Supermodel pleads guilty in air rage fracas on BA flight

[Taildragger67]

Doesn't look like she knows, either.

[jammydonut]

What about the Courtney Love incident a few years ago when she carried on in much the same way, only to have Richard giver her free First Class tickets; what message did that send out???

He got a shag

[apaddyinuk]

Originally Posted by boogie-nicey

As for the captain's signed note well that typifies BAs equivalent dellusion that a BA captain is a messenger sent by God. (Why can't BA calm down and rengage with their customer's expectations and stop pretending to be operate BOAC - but that's another matter and I digress).

Unfortunately I think you have all lost the point. The "signed letter" as the article puts it is actually a standard warning letter, much like a Red Card in football which is the final warning the crew need to take heavier action...e.g...the handcuffs!!!
Obviously under the circumstances, the captain cant come out of the flight deck and do the pleasantries himself so he needs to authorise the crew member to issue the final warning before they can get heavy. I can remember not too long ago Dale Winton being issued with one after he through a tantrum cos the crew wouldnt allow him into the First Cabin on the way back from Antigua...that was funny but it also worked and he piped down. Most passengers get the point after that. Its more of an insurance/legal thing really and nothing to do with the fact that the captain thinks hes god. I seriously doubt I would ever see a BA Captain come out of the flight deck to cuff a passenger, they are happy to leave the girls down the back to do that!!!

[overstress]

Here she is looking as she would wish to see her:

As for the captain's signed note well that typifies BAs equivalent dellusion that a BA captain is a messenger sent by God. (Why can't BA calm down and rengage with their customer's expectations and stop pretending to be operate BOAC - but that's another matter and I digress).

What a load of drivel, bogey-nosey . BA is a listed company, therefore it cannot be deluded, however, some of the management are!

BA, for the same reason, cannot 'calm down'. What would you have the Captain do? He was following the 'book' and will have issued the warning card in close consultation with the crew, who are his eyes & ears in the cabin.

[Charles Darwin]

Marzena Kamizela is hardly an international star and a supermodel.
Google found 9 pictures of her, all related to this incident.

[JW411]

I wonder how she got out of Goose Bay? Perhaps she was extradited to Newfoundland?

I reckon she could just about make a living in the Flyers Club in Gander.

[boogie-nicey]

Okay guys, sorry BA isn't deluded and I passed such comment in haste.

However I agree that there needs to be a formulated process for reacting to such events especially when mid-Atlantic and so far from anywhere. Personal responsibility isn't simply checked in at the airport but carried onboard by passengers. I think that people still harbour the view that a plane is somehow 'out of the country' and therefore exempt from legal review not so. When these so called lovies from the celeb world grace us mere plebs with their presence they should also try and restrain themselves from causing an impromptu exhibition which causes distress and annoyance to all the other passengers. How is someone going to feel with this kind of thing going onboard, the small child travelling on their own for the first time, the elderly couple, the family returning after a family bereavemen in another country. The judge (and yes it should be a judge) needs to take that into consideration and STOP allowing these toe-rags from ruining it for the rest of us. When you crack the thin artificial shell of the celeb ego they'll soon get the message but at present I think we are sending out the wrong message that if you're rock and roll then it's okay, no sunshine it's not and if you find me on the same flight acting like this I can assure you it'll be bad day for the celeb.

Many moons ago whilst still at university I worked at the airport during the summer months. I was a nobody working at a small bureau de change in Terminal 1, however came across the usual celeb almost once every shift, MOST of them were fine and actually quite interesting and well behaved but you always came across the most impractical and unrealistic one who was a third rate celeb that would get really aggresive and at times violent. But their achilles heel was always publicity and I was a master at shaming them in public in fornt of numerous passengers and that really kills them like kryptonite to Superman. Some would calm down with this shock tactic but others just couldn't get the message and made a deeper hole for them. But in the end they did it to themselves and I couldn't stand by idly by whilst they attacked or berated my colleagues for no reason.

[WHBM]

Originally Posted by Mike Jenvey

One of the recommendations was that a written warning (Yellow/Red card system) should be passed to the pax in question to avoid any legal issues over recovering costs of diversion, subsequent claims that the pax wasn't notified of the likely action

Have seen these handed out by cc to disruptive pax, unfortunately they were not in the pax's language so a waste of time.

Does Miss Marzipan speak English ?

[palmtree]

original posted by APADDYINUK
"I can remember not too long ago Dale Winton being issued with one after he through a tantrum cos the crew wouldnt allow him into the First Cabin on the way back from Antigua..."

Dont think thats quite right.....it wasnt that they wouldnt allow him into the First cabin but that they COULDNT....there is no First cabin on the ANU route and there hasnt been for years. Obviously its one of those stories where the sardine becomes a whale as it gets retold.....

And while Im on a roll why dosnt PPRUNE get us all to register our licence numbers and state of issue with them. Those who ARE REALLY Pilots could be identified as such. Right now so many on here claim to be oracles of flying fact. Its a pity cos so much info on PPRUNE is good but so much is just rubbish......written often by people who clearly have never seen the flght deck of an aircraft (other than in a photograph)......

[Human Factor]

Dont think thats quite right.....it wasnt that they wouldnt allow him into the First cabin but that they COULDNT....there is no First cabin on the ANU route and there hasnt been for years. Obviously its one of those stories where the sardine becomes a whale as it gets retold.....

Although BA don't sell the "First" product on the ANU routes, occasionally they will operate the service on an aeroplane with a First cabin. When this is the case, more often than not the cabin remains closed, so the whale may be closer to the mark than you think.

[palmtree]

OK Human Factor.....no one likes a smarty pants - especially when they are right!!!!

It could have been what you said. In fact 12 days ago I was on the BA2036 03 May MCO-LGW and exactly that happened. 777 with F/C/Y config substitued for C/Y config. Although I must say I have done the ANU-LGW route zillions (well a lot) of times and never had it happen. Maybe its happening more and more.

I am going to crawl away now and slash my wrists....................forgive me APADDYINUK.....

[apaddyinuk]

Originally Posted by palmtree

original posted by APADDYINUK
Dont think thats quite right.....it wasnt that they wouldnt allow him into the First cabin but that they COULDNT....there is no First cabin on the ANU route and there hasnt been for years. Obviously its one of those stories where the sardine becomes a whale as it gets retold.....

Well Im sorry to burst your bubble Palmtree but I was onboard and indeed there was a first class cabin. It was a BA four class 777 operating a 3 class service (so indeed you are correct in stating that First is not available in this route). First was closed off and we operated a crew member down so under no circumstances were passengers to be checked into the First Cabin. (Sometimes out of LGW they would fill up the First Cabin with passengers who would receive a Club service but this was not to be on this flight). Dale then went into a tantrum childishly calling the CSD insulting names and picking on a number of other crew too. As someone who used to operate the route almost monthly I would say that about 50% of the time this was the case with the First cabin being onboard. This incident happened at the time when the old 2class AML configs were being upgraded to the new 3 class so we also had less high capacity aircraft in operation! Surely as someone who studies BA Timetables Palm you should be aware of this! lol!

But I suppose if you are a non-celeb like him and you hang around Cilla Black all day you are going to pick up a few of her bad habits!

[Engineer]

Looks like she is using the incident to promote her web site. Nice picture of Happy Valley . From the pictures can see why the footballer tried to shag oops sorry tackle her