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Old 16th April 2026 | 04:23
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Sydney Basin Airspace and Procedures.

The next AIP has been released.
going to be a wild ride for BK based pilots.
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21st April 2026, 12:47
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Oh Mr Hart, what a mess!

From a (slightly) simpler time.
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From an even simpler time, July 1985. Ah, the memories.



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Paras 5.2 to 5.6, inclusive, of the pending July version of the YSBK FAC refer.
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Old 16th April 2026 | 07:10
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Civil Aviation Safety Authority is seeking industry feedback on a revised proposal to introduce a one-way VFR corridor to the southeast of Bankstown Airport as part of changes to the Sydney control zone

https://www.australianflying.com.au/...t-vfr-corridor



Basically speaking: "Get out and stay out!"
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Old 16th April 2026 | 07:57
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Civil Aviation Safety Authority is seeking industry feedback on a revised proposal to introduce a one-way VFR corridor to the southeast of Bankstown Airport as part of changes to the Sydney control zone

https://www.australianflying.com.au/...t-vfr-corridor



Basically speaking: "Get out and stay out!"
This will be a small mercy. At least it will alleviate some of the outbound.
The RNPs plus the pseudo STARs will make IFR arrivals abominable. Will have OCTA IFR mixing it with visual lanes of entry/exit low level to the north. The designated inbound routes are all “expect to be OCTA”
4500’ OCTA over the hills..
It’s just so bad I dont even know where to start. I went to all the “consultation” meetings too. So it’s not a total surprise but now I have the plates and final maps…sheesh.
VFR will be horrid.
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I have heard high performance high level fm the N will be pushed down to A070 by yakka then octa. Sounds kinda complicated ? What could go wrong ?
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Meanwhile in the USA.........
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Old 20th April 2026 | 10:19
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I have heard high performance high level fm the N will be pushed down to A070 by yakka then octa. Sounds kinda complicated ? What could go wrong ?
Pushing IFR aircraft down and OCTA is unacceptable but seems to be the way of Sydney AsA. Where is CASA in all this?
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I have heard high performance high level fm the N will be pushed down to A070 by yakka then octa. Sounds kinda complicated ? What could go wrong ?
Heard? Have you looked at the AIP? It’s not a rumor.
All performance piston and turbine will be OCTA at 3k or lower with 30+nm to run from nthe north. Overlayed onto the VFR routes to the north.
It’s buckwild crazy. I sat in a room multiple times while this was all hashed out to no avail.

The initial proposal was at least STARs but no that’s too hard and obviously would require IFR in CTA ( crazy concept!) so we will have planned routes instead that have an OCTA requirement that then re-enters CTA to the IAP (D+) with another 3 frequency changes (area, center, bk app, tower) in the space of prob 20nm.
Dumb as a box of hammers.
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Oh Mr Hart, what a mess!

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From a simpler time


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So old aircraft like my Piper Cub without an electrical system will be forbidden to enter Class D due to lack of a transponder?
What happened to the danger area classification of flying training areas? Cannot see anything aside from the parachute ops to the south of Camden.
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Old 21st April 2026 | 10:53
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So old aircraft like my Piper Cub without an electrical system will be forbidden to enter Class D due to lack of a transponder?
What happened to the danger area classification of flying training areas? Cannot see anything aside from the parachute ops to the south of Camden.
D556 A/B and D552 no longer exist.

you will not be allowed to enter class D(+) without a responder.
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Old 21st April 2026 | 12:47
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Originally Posted by Birocracy
Oh Mr Hart, what a mess!

From a (slightly) simpler time.
(The oldest I could readily find, but this one is only about 25 yrs old.)

From an even simpler time, July 1985. Ah, the memories.



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Ah the memories. Back in the days when lighties did touch and goes at ASSY.
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Old 21st April 2026 | 23:24
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Ah the memories. Back in the days when lighties did touch and goes at ASSY.
In 1993-94 I did a PILS at YSSY in a Duchess during training and again for initial issue of my Instrument rating. I might even have done one in a PA28. It was pretty standard back then as the RAAF didn't like to share their toys.
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Old 22nd April 2026 | 01:41
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Not much option for VRF to transit the basin, west of YSCN at 1500 over some questionable terrain, to Penrith, the V1 or through class D across the various lanes.
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Originally Posted by Ultralights2.0
Not much option for VRF to transit the basin, west of YSCN at 1500 over some questionable terrain, to Penrith, the V1 or through class D across the various lanes.
I can't see any way for an OCTA flight through the Sydney basin anymore, except over water at 500 down Victor 1.

Anything else requires clearance through the newfangled Class D or over the Blue Mountains with, at most, 1000' clearance AGL...And as the saying goes... old pilots, bold pilots, yadda yadda. I wouldn't want to fly over that terrain with that little air underneath me.
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Old 30th April 2026 | 03:17
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Bankstown Procedures Changes 9JUL

A lot of changes here. IFR in IMC will be interesting.

https://www.airservicesaustralia.com..._09JUL2026.pdf
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Old 30th April 2026 | 23:15
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Looks like IFR should be pretty much unchanged, other than some new approaches etc. It's the VFR crew that are going to be busy, especially in poor conditions or if unfamiliar (which will be everyone, initially).
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It is interesting that the NSW government is rezoning land around Cherrybrook metro to allow 28 floor apartments - right in the middle of the VFR lane at the ridgetop and maybe 1NM outside the D LL1000, C LL1500 zone. My estimates are that these buildings might reach 900 feet + construction cranes. Now in good weather this might be a useful visual aid but in marginal weather I would not like to living on the 28th floor.
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It is interesting that the NSW government is rezoning land around Cherrybrook metro to allow 28 floor apartments - right in the middle of the VFR lane at the ridgetop and maybe 1NM outside the D LL1000, C LL1500 zone. My estimates are that these buildings might reach 900 feet + construction cranes. Now in good weather this might be a useful visual aid but in marginal weather I would not like to living on the 28th floor.
in marginal weather there should be no VFR traffic on that VFR route now, would there?
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