Ryanair-Questions, comments, bouquets & brickbats (Merged)
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No printer attached...
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Google cutepdf writer. Install the program. When you print you select the "cutepdf" printer and it then prints to a file. You can then print at will later, or forward it by email if you are booking for someone else.
Google cutepdf writer. Install the program. When you print you select the "cutepdf" printer and it then prints to a file. You can then print at will later, or forward it by email if you are booking for someone else.
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Just to clear the whole thing up a bit:
At the airport I work on FR has replaced the traditional check-in desks (except AFIAK for those for non-Schengen or non-EU flights due to the requirement of checking the visas for non-EU citizens) with checkin computer terminals.
If you chose airport checkin you'll got there with your iternerary and your credit card (which you will need for identification purposes). You'll insert your credit card and enter your details (booking number, name etc.). Then the machine will print out a boarding pass. Now, if you have hold luggage, you'll proceed to a luggage drop-off desk (one of the old checkin desks), where some airport employee will take your luggage and tag it, putting a luggage sticker on your boarding pass.
BTW, there is an internet cafe located on the balcony level of the terminal. There you can reprint your boarding pass for as little as 50 Euro cents.
At the airport I work on FR has replaced the traditional check-in desks (except AFIAK for those for non-Schengen or non-EU flights due to the requirement of checking the visas for non-EU citizens) with checkin computer terminals.
If you chose airport checkin you'll got there with your iternerary and your credit card (which you will need for identification purposes). You'll insert your credit card and enter your details (booking number, name etc.). Then the machine will print out a boarding pass. Now, if you have hold luggage, you'll proceed to a luggage drop-off desk (one of the old checkin desks), where some airport employee will take your luggage and tag it, putting a luggage sticker on your boarding pass.
BTW, there is an internet cafe located on the balcony level of the terminal. There you can reprint your boarding pass for as little as 50 Euro cents.
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Good business opportunity here - set up a stall near the Ryanair checkin with a computer, 3G modem for internet link and a printer and charge people €10 to print their boarding pass. It's cheaper than MOL is asking, and provided you're nice to the airport management and give them a cut, you might not get moved on.
Check in desks will probably become fast bag drops.
And no more worring about making it to "check in" on time, ie. turning up 2 hours before the fight to get in a queue. Just show up at the gate in time to board. Honestly i don't see the problem.
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I have just found a way round this.........
Taking into account the £ 5.00 each way online check-inn fee, at the moment book to fly Manchester to Brussels for £ 16.00 return, However should i not want to pay this £ 5.00 i can book on Flybe for £ 137.99 that way I avoid this crazy £ 5 charge.
Problem Solved.
Taking into account the £ 5.00 each way online check-inn fee, at the moment book to fly Manchester to Brussels for £ 16.00 return, However should i not want to pay this £ 5.00 i can book on Flybe for £ 137.99 that way I avoid this crazy £ 5 charge.
Problem Solved.
OK, Ryanair bashers, respond to that!
http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...ml#post4926375
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WhiskeyPapa - I've done a post in a separate thread which I think responds to your challenge
David, I have read your post and digested it, looked on the Ryanair website and also the FLYbe website.....RYR still appears to be £121.99 cheaper for the same dates that Flybe, despite all the forced sells ????
Can you tell me where i am going wrong ???
David, I have read your post and digested it, looked on the Ryanair website and also the FLYbe website.....RYR still appears to be £121.99 cheaper for the same dates that Flybe, despite all the forced sells ????
Can you tell me where i am going wrong ???
ManofMan - I understand that in the specific situation you describe, Ryanair seems to be cheaper than Flybe. I do not dispute your argument from Manchester to Brussels on the dates you have chosen.
However, other consumers may wish to fly between other airports on other dates, and the prices difference between 2 or more airlines may be much much smaller. When the difference is smaller and one airline has a separate mandatory (but non-obvious) check-in fee it becomes much harder for consumers to compare the product offered by the 2 airlines and the price charged. Those posting on PPRuNe are likely to know much about air transport, but the general public are less familiar.
Transparency in business, particularly when focussed around retail consumers is a good thing. When products become harder to compare, we find that people increasingly fail to fully understand the products on offer, make the wrong decisions, buy a product that doesn't match what they actually want and overpay for it at the same time.
However, other consumers may wish to fly between other airports on other dates, and the prices difference between 2 or more airlines may be much much smaller. When the difference is smaller and one airline has a separate mandatory (but non-obvious) check-in fee it becomes much harder for consumers to compare the product offered by the 2 airlines and the price charged. Those posting on PPRuNe are likely to know much about air transport, but the general public are less familiar.
Transparency in business, particularly when focussed around retail consumers is a good thing. When products become harder to compare, we find that people increasingly fail to fully understand the products on offer, make the wrong decisions, buy a product that doesn't match what they actually want and overpay for it at the same time.
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If you read the news release on the FR website carefully, nowhere is there a distinction made between pax travelling with hold luggage and pax travelling without. So I guess I have two questions:
1) Will this £5 online check-in fee apply both to pax travelling with hold baggage and to those travelling without?
