BA Cabin Crew Strike Threats (Merged)
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Look at this... is it really a coincidence?
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Within a few hours you got 2 articles linked to BA:
One is about more money (+/- 25M £) that could be invested in Openskies (branch against who BA pilots went on strike
unsuccessfully 
)
Second is of course about the decision of Cabin Crew to strike and stand up to protect their T&C despite the fact that BA is losing tons of Sterlings/day.
Do you think that everything is now set up to launch a new low cost BA (if bankruptcy) using Openskies T&C
That's been seen before guys!
Within a few hours you got 2 articles linked to BA:
One is about more money (+/- 25M £) that could be invested in Openskies (branch against who BA pilots went on strike
unsuccessfully )Second is of course about the decision of Cabin Crew to strike and stand up to protect their T&C
despite the fact that BA is losing tons of Sterlings/day. Do you think that everything is now set up to launch a new low cost BA (if bankruptcy) using Openskies T&C
That's been seen before guys!
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As Tomkins has already said, please remember that there are a lot of crew out there that have not voted for a strike and will be doing their utmost to keep as many services running as possible over the christmas period. I'm working tomorrow and frankly, I'm now dreading it. I know I will be getting abuse from certain areas of the general public, just for wearing the uniform. It happened last time there was a threatened strike and I suspect this time, will be much worse. Please, if any of you are flying in the next couple weeks, do not tar us all with the same brush and if you do get the urge to tell us your version of some "home truths", stop and think first.
As for those that are seemingly gleeful about the possible fall of our airline, you are no better than those that have voted to strike. What about all of us, in all departments, that have worked our socks off to try to make things work? Should we have to lose our jobs too? You are despicable!
I can't believe I'm sitting here, watching all of this all happen again. I just want to cry, but I'm damned if I'll give Unite/BASSA the satisfaction!
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As for those that are seemingly gleeful about the possible fall of our airline, you are no better than those that have voted to strike. What about all of us, in all departments, that have worked our socks off to try to make things work? Should we have to lose our jobs too? You are despicable!
I can't believe I'm sitting here, watching all of this all happen again. I just want to cry, but I'm damned if I'll give Unite/BASSA the satisfaction!
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BA Crew need to open their eyes and ears to the current climate
I understand that the crew have issues with the management, who doesnt from time to time?
But the management of any company are struggling to keep afloat, this is a critical time in the world economy and quite honestly the crew at BA should think more carefully of what their strike action could cause to the airline and British Aviation industry.
I have noticed that on ba.com reservations have stopped for the strike period and travellers will hear further information on their bookings, this is going to have a detrimental affect on the airline especially at such a crucial time. Customers lose faith and book elsewhere, try another product then like it and never go back, its quite simple.
I say bring in contract cc (i know plenty that would be more than willing) and get some of the flights out, as for the striking crew, do they really need or want the job, i doubt it...... let them have the stress of having no job!
It is completely pathetic!!!!
But the management of any company are struggling to keep afloat, this is a critical time in the world economy and quite honestly the crew at BA should think more carefully of what their strike action could cause to the airline and British Aviation industry.
I have noticed that on ba.com reservations have stopped for the strike period and travellers will hear further information on their bookings, this is going to have a detrimental affect on the airline especially at such a crucial time. Customers lose faith and book elsewhere, try another product then like it and never go back, its quite simple.
I say bring in contract cc (i know plenty that would be more than willing) and get some of the flights out, as for the striking crew, do they really need or want the job, i doubt it...... let them have the stress of having no job!
It is completely pathetic!!!!
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Hope this isn't a sign ...
I'm on a redemption ticket in Y traveling back from LAX on 1 January. Went to manage my booking to see what was available - nothing until 16 January. I could also do SFO, but that doesn't seem to be an option.
Sigh. I traveling out on the 21st, and thought I dodged the bullet. If I can't get back, I'm not going out.
Edited: typo
Sigh. I traveling out on the 21st, and thought I dodged the bullet. If I can't get back, I'm not going out.
Edited: typo
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The Union and the Cabin Crew are nuts
"Len McCluskey, assistant general secretary of the Unite union which represents BA staff, said the lengthy strike was designed to have a "maximum impact" on the airline.
"It goes without saying that we have taken this decision to disrupt passengers and customers over the Christmas period with a heavy heart," he told reporters.
"Our message to them (the passengers) is we would like them to be angry with the company."
1. Passengers will be angry at the cabin crew not the Management
2. BA Cabin Crew are rewarded very well when compared to other flag carrier airlines.
3. The strike will cause irreparable damage. Why can't the Cabin Crew see that?
"It goes without saying that we have taken this decision to disrupt passengers and customers over the Christmas period with a heavy heart," he told reporters.
"Our message to them (the passengers) is we would like them to be angry with the company."
