Is the BOM manipulating temperature records?
Well lets get back to facts here. There has been a series of unexplained changes to weather data by the BOM. The most recent was the Rutherglen data set which were compared with and "homogenized" with data from around 1000 km away.
Well??? hows that??
And back to aviation and the TTF at Adelaide that was wrong 4 years ago and two 737's end up at Mildura with next to no fuel.
BOM fail, but no SR's issued in the "slow to develop" ATSB report.
Well??
Well??? hows that??
And back to aviation and the TTF at Adelaide that was wrong 4 years ago and two 737's end up at Mildura with next to no fuel.
BOM fail, but no SR's issued in the "slow to develop" ATSB report.
Well??
Anyone who has had to deal with raw data knows that it can have all kinds of problems. This holy grail of pristine raw data that needs no management is a pie in the sky dream.
Marohasy is just a fringe nutter. You can safely ignore her and her small army of amateurs.
Berkeley Earth
"...John Theon, retired chief of NASA’s Climate Processes Research Program and responsible for all weather and climate research, testified that “scientists have manipulated the observed data to justify their model results”..."
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/08/...-and-his-hype/
Meanwhile, back in the land of Oz...
RickNRoll, did this "Best project" use the real raw data or the BOM 'adjusted' raw data?..
"...A group of skeptics with some actual brains went ahead and independently rebuilt the temperature record..."
RickNRoll, who were these so-called skeptics - got some names ?
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https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/08/...-and-his-hype/
Meanwhile, back in the land of Oz...
Look up the BEST project. A group of skeptics with some actual brains went ahead and independently rebuilt the temperature record using the same raw data. They came up with the same results the regular climate scientists came up with. Result, BEST called it a day and agreed that the climate is warming. There was no need to continue what is a lot of hard work to come up with the same results as mainstream scientists.
Marohasy is just a fringe nutter. You can safely ignore her and her small army of amateurs.
Marohasy is just a fringe nutter. You can safely ignore her and her small army of amateurs.
"...A group of skeptics with some actual brains went ahead and independently rebuilt the temperature record..."
RickNRoll, who were these so-called skeptics - got some names ?
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FWIW, BOM has been trying to get out of the AWOS business for a long time. Unfortunately, due to the contractural obligations, its is likely not going to happen.
What aviation is saddled with is aging, out of date equipment held together with bandaids hoping they can unload the obligation.
A few airports have gone out on there own and secured 3rd party AWOS systems, especially the mining operations.
What aviation is saddled with is aging, out of date equipment held together with bandaids hoping they can unload the obligation.
A few airports have gone out on there own and secured 3rd party AWOS systems, especially the mining operations.
"...John Theon, retired chief of NASA’s Climate Processes Research Program and responsible for all weather and climate research, testified that “scientists have manipulated the observed data to justify their model results”..."
Meanwhile, back in the land of Oz...
RickNRoll, did this "Best project" use the real raw data or the BOM 'adjusted' raw data?..
"...A group of skeptics with some actual brains went ahead and independently rebuilt the temperature record..."
RickNRoll, who were these so-called skeptics - got some names ?
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/08/...-and-his-hype/
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Meanwhile, back in the land of Oz...
RickNRoll, did this "Best project" use the real raw data or the BOM 'adjusted' raw data?..
"...A group of skeptics with some actual brains went ahead and independently rebuilt the temperature record..."
RickNRoll, who were these so-called skeptics - got some names ?
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/08/...-and-his-hype/
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Don't go down that rabbit hole.
RickNRoll, you have made some fairly 'grandiose' claims. Do you have any substance to back it up?..
Again...
RickNRoll, did this "Best project" use the real raw data or the BOM 'adjusted' raw data?..
"...A group of skeptics with some actual brains went ahead and independently rebuilt the temperature record..."
RickNRoll, who were these so-called skeptics - got any names ?
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Again...
RickNRoll, did this "Best project" use the real raw data or the BOM 'adjusted' raw data?..
"...A group of skeptics with some actual brains went ahead and independently rebuilt the temperature record..."
RickNRoll, who were these so-called skeptics - got any names ?
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RickNRoll made the claims. RickNRoll can provide the excerpts or information to back up the claims.
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Berkeley Earth
Berkeley Earth team members include:
Richard Muller, Founder and Scientific Director
Elizabeth Muller, Founder and Executive Director
Robert Rohde, Lead Scientist
Zeke Hausfather, Scientist
Steven Mosher, Scientist
Saul Perlmutter, Professor of Physics
Arthur Rosenfeld, Professor of Physics, Former California Energy Commissioner
Jonathan Wurtele, Professor of Physics
Will Glaser, Advisor & Board Member
Per Peterson, Advisor
Gina D’Adamo, Executive Assistant
Berkeley Earth
Berkeley Earth team members include:
Richard Muller, Founder and Scientific Director
Elizabeth Muller, Founder and Executive Director
Robert Rohde, Lead Scientist
Zeke Hausfather, Scientist
Steven Mosher, Scientist
Saul Perlmutter, Professor of Physics
Arthur Rosenfeld, Professor of Physics, Former California Energy Commissioner
Jonathan Wurtele, Professor of Physics
Will Glaser, Advisor & Board Member
Per Peterson, Advisor
Gina D’Adamo, Executive Assistant
Meanwhile, an observation on the climate 'industry'.... "...John Theon, retired chief of NASA’s Climate Processes Research Program and responsible for all weather and climate research, testified that “scientists have manipulated the observed data to justify their model results”..."