2) Will this £5 fee be ALL that hold-baggage pax have to pay? Somehow I doubt it ...
Online check-in, being free as it was, used to be the incentive to travel with only one item of hand baggage. Now though, it seems, even if you've only got cabin baggage, you're being charged £5 for the "privilege" of using your own computer, printer and ink to print off your boarding pass?! Isn't this daylight robbery? I understand that Ryanair, even with all these charges, often work out cheaper than their competitors. I as a consumer, however, object to being so unashamedly ripped off. Wouldn't it be far better PR for Ryanair just to incorporate this charge into their fares rather than (pardon the pun) taking us for a ride?
1) Will this £5 online check-in fee apply both to pax travelling with hold baggage and to those travelling without?
2) Will this £5 fee be ALL that hold-baggage pax have to pay? Somehow I doubt it ...
Online check-in, being free as it was, used to be the incentive to travel with only one item of hand baggage. Now though, it seems, even if you've only got cabin baggage, you're being charged £5 for the "privilege" of using your own computer, printer and ink to print off your boarding pass?! Isn't this daylight robbery? I understand that Ryanair, even with all these charges, often work out cheaper than their competitors. I as a consumer, however, object to being so unashamedly ripped off. Wouldn't it be far better PR for Ryanair just to incorporate this charge into their fares rather than (pardon the pun) taking us for a ride?
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Manofman - The problem is the way in which the prices are displayed.
Using your example route with FR out Fri back Sun - price on the "flight" page of FR shows:
£12.99 out / £6.99 back (£19.98 total). plus tax and fees goes up to £64.53
Next page - add in 1 bag, with online check in - price now £94.53
Pay using VISA - price now £104.53
So, you have to go through 4 pages to get your final cost, which is a differance of £40 higher than that shown on page 1.
Using your example route with FR out Fri back Sun - price on the "flight" page of FR shows:
£12.99 out / £6.99 back (£19.98 total). plus tax and fees goes up to £64.53
Next page - add in 1 bag, with online check in - price now £94.53
Pay using VISA - price now £104.53
So, you have to go through 4 pages to get your final cost, which is a differance of £40 higher than that shown on page 1.
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Manofman - The problem is the way in which the prices are displayed.
Using your example route with FR out Fri back Sun - price on the "flight" page of FR shows:
£12.99 out / £6.99 back (£19.98 total). plus tax and fees goes up to £64.53
Next page - add in 1 bag, with online check in - price now £94.53
Pay using VISA - price now £104.53
So, you have to go through 4 pages to get your final cost, which is a differance of £40 higher than that shown on page
Ahh Grounded, using the same peramiters as you used above i continued on the flybe website and with the 1 bag and the Visa fee thier price rose to £156.45...
Departing
Tue 16 Jun 2009 Depart 06:35 Arrive 09:10 Manchester (MAN) to Brussels (BRU) Fare 26.47 GBP Taxes and Charges 30.50 GBP Seats 0.00 GBP Bags 7.99 GBP Coming back
Thu 18 Jun 2009 Depart 18:50 Arrive 19:25 Brussels (BRU) to Manchester (MAN) Fare 46.47 GBP Taxes and Charges 30.03 GBP Seats 0.00 GBP Bags 7.99 GBP Insurance (inc. IPT tax) 0.00 GBP Car hire GBP Booking Fee 3.00GBP Credit Card Supplement 4.00GBP Discount funded by Loganair 0GBP Total so far (GBP 156.45)
Meanwhile the price on RYR for the same dates is now £56.00, making Flybe £100 more expensive, which i would of course spens on another 2 RYR flights !!!
Using your example route with FR out Fri back Sun - price on the "flight" page of FR shows:
£12.99 out / £6.99 back (£19.98 total). plus tax and fees goes up to £64.53
Next page - add in 1 bag, with online check in - price now £94.53
Pay using VISA - price now £104.53
So, you have to go through 4 pages to get your final cost, which is a differance of £40 higher than that shown on page
Ahh Grounded, using the same peramiters as you used above i continued on the flybe website and with the 1 bag and the Visa fee thier price rose to £156.45...
Departing
Tue 16 Jun 2009 Depart 06:35 Arrive 09:10 Manchester (MAN) to Brussels (BRU) Fare 26.47 GBP Taxes and Charges 30.50 GBP Seats 0.00 GBP Bags 7.99 GBP Coming back
Thu 18 Jun 2009 Depart 18:50 Arrive 19:25 Brussels (BRU) to Manchester (MAN) Fare 46.47 GBP Taxes and Charges 30.03 GBP Seats 0.00 GBP Bags 7.99 GBP Insurance (inc. IPT tax) 0.00 GBP Car hire GBP Booking Fee 3.00GBP Credit Card Supplement 4.00GBP Discount funded by Loganair 0GBP Total so far (GBP 156.45)
Meanwhile the price on RYR for the same dates is now £56.00, making Flybe £100 more expensive, which i would of course spens on another 2 RYR flights !!!
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From today's "The Daily Mash":
RYANAIR URGED TO SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP
LOW-COST airline Ryanair was last night urged to seek professional hel
As the Irish-based carrier unveiled plans to penalise customers £40 for choosing to fly with them, mental health experts said it was now vital that friends of the company stage an immediate intervention.