1. Passengers will be angry at the cabin crew not the Management
2. BA Cabin Crew are rewarded very well when compared to other flag carrier airlines.
3. The strike will cause irreparable damage. Why can't the Cabin Crew see that?
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Well done BA Cabin Crew
It is about time more airline personnel made a stand on wages and conditions in our industry. We are all on a constant financial slippery slide. Just look at your own terms and conditions. It will get to the stage where it is not worth doing any more.
BA crew have made a tough decision and I would have done the same.
Well done!
BA crew have made a tough decision and I would have done the same.
Well done!
The banks had to be saved otherwise they'd have taken the economy with them. Even an idiot like Mr Brown realises that if BA go under then the world will go on regardless. I didn't see the government stepping in to nationalise Vauxhall and I don't see any sign of them stepping in to rescue Corus. And believe me, the same will be true of BA, because they are NOT a strategic national asset. The taxpayer tolerated bailing out the banks because - directly or indirectly - their own wealth was tied up in them. They will take a very dim view of being made to cough up to keep an ailing airline afloat, especially when they realise how self indulgent the strike is.
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Gov't bail out? Not very likely
There is only a slim chance that the European Commission would permit a bail-out of BA. However it is possible, but have a look at the 'new' Olympics and Alitalias to see the future.
Shop clerks will make more than BA cabin crew under this scenario.
Be careful what you wish for, you may just get it.
Shop clerks will make more than BA cabin crew under this scenario.
Be careful what you wish for, you may just get it.
Controversial, moi?
.....that could be invested in Openskies (branch against who BA pilots went on strike unsuccessfully)
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It doesn't really matter too much now whether or not the strike goes ahead (except to those with bookings, of course). The confidence in our one time flag carrier is no longer there. The favourite airline tag is well buried. The reputation is in tatters. The damage is done......
BA Christmas Cabin Crew Strike
What a total load of gutless wonders you are BA CC, slightly low in the integrity stakes as well. You are really sticking it to the Christmas travelling public again, well done!!!
I don''t need to worry, as I have not touched BA for many years, when I travel these days I prefer a professional & caring airline, who have some consideration for their clients & travelling public.
You really are behaving like a load of spoilt brats as usual, I hope in the end you get all that is comming to you & more!!
I don''t need to worry, as I have not touched BA for many years, when I travel these days I prefer a professional & caring airline, who have some consideration for their clients & travelling public.
You really are behaving like a load of spoilt brats as usual, I hope in the end you get all that is comming to you & more!!
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If you saw the ballot paper (which I did) it said something like, "Will you be prepared to support your union given the threat to your T's and C's?" Clear as mud I reckon.
Just like the X factor the CC will have voted with the majority.........however, the Bassa machine is very clever at bringing the horse to water but it always dies trying to make it drink. Passengers you will get to where you need to go this xmas!
Just like the X factor the CC will have voted with the majority.........however, the Bassa machine is very clever at bringing the horse to water but it always dies trying to make it drink. Passengers you will get to where you need to go this xmas!
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Having seen Willie Walsh and Len whatsisname slug it out on C4 news this evening, I think the situation can be summed up as follows:
- The union are upset about the fact that they weren't consulted about the imposed changes to LHR CC's T&Cs.
- Err that's it.
LGW has already had these T&Cs (identical to what's in the post for LHR as I understand it) for some years already. But apparently that's ok because BASSA negotiated that deal for them. So what it boils down to is that the deal is being imposed rather than negotiated. Well whoop-de-doo Basil... get over yourselves.
- The union are upset about the fact that they weren't consulted about the imposed changes to LHR CC's T&Cs.
- Err that's it.
LGW has already had these T&Cs (identical to what's in the post for LHR as I understand it) for some years already. But apparently that's ok because BASSA negotiated that deal for them. So what it boils down to is that the deal is being imposed rather than negotiated. Well whoop-de-doo Basil... get over yourselves.
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Several CC have called a UK phone in programme saying they are shocked at the 12 day strike.
They did vote for a strike but not 12 days so this has come as a big surprise as they were expecting a one day strike.
They did vote for a strike but not 12 days so this has come as a big surprise as they were expecting a one day strike.
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Getting BA Cabin Crew packages into perspective
Can someone publish the package these people (new hires, 10 years service, 20 years service etc) earn per month, including allowances plus the number of hours they have to WORK each month to earn that income?
In that way I can compare against other airline cabin crew, shop assistants, bar staff and restaurant staff, their salaries and hours. At the moment I am pretty certain BA Cabin Crew have it pretty cushy. Please guide me!
In that way I can compare against other airline cabin crew, shop assistants, bar staff and restaurant staff, their salaries and hours. At the moment I am pretty certain BA Cabin Crew have it pretty cushy. Please guide me!