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/08/...-and-his-hype/
"...Elizabeth Muller is listed as “Founder and Executive Director” of the Berkeley Earth Team along with her father Richard Muller. But since 2008 it appears she’s been earning money as a consultant telling governments how to implement green policies, how to reduce their carbon footprint and how to pick “the right technologies” – presumably meaning the right “Green” technologies..."
http://joannenova.com.au/2012/08/eli...t-consultancy/
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I see a list of people on the climate industry payroll.
"The funding for the project included $150,000 from the Charles G Koch Charitable Foundation, set up by the billionaire US coal magnate and key backer of the climate-sceptic Heartland Institute think tank."
Continuing... I mighta found this skeptic RickNRoll mentioned. Or maybe not...
"...No skeptic I’ve met said that “… carbon dioxide from burning of fossil fuels will prove to be the greatest pollutant of human history. It is likely to have severe and detrimental effects on global climate.” (Richard Muller, 2003). So perhaps he became a skeptic later? Not so much. Richard Muller, 2008: “There is a consensus that global warming is real. …it’s going to get much, much worse.”
The defining mark of a skeptic is that they never believe simply because there is a “consensus”..."
Muller-the-pretend-skeptic makes three claims. He?s half right on one. « JoNova
Nice little earner Muller and Muller have going here: http://mullerandassociates.com/our-team/
Using the BEST project to back up the BOM claims is looking a bit tenuous eh..
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Perhaps chuboy can point out these so-called 'skeptics' that RickNRoll alluded to..
It is interesting when you take a look at the people involved in the BEST project and then have a look at the names involved in the Muller & Associates company: Our Team | Muller & Associates. How many are Listed on both sites... five, six.......
So this little diversion to the BEST project has shown us the climate 'industry' write large..
Also, the BEST project did not do any audit or due diligence of the BOM temp records so it is a bit silly to attempt to use it as a device to somehow validate the BOM temperature records.
So back to the thread subject...
"Bush meteorologist Lance Pidgeon had hard evidence it was cold near Goulburn in the early hours of July 2 this year because his cold water pipes froze, bursting in the wall and breaking the toilet.
To be certain, Pidgeon checked the Bureau of Meteorology (BoM) website and saw the temperature had plunged to minus 10.4C.
“But then I saw something truly bizarre,” Pidgeon says. The temperature recording on BoM’s website adjusted itself to minus 10C and then disappeared from view..."
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/08/...-inaccuracies/
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You feeling okay binghi? Your posts are even less coherent than usual.
The BEST study represents everything a true skeptic should appreciate. You have really had to scrape the bottom of the barrel in an attempt to convince yourself the conclusions of their study are meaningless.
There are none so blind as those who cannot see!
The BEST study represents everything a true skeptic should appreciate. You have really had to scrape the bottom of the barrel in an attempt to convince yourself the conclusions of their study are meaningless.
There are none so blind as those who cannot see!
You feeling okay binghi? Your posts are even less coherent than usual.
The BEST study represents everything a true skeptic should appreciate. You have really had to scrape the bottom of the barrel in an attempt to convince yourself the conclusions of their study are meaningless.
There are none so blind as those who cannot see!
The BEST study represents everything a true skeptic should appreciate. You have really had to scrape the bottom of the barrel in an attempt to convince yourself the conclusions of their study are meaningless.
There are none so blind as those who cannot see!
I'm still waiting to see from RickNRoll how the BEST project actually relates to the corruption displayed by the Australian BOM. Were the BOM/CSIRO met records actually audited by the BEST project. If not, it is irelavent to this thread - perhaps a diversion of desperation..
The Australian BOM corruption has even got the attention of President Trumps main news source:
"...The BOM has now been shamed by media investigations into ordering a review of its procedures. But it has yet to provide an explanation as to why it made these “adjustments” in the first place.
These “adjustments” seem to go only one way. The BOM is perfectly happy to record and announce it whenever Australia’s temperatures hit record-breaking highs. But when the temperatures reach new lows it’s a different matter altogether.
For some strange reason that the BOM has been unable to explain, when temperatures go below a certain point it either deletes them as if they had never been – or it enters them into its records at higher temperature than the one actually recorded by its thermometers..."
Delingpole: Australia's Bureau of Meteorology Caught Erasing Record Low Temperatures
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For the benefit of the Climate Change Skeptics and Chemtrail Crazies:
'It Was Like a Cult': Leaving the World of Online Conspiracy Theories
'It Was Like a Cult': Leaving the World of Online Conspiracy Theories
For the benefit of the Climate Change Skeptics and Chemtrail Crazies:
'It Was Like a Cult': Leaving the World of Online Conspiracy Theories
'It Was Like a Cult': Leaving the World of Online Conspiracy Theories
To quote Robert Heinlein
"A touchstone to determine the actual worth of an "intellectual" - find out how he feels about astrology."
But then again, to someone who thinks that precision scientific instruments can be found in Bunnings for circa $100 bucks, I suppose anything is believable.
I can see why you wouldn't want to take sites that include any references to astrology seriously, so anything published by news.com.au, https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/horoscopes like the Daily Telegraph No Cookies | Daily Telegraph and Courier Mail No Cookies | The Courier Mail can be ruled out on the same grounds. Good to know.
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What I want to know is where the hell all this bloody CO2 came from and who's responsible?
Are we importing it from Mars or somewhere? Bloody Martians, always thought they were shifty.
Are we importing it from Mars or somewhere? Bloody Martians, always thought they were shifty.