King Air down at Essendon?
KADS crash: diverging left very shortly after liftoff.
YMEN crash: very similar.
YMEN crash: very similar.
Join Date: Sep 1998
Location: The Swan Downunder
Posts: 1,069
Likes: 0
Received 21 Likes
on
11 Posts
In answer to the question, the higher the airspeed the greater the rudder load, Whether it be one engine at flight idle or full opposite rudder trim at takeoff power and 140 knots will require full opposite rudder, in my opinion holding that load on one leg without full rudder trim in the correct sense would cause muscle fatigue and failure in about 30 seconds. For a V1 cut excercise, 95kts, requires full opposite rudder, without rudder trim, I doubt your leg would make it to 140kts.
Thanks Xeptu.
Join Date: Sep 1998
Location: The Swan Downunder
Posts: 1,069
Likes: 0
Received 21 Likes
on
11 Posts
Your welcome. Be aware there will be differences of opinion. I'm a 20.7.1b person and use claytons for takeoff performance procedure and terrain clearance departure procedures. Those that have had no exposure or knowledge of that will have a different technique more akin to the normal cat procedures, yes I know those terms have changed, I'm old.
Unless you are briefed by those in the know while climbing to 400ft at V2, it takes quite a few times to get your head around "it's ok you can relax your leg now the rudder pedal will stay there. it buffets a bit and it's a weird un-natural feeling. Rudder boost in all cases is nothing more than a stand on this one.
Unless you are briefed by those in the know while climbing to 400ft at V2, it takes quite a few times to get your head around "it's ok you can relax your leg now the rudder pedal will stay there. it buffets a bit and it's a weird un-natural feeling. Rudder boost in all cases is nothing more than a stand on this one.
Not sure if you’ll be able to read this behind the paywall:
https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...16-p5dojv.html
Seems the airport owner allegedly didn’t follow guidelines when building a shopping centre next to the runway. Who would have thought?
https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...16-p5dojv.html
Seems the airport owner allegedly didn’t follow guidelines when building a shopping centre next to the runway. Who would have thought?
The ATSB investigation details a 2003 email it uncovered, in which an Essendon Airport management officer advised that CASA had agreed verbally to the airport applying a strip width of 180 metres rather than 300 metres.
“This should open up about 36,000 square metres of new land for development,” the email says.
Essendon Airport relied heavily on a letter from a CASA officer confirming that interpretation a month later, but CASA told the ATSB investigation that advice was wrong and had no legal validity.
It appears that the only way in which to have confidence that anything written by any CASA officer is CASA’s position is to write to the CEO and seek confirmation that the CEO acknowledges and accepts that what the CASA officer said is CASA’s position.
The following users liked this post:
Not sure if you’ll be able to read this behind the paywall:
https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...16-p5dojv.html
Seems the airport owner allegedly didn’t follow guidelines when building a shopping centre next to the runway. Who would have thought?
https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...16-p5dojv.html
Seems the airport owner allegedly didn’t follow guidelines when building a shopping centre next to the runway. Who would have thought?
If a heavier bizjet plows into the shopping centre and kills a dozen or two seeking some retail therapy, Essendon Airport will close overnight. It will briefly open for ferry flight take-offs only. CASA will claim to have eliminated the risk.
The developers will circle like sharks, hangars will become trendy apartments, and the runways will make very convenient parking areas for new high rise buildings.
How to destroy valuable aviation infrastructure 101.
Last edited by Mach E Avelli; 19th Jul 2023 at 01:44.
The following users liked this post:
There are two sets of rules. One for some and one for the others. In regard to Essendon it would appear that the development extended far beyond the original boundary from the runway.
By the time anyone realised what was going on it was too late to pull the concrete up.
R
By the time anyone realised what was going on it was too late to pull the concrete up.
R
The airport owner (and CASA, if implicated) will argue that the buildings had no influence on the outcome of the King Air crash. In this particular case they would be right, but it was sheer luck that no one was there on the ground to get hurt.
If a heavier bizjet plows into the shopping centre and kills a dozen or two seeking some retail therapy, Essendon Airport will close overnight. It will briefly open for ferry flight take-offs only. CASA will claim to have eliminated the risk.
The developers will circle like sharks, hangars will become trendy apartments, and the runways will make very convenient parking areas for new high rise buildings.
How to destroy valuable aviation infrastructure 101.
If a heavier bizjet plows into the shopping centre and kills a dozen or two seeking some retail therapy, Essendon Airport will close overnight. It will briefly open for ferry flight take-offs only. CASA will claim to have eliminated the risk.
The developers will circle like sharks, hangars will become trendy apartments, and the runways will make very convenient parking areas for new high rise buildings.
How to destroy valuable aviation infrastructure 101.