In a statement released yesterday Ryanair chief executive Michael O'Leary said: "Cock-a-doodle-do! Everyone pay attention. These are my new rules.
"You will print out your own boarding pass and pay me for the privilege of doing so. If you do not have a printer you will pay me £40 for not having one and you will then wear a paper hat that I will make for you. The hat will cost £40.
"You will complete a quest. Probably involving a rare gemstone. You will bring me the gemstone wrapped inside a cheque for £40.
"Luggage is a sin and you will be punished for it. Therefore your holiday will last no longer than 14 minutes. If it does I will kidnap your goldfish and charge you £40 a leg to get it back."
A spokesman for the British Psychiatric Institute said: "Ryanair is no longer something to be hated, it is something to be pitied. It's as if Mr O'Leary has suffered some kind of severe mental trauma. Perhaps he has finally flown on one of his own planes.
"He needs to be sedated, isolated and subjected to a twice-daily programme of powerful electric shocks. If that doesn't work we will have to carve out a hefty chunk of his frontal lobe.
"In the meantime we would urge other airlines to step in and start flying to Ryanair's destinations as soon as possible. For the love of God, please."
RYANAIR URGED TO SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP
LOW-COST airline Ryanair was last night urged to seek professional hel
As the Irish-based carrier unveiled plans to penalise customers £40 for choosing to fly with them, mental health experts said it was now vital that friends of the company stage an immediate intervention.
In a statement released yesterday Ryanair chief executive Michael O'Leary said: "Cock-a-doodle-do! Everyone pay attention. These are my new rules.
"You will print out your own boarding pass and pay me for the privilege of doing so. If you do not have a printer you will pay me £40 for not having one and you will then wear a paper hat that I will make for you. The hat will cost £40.
"You will complete a quest. Probably involving a rare gemstone. You will bring me the gemstone wrapped inside a cheque for £40.
"Luggage is a sin and you will be punished for it. Therefore your holiday will last no longer than 14 minutes. If it does I will kidnap your goldfish and charge you £40 a leg to get it back."
A spokesman for the British Psychiatric Institute said: "Ryanair is no longer something to be hated, it is something to be pitied. It's as if Mr O'Leary has suffered some kind of severe mental trauma. Perhaps he has finally flown on one of his own planes.
"He needs to be sedated, isolated and subjected to a twice-daily programme of powerful electric shocks. If that doesn't work we will have to carve out a hefty chunk of his frontal lobe.
"In the meantime we would urge other airlines to step in and start flying to Ryanair's destinations as soon as possible. For the love of God, please."
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ManofMan and WP
It is quite easy to find dates and routes where one airline is cheaper than another.
London to Malaga out 1 Aug back 15 Aug - pay by VISA, with 1 hold bag and online check-in.
FR = £277.22
Easyjet = £160.88
Pointless excercise - the problem is that ALL airlines should charge a headline price that includes all of the non optional extras.
Check in is not an optional extra - no matter which way you look at it - neither are taxes and fees.
It is quite easy to find dates and routes where one airline is cheaper than another.
London to Malaga out 1 Aug back 15 Aug - pay by VISA, with 1 hold bag and online check-in.
FR = £277.22
Easyjet = £160.88
Pointless excercise - the problem is that ALL airlines should charge a headline price that includes all of the non optional extras.
Check in is not an optional extra - no matter which way you look at it - neither are taxes and fees.
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Online check-in, being free as it was, used to be the incentive to travel with only one item of hand baggage
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...in which case I would fly EasyJet. I do frequently. It's become a game, finding the cheapest flights. Another major factor with Lo Co airlines is when to book - generally earlier the better. I'd bet the FR flight (one per day into Malaga; EJ has 4) has only a few seats left; that's when the prices go through the roof!
If you fly frequently, learn the rules and you can save money. I've aquired a Visa Electron card (free) specifically for booking with Ryanair. I fly (with Mrs WP) 6 return trips a year with FR. That's 24 legs which FR would charge on a credit card at £5.00 each. The Electron card thus saves me £120.00 per annum.
I won't be able to avoid the online check in charge, but I know about it; it's had enough publicity, and if it takes the FR fare above one of thier rivals, I'll vote with my feet.
As I said it's a game.
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...in which case I would fly EasyJet. I do frequently. It's become a game, finding the cheapest flights. Another major factor with Lo Co airlines is when to book - generally earlier the better. I'd bet the FR flight (one per day into Malaga; EJ has 4) has only a few seats left; that's when the prices go through the roof!
If you fly frequently, learn the rules and you can save money. I've aquired a Visa Electron card (free) specifically for booking with Ryanair. I fly (with Mrs WP) 6 return trips a year with FR. That's 24 legs which FR would charge on a credit card at £5.00 each. The Electron card thus saves me £120.00 per annum.
I won't be able to avoid the online check in charge, but I know about it; it's had enough publicity, and if it takes the FR fare above one of thier rivals, I'll vote with my feet.
As I said it's a game.
WP