC who sit in the galley slagging off their exes, when I have to listen to it. The same thing with male CC discussing last night's conquest.
The best CC are there when you need them and invisible for the rest of the time; I don;t know how they do it, but it is pretty impressive
Live and let live, I say.
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The best CC are there when you need them and invisible for the rest of the time; I don;t know how they do it, but it is pretty impressive
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I have NEVER heard CC (of either gender) talking about their private lives. Perhaps I should get a hearing aid to spice up my life? If I walk into the galley and they are having a private conversation (as any of us do in our work place) they always break off and turn to help. And I mean on that on 99% of the carriers I have used and the exceptions are few and far between and, come to think of it, a long time ago.
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I have NEVER heard CC (of either gender) talking about their private lives
I've never heard anything that was embarassing, confidential, socially awkward, or similar - but really, how bad is it to be talking about your next roster, your search for a good plumber to fix your drains, a friend's wedding, your desire for a holiday somewhere warm soon, the sports results, or the many other harmless things the pax are talking about just next to the crew?
Recently I sat next to a colleague both in the front row opposite the crew and after we got off my colleague commented on the crew seeming to have nothing better to do than talk about other crew, and I had to inform the colleague that at that phase of the flight there's not much else to be doing and she agreed it was harmless after all.
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GSM always called me either 'Sir' or with my boarding pass sometimes by name. Smile was never discretionary.
ryanair usually called me 'sit there!' or 'not these front rows, no'.
I'll miss GSM. But now have to fly/commute with smelly, dirty, day-glo yellow, reclineless 'toot-te-toot' RYR.
ryanair usually called me 'sit there!' or 'not these front rows, no'.
I'll miss GSM. But now have to fly/commute with smelly, dirty, day-glo yellow, reclineless 'toot-te-toot' RYR.
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I do address pax by name, only because BA want me to do it but I don't like it. It's an American thing and it's not natural.
Personally, and I may be old fashioned, but I come from an old well-known English family (Grandad was rather famous!) and am known by a lot of staff in some branches of John Lewis. Their staff call me by name and it makes me cringe with embarrassment - I wish to hell they would stop doing it!
Indeed, on more than one occasion I have shopped elsewhere because I don't want the embarrassment of being fawned over! Americans may love it, but for an eccentric English gentleman it just isn't on!
I am given to understand Germans, Austrians and Swiss find being addressed by name rather intimidating too! In our quaint European way, we expect to be formally introduced before we start addressing each other by name!
Personally, and I may be old fashioned, but I come from an old well-known English family (Grandad was rather famous!) and am known by a lot of staff in some branches of John Lewis. Their staff call me by name and it makes me cringe with embarrassment - I wish to hell they would stop doing it!
Indeed, on more than one occasion I have shopped elsewhere because I don't want the embarrassment of being fawned over! Americans may love it, but for an eccentric English gentleman it just isn't on!
I am given to understand Germans, Austrians and Swiss find being addressed by name rather intimidating too! In our quaint European way, we expect to be formally introduced before we start addressing each other by name!
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I am given to understand Germans, Austrians and Swiss find being addressed by name rather intimidating too!
In our quaint European way, we expect to be formally introduced before we start addressing each other by name!
2 Italian men and 1 Italian woman
2 French men and 1 French woman
2 German men and 1 German woman
2 Greek men and 1 Greek woman
2 English men and 1 English woman
2 Bulgarian men and 1 Bulgarian woman
One month later, the situation is as follows:
One Italian man has killed the other Italian man for the Italian woman.
The two French men and the French woman are living happily together in a menage a trios.
The two German men have a strict weekly schedule of when they alternate with the German woman.
The two Greek men are sleeping with each other and the Greek woman is cleaning and cooking for them.
The Bulgarian men, after looking at the Bulgarian woman, have started swimming.
The two English men are still waiting for someone to come by and formally introduce them to the English woman.
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Personally, even though I'm of the younger generation, when I fly Emirates I like being addressed by name, and the fact that they welcome me back (because I'm on their frequent flier club) is also nice. I think it boils down to personal choice, it's nice not to feel like you are just a number, even though you just are!
Flew back on EK recently (business class) and did not mind being called sir or Mr ****** by the crew. On the reverse side, cabin crew generally have a name badge but generally do cabin crew mind us pax using it as a means of greeting? I find an 'excuse me' is a far better way of starting a conversation / request.
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I'm afraid being called "sir", or an employer who wants me to call somebody "sir" is something I find particularly objectionable.
A subject of Great Britain is only entitled to be addressed as "Sir" if he holds a Royal Commission or Royal Warrant in the Armed Forces or Civilian Services. Other Ranks, of which I was one when I served, are not entitled to be addressed as "Sir" unless decorated by Her Majesty.
Civilians engaged in commerce certainly do not warrant the term "sir".
A subject of Great Britain is only entitled to be addressed as "Sir" if he holds a Royal Commission or Royal Warrant in the Armed Forces or Civilian Services. Other Ranks, of which I was one when I served, are not entitled to be addressed as "Sir" unless decorated by Her Majesty.
Civilians engaged in commerce certainly do not warrant the term "sir".
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From experience with BA/BMI it's a bit hit and miss as to weather you get called by name or nothing at all. I quite like it when the staff discretely pick up your name from your boarding pass at the lounge entrance and hand it back with a friendly 'thank you Mr.***, we'll call you when the flight's boarding'. Then again, I'm perfectly happy if I just get a 'thanks'.
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A story was told to me once about a passenger on the good ol' Lagos from LGW (BA).
An African lady in full national costume refused to sit down. The CC tried again and received the answer "I am a princess, you cannot tell me what to do." The CC (who is gay - this is relevant) replied, "Where I come from they call me a queen. That means I outrank you so sit down!"
I don't know how true this is but it did make me chuckle!
An African lady in full national costume refused to sit down. The CC tried again and received the answer "I am a princess, you cannot tell me what to do." The CC (who is gay - this is relevant) replied, "Where I come from they call me a queen. That means I outrank you so sit down!"
I don't know how true this is but it did make me chuckle!
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Regarding the staff member being addressed by name, personally I really do dislike it, it just doesn't sit right having someone I don't know from Adam using my first name. I guess it's the English in me, that we haven't been introduced thing again.
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A subject of Great Britain is only entitled to be addressed as "Sir" if he holds a Royal Commission or Royal Warrant in the Armed Forces or Civilian Services. Other Ranks, of which I was one when I served, are not entitled to be addressed as "Sir" unless decorated by Her Majesty.
Civilians engaged in commerce certainly do not warrant the term "sir".
Civilians engaged in commerce certainly do not warrant the term "sir".
A knight of the realm is addressed as 'sir' on an honorific basis (quoting either their given name and surname or given name only), whereas the term 'sir' is used as a courtesy title to avoid addressing someone by their name or surname.
Military courtesy is another matter, although a military knight is addressed by his professional title before 'sir.'