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Onan, was this the same F*ckwit Churchill who was happy to see Australia languish to the Japs all in order to protect mother England? Just interested, you know 
Folks, the reality is that in many instances you will be asked to provide a CV at interview.
If you front with a 1 page summary, that may not be enough for those that are interviewing. Remember, you have to meet THEIR requirements, not the other way around.
My advice is split it down the middle. Have one of each. When your prospective employer requests it at interview (as they will), ask them if they want the "comprehensive" version or the "concise" version. Simple....
End of story.....P!ss Poor Preparation Prevents P!ss Poor Performance
Folks, the reality is that in many instances you will be asked to provide a CV at interview.
If you front with a 1 page summary, that may not be enough for those that are interviewing. Remember, you have to meet THEIR requirements, not the other way around.
My advice is split it down the middle. Have one of each. When your prospective employer requests it at interview (as they will), ask them if they want the "comprehensive" version or the "concise" version. Simple....
End of story.....P!ss Poor Preparation Prevents P!ss Poor Performance
Better yet, try to get a heads up on what your prospective employer prefers, before putting your presentation together.
As this thread shows, some like lots of detail, some just a bit and some bugga all.
At the end of the day, you're selling yourself.... just like any other product.
So know your market.
As this thread shows, some like lots of detail, some just a bit and some bugga all.
At the end of the day, you're selling yourself.... just like any other product.
So know your market.
3 Cheers to Dogimed for the Python script!
Winston, if you would only be a little less aggressive, people might actually listen to what you have to say.
Are you relatd to Flare Dammit?
Winston, if you would only be a little less aggressive, people might actually listen to what you have to say.
Are you relatd to Flare Dammit?
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hey all ....
after all this debate on the length of a resume/cv (as a uni student studying aviation wanting to get a job sometime after i graduate), could i ask someone to give me an idea of what you - as an employer - would specifically look for in them ...
Other than the name, age, address, etc
For example - experience - for a school/uni leaver - this would include ... ?
Thanks guys ...
after all this debate on the length of a resume/cv (as a uni student studying aviation wanting to get a job sometime after i graduate), could i ask someone to give me an idea of what you - as an employer - would specifically look for in them ...
Other than the name, age, address, etc
For example - experience - for a school/uni leaver - this would include ... ?
Thanks guys ...
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hungry_flygal
Am not an employer but have seen my fair share of cv's/resume's.
After a while of sorting the good from the bad I found myself leaning towards the following qualities:
A one page covering letter followed by a one page CV . The covering letter had the Cp's name rather than "sir or madam".
The most important thing was that the one page was uncluttered. People that tried to fit 3 million different details on the one page ended up in the bin. Why? It was taking me too long to find out if the person had the qualifications fore the job. The first thing I looked for on the CV was Total Time. Some people for some reason thought it best to either hide this or not include it!...in the bin.
From the top most good ones had.
Personal details- licences-ratings-hours-typesflown-employment history (brief)-education (brief)-referees.
Thats just my idea - other ppruners will have other ideas. An interesting thing that I found having to sort through the massive amount of applications was that I found that my own CV needed changes. When I first drew it up (looking for my first job) I thought it was great. I was biased and needed to have the above experience before I eliminated a lot of crap.
Other tips? Don't include your school marks or ATPL percentages.
Referee's? Don't include mates that are in airlines (captains,fo..). Don't include you uncle or mum. Have people that will have an unbiased point of view. Your old boss.... people who have supervised you...
Don't blow your own horn or suck up in your letter. Keep it simple and to the point. This is often a quality an employer will be looking for. The have not got the time to read every word of your life history.
Anyway the best of luck to you- hope this helps.
Am not an employer but have seen my fair share of cv's/resume's.
After a while of sorting the good from the bad I found myself leaning towards the following qualities:
A one page covering letter followed by a one page CV . The covering letter had the Cp's name rather than "sir or madam".
The most important thing was that the one page was uncluttered. People that tried to fit 3 million different details on the one page ended up in the bin. Why? It was taking me too long to find out if the person had the qualifications fore the job. The first thing I looked for on the CV was Total Time. Some people for some reason thought it best to either hide this or not include it!...in the bin.
From the top most good ones had.
Personal details- licences-ratings-hours-typesflown-employment history (brief)-education (brief)-referees.
Thats just my idea - other ppruners will have other ideas. An interesting thing that I found having to sort through the massive amount of applications was that I found that my own CV needed changes. When I first drew it up (looking for my first job) I thought it was great. I was biased and needed to have the above experience before I eliminated a lot of crap.
Other tips? Don't include your school marks or ATPL percentages.
Referee's? Don't include mates that are in airlines (captains,fo..). Don't include you uncle or mum. Have people that will have an unbiased point of view. Your old boss.... people who have supervised you...
Don't blow your own horn or suck up in your letter. Keep it simple and to the point. This is often a quality an employer will be looking for. The have not got the time to read every word of your life history.
Anyway the best of luck to you- hope this helps.
... but my old boss thinks I'm a c~nt! I would hardly call that unbiased!
(he thinks every pilot that has ever worked for him is a c~nt though - he told me himself!)
I actually heard him give a character reference (assasination) for an ex employee (good worker as far as I could tell) over the phone to someone at Cathay. Needless to say the poor sod does not work for Cathay.
No way would I put this amature gynacologist down as a referee!
(he thinks every pilot that has ever worked for him is a c~nt though - he told me himself!)
I actually heard him give a character reference (assasination) for an ex employee (good worker as far as I could tell) over the phone to someone at Cathay. Needless to say the poor sod does not work for Cathay.
No way would I put this amature gynacologist down as a referee!
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when I was flying in "The Straits", we had a resume faxed to us that listed in his Qualifications, "Father is a Qantas Captain". also "Known for being a Team Player" I didn't know they were qualifications. needless to say the resume made its way to the dart board at the Wongai Hotel!!!
