Pilatus PC-24 Jet - happy customers?
Once you get used to it, it’s very intuitive, and incredibly useful.
Having said that, I remember thinking on the type rating that If I didn’t have the several thousand hours’ experience I already had with those avionics I’m not sure that I would have passed. I felt very sorry for the guys and girls coming from Garmin or Pro-line. It’s a hell of a lot to try to take in cold.
Would have been interesting SP. I was at that CAE Dallas facility a couple of years ago, they where the worst provider I've had to endure!
We are lucky we have benign WX and low volumes of traffic, the States is nuts! -)
i imagine Pilatus went for the QPM to keep weight down? It is very convenient having an APU though of any sort -)
We are lucky we have benign WX and low volumes of traffic, the States is nuts! -)
i imagine Pilatus went for the QPM to keep weight down? It is very convenient having an APU though of any sort -)
When I did it Dallas was the only place in the world you could go for a -24 rating.
They’ve recently commissioned a second sim in Paris.
While it's not a PC24, the Phenom 300E is pretty close to identical in performance and fuel burn, so this is an interesting video to watch to give you an idea of the fuel flows at cruise. Interestingly you can get the Phenom down to 800 pph at 420ish kts which is similar to a Kingair 350 going flat chat at 310 kts.
One interesting thing about the PC24 which I had a look at a few weeks ago was the fit and finish of the skin panels and paint. Absolutely flawless. It looked like the paint on a Bentley. Makes the new Cessna Citations loook like a HQ Holden from the 70's. That is something that non-pilot passengers really notice when they walk up to an aircraft.
One interesting thing about the PC24 which I had a look at a few weeks ago was the fit and finish of the skin panels and paint. Absolutely flawless. It looked like the paint on a Bentley. Makes the new Cessna Citations loook like a HQ Holden from the 70's. That is something that non-pilot passengers really notice when they walk up to an aircraft.
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RCoight- thanks for your views on the jet. I'm enjoying it.
When my previous company first got the A380, We had heaps of probs with the refuelling process, heaps of probs with the OITs and heaps of probs with avionics cooling. All were resolved over time and the 380 was a magnificent jet to fly. Teething problems are natural, and the Swiss mob will fix any niggles sure as shit.
While it's not a PC24, the Phenom 300E is pretty close to identical in performance and fuel burn, so this is an interesting video to watch to give you an idea of the fuel flows at cruise. Interestingly you can get the Phenom down to 800 pph at 420ish kts which is similar to a Kingair 350 going flat chat at 310 kts.
One interesting thing about the PC24 which I had a look at a few weeks ago was the fit and finish of the skin panels and paint. Absolutely flawless. It looked like the paint on a Bentley. Makes the new Cessna Citations loook like a HQ Holden from the 70's. That is something that non-pilot passengers really notice when they walk up to an aircraft.
One interesting thing about the PC24 which I had a look at a few weeks ago was the fit and finish of the skin panels and paint. Absolutely flawless. It looked like the paint on a Bentley. Makes the new Cessna Citations loook like a HQ Holden from the 70's. That is something that non-pilot passengers really notice when they walk up to an aircraft.
While I don't know much about them at all, I believe the Phenom has a little more speed and a little more range, but the -24 has a bigger cabin and better field performance.
You are spot on about the finish and attention to detail. It really is flawless and on another level to other light jets I've seen.
In the -24 we see fuel flows in the 800s during the last part of a long flight at FL450, but not quite right down at 800.
Both are great aircraft for sure, and as long as you go right up high, very efficient.
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That parking spot looks famil in Syd, saw this 'freak' of aviation nature once in the same area, to think the RFDS SE section actually looked into this 'thing' as a replacement for the old Beech! -)
When my previous company first got the A380, We had heaps of probs with the refuelling process, heaps of probs with the OITs and heaps of probs with avionics cooling. All were resolved over time and the 380 was a magnificent jet to fly. Teething problems are natural, and the Swiss mob will fix any niggles sure as shit.
The final product has met or exceeded every performance target. It's a delight to fly, with no vices.
I've done steep turns above FL400 and it's a total yawn.
Ultimately it's great to see several really new aircraft moving the bar of what can be done instead of endlessly thrashing a 50 year old design.
Oh - A380 best aircraft from a passenger perspective I've ever been in. Shame if we won't see them again.
Last edited by rcoight; 29th Aug 2020 at 12:56. Reason: A380 comment
There is, but it’s the same as the -12NG with a few extra features.
Once you get used to it, it’s very intuitive, and incredibly useful.
Having said that, I remember thinking on the type rating that If I didn’t have the several thousand hours’ experience I already had with those avionics I’m not sure that I would have passed. I felt very sorry for the guys and girls coming from Garmin or Pro-line. It’s a hell of a lot to try to take in cold.
Once you get used to it, it’s very intuitive, and incredibly useful.
Having said that, I remember thinking on the type rating that If I didn’t have the several thousand hours’ experience I already had with those avionics I’m not sure that I would have passed. I felt very sorry for the guys and girls coming from Garmin or Pro-line. It’s a hell of a lot to try to take in cold.
189KIAS. Nearjet.
Ask Bloggs for the numbers in the Miracle
Always recall this when humour about ones chariot start being made, not a true story as anyone who knows -71 ops will understand.
