Pilatus PC-24 Jet - happy customers?

[rcoight]

Originally Posted by catseye

Wondering what fuel burn and tas you would be getting at Fl450. no step climb is a good effort.

There are loads of variables, of course. But TAS of 400-410kt and fuel burn of 900-1000 lb/hr total is around the mark for the way we fly it.

This was taken after a max TOW departure and climb from DN direct to FL450. Fuel burn probably around 1000 lb/hr at this point.

[catseye]

Thanks just what I was looking for

[machtuk]

The view of the outback at 45-50K is stunning as 'rcoight'' would know -)

[1290s]

Its as revolutionary as the PC12 was when it came out. A great utility vehicle of the light jet range. Wish it had been available in the 1990s when we were blasting all over outback NSW/QLD.

Perfect aircraft for RFDS (apart from the PC12)!

[The Banjo]

Single pilot at FL450. What is the current reg for wearing oxygen masks?

[rcoight]

Originally Posted by The Banjo

Single pilot at FL450. What is the current reg for wearing oxygen masks?

Not required unless above FL450

[Mumbai Merlin]

Not that we are in USA but FAA regs limit S/P Ops to F410 unless wearing oxygen mask

BUT

a quick donning mask meets the requirements!

[Lead Balloon]

Thanks very much for your posts, rcoight.

[Capn Bloggs]

This was taken after a max TOW departure and climb from DN direct to FL450. Fuel burn probably around 1000 lb/hr at this point.

189KIAS. Nearjet.

[stilton]

Very interesting


It seems like a very good aircraft, in the article I read on it there was a brief description of an ‘APU’ mode on one of the engines that involved it being run below normal idle speed


The writer opined that while useful it would not charge the aircraft battery while being used in that manner

Do you have any more information on that ?

[rcoight]

There is a "Quiet Power Mode" function on the right engine. Two minutes after starting this engine you can put it in QPM mode, which is a slower than normal idle so it acts as a kind of APU. In QPM mode you can use up to 250A of electrical power.
You can put it in that mode before passengers board to heat / cool the cabin and operate some other electrical appliances.

I'm actually not sure if it charges the battery when in this mode (I've never used it other than to observe it working), but I don't see why that would matter - you're not draining the battery while sitting in there in QPM.

[morno]

Can you use it without a pilot having to sit in the cockpit rcoight?

[stilton]

Originally Posted by rcoight

There is a "Quiet Power Mode" function on the right engine. Two minutes after starting this engine you can put it in QPM mode, which is a slower than normal idle so it acts as a kind of APU. In QPM mode you can use up to 250A of electrical power.
You can put it in that mode before passengers board to heat / cool the cabin and operate some other electrical appliances.

I'm actually not sure if it charges the battery when in this mode (I've never used it other than to observe it working), but I don't see why that would matter - you're not draining the battery while sitting in there in QPM.

Thanks for the reply

Do you operate this aircraft into unimproved strips ?

[rcoight]

Originally Posted by morno

Can you use it without a pilot having to sit in the cockpit rcoight?

No. A pilot must be seated at the controls, which probably goes a long way to explaining why I've never used it.

Having said that, a lot of international -24 operators are flying the aircraft two-crew, so in that situation it would be useful.

[rcoight]

Originally Posted by stilton

Thanks for the reply

Do you operate this aircraft into unimproved strips ?

No worries.
We certainly can, and have done so on more than one occasion.
But I haven't personally done that yet. No doubt I will eventually.

[machtuk]

rcoight where did you guys go for the endo? Did you do both multi crew training & SP training?

[rcoight]

Originally Posted by machtuk

rcoight where did you guys go for the endo? Did you do both multi crew training & SP training?

I went to FlightSafety in Dallas for the type rating and the recurrent training a year later.
We did the single-pilot rating, but the split was around 50/50 of people on the course doing single-pilot or multi-crew.

[Capt Fathom]

Re post #21....
There seems like a shed load of stuff going on on that PFD?
I guess you get used to it!

[machtuk]

Originally Posted by rcoight

I went to FlightSafety in Dallas for the type rating and the recurrent training a year later.
We did the single-pilot rating, but the split was around 50/50 of people on the course doing single-pilot or multi-crew.

Would have been interesting SP. I was at that CAE Dallas facility a couple of years ago, they where the worst provider I've had to endure!
We are lucky we have benign WX and low volumes of traffic, the States is nuts! -)
i imagine Pilatus went for the QPM to keep weight down? It is very convenient having an APU though of any sort -)

[Capt Fathom]

We are lucky we have benign WX and low volumes of traffic, the States is nuts! -)

What/why is there a link between the US training provider and our wx?