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You probably won't find it. It's been hushed up for such a long time. It's not widely known and they don't won't you to know the truth. Bit like global warm. Proved it was so then they changed the name. Funny how many places in Australia have had the coldest days since records began this year
A few numbers relating to Wattle Point wind farm at Edithburg SA.
55 x 1.65 mW turbines
each turbine powers approx 945 houses
Each Nacelle weighs in at 51 Tons
The foundations each contain 210 cu/m of 504 Tons of concrete
Each foundation contains 20 Tons of reinforcing
The farm produces 2% of SA's electricity
The farm cost $165M to build
Design life of 25 years
So $127 per house/per year
Tip speed of blade is 222Klm/h
This info came from a pic I took of the data plate, so sorry no link.
Personally I thought they looked fantastic.
55 x 1.65 mW turbines
each turbine powers approx 945 houses
Each Nacelle weighs in at 51 Tons
The foundations each contain 210 cu/m of 504 Tons of concrete
Each foundation contains 20 Tons of reinforcing
The farm produces 2% of SA's electricity
The farm cost $165M to build
Design life of 25 years
So $127 per house/per year
Tip speed of blade is 222Klm/h
This info came from a pic I took of the data plate, so sorry no link.
Personally I thought they looked fantastic.
via Lantern10:
A few numbers relating to Wattle Point wind farm at Edithburg SA.
55 x 1.65 mW turbines
each turbine powers approx 945 houses
Each Nacelle weighs in at 51 Tons
The foundations each contain 210 cu/m of 504 Tons of concrete
Each foundation contains 20 Tons of reinforcing
The farm produces 2% of SA's electricity
The farm cost $165M to build
Design life of 25 years
So $127 per house/per year
Tip speed of blade is 222Klm/h
This info...
A few numbers relating to Wattle Point wind farm at Edithburg SA.
55 x 1.65 mW turbines
each turbine powers approx 945 houses
Each Nacelle weighs in at 51 Tons
The foundations each contain 210 cu/m of 504 Tons of concrete
Each foundation contains 20 Tons of reinforcing
The farm produces 2% of SA's electricity
The farm cost $165M to build
Design life of 25 years
So $127 per house/per year
Tip speed of blade is 222Klm/h
This info...
A coal fired power station dont need any other power source to back it up so if yer were to 'cost' it, thats all.
On the other hand, solar or wind power needs a coal fired, or equivalent, back up running at all times, and not very efficiently as a back up, to ensure we actualy have power when we need it. There is allso the the cost of the extra power lines to factor in.
So tell us Lantern10, are these extra 'costs' factored into that $127 per house..
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You probably won't find it. It's been hushed up for such a long time. It's not widely known and they don't won't you to know the truth. Bit like global warm. Proved it was so then they changed the name. Funny how many places in Australia have had the coldest days since records began this year
Yr Right
I don't do this often but I am going to say BS to your post unless you show a link to back up your argument.
They say Aussie are the biggest users. Why is this. This is fact. They place all we export onto us. That means all that is sent to China India Japan they burn it we wear the cost. Didn't know that did you.
IF they place all the export onto us, then that means the companies that export would have to buy credits or off sets and highly likely make one hell of a lot of them uneconomical propositions.
Which means that all the Annual reports for Woodside et al would be full of it, as would the business pages, as would the Gov't web sites.
I'll await your proof and if you provide it, I am happy to say I was wrong.
BTW1 - I am no friend of the Greens and the BS they sprout and would prefer to use them as fertilizer if we could.
BTW2 - I still don't get why you drove across Aus because of a tool box ??????
Wasn't trying to make points for or against. Just wanted to give you SOME of the numbers involved.
But only when the wind is blowing
Of course only when the wind is blowing!
What 500 tons of concrete say it Arnt so
Well that's what it said on the box it came in.
But only when the wind is blowing
Of course only when the wind is blowing!
What 500 tons of concrete say it Arnt so
Well that's what it said on the box it came in.
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The reason Yr Right said about the 500 tons is because he said in post #106 that the foundations used "500 tons, give or take".
All these wind farms state such huge figures, be it houses powered, MW generated but very rarely if at all do they ever produce that amount.
Just look at the Graphs on the link provided by me on the previous page and again by someone else above. NONE of the wind farms generate much power and the average over all of them is pathetic.
The reason Yr Right said about the 500 tons is because he said in post #106 that the foundations used "500 tons, give or take".
All these wind farms state such huge figures, be it houses powered, MW generated but very rarely if at all do they ever produce that amount.
Just look at the Graphs on the link provided by me on the previous page and again by someone else above. NONE of the wind farms generate much power and the average over all of them is pathetic.
Has anyone seen any sort of "exit-strategy" for wind-farms when they reach the end of their service-life?
The companies which erected them will have long since ceased to exist, and the energy-provider who harvests the output will most likely have a clause written into the contract absolving them from the expense and inconvenience of dismantling them and recycling whatever is recyclable (quite a bit of copper in the windings and armatures, for a start).
I'd be interested to now if anyone is thinking that far ahead. A nascent industry, perhaps?
The companies which erected them will have long since ceased to exist, and the energy-provider who harvests the output will most likely have a clause written into the contract absolving them from the expense and inconvenience of dismantling them and recycling whatever is recyclable (quite a bit of copper in the windings and armatures, for a start).
I'd be interested to now if anyone is thinking that far ahead. A nascent industry, perhaps?
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Don't forget the rehabilitation if the ground to ensure no future erosion.
All the ground a round wind farms has been severely damaged already.
All the ground a round wind farms has been severely damaged already.
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Yes that's been look at as well when and if that see the life to the end of the service life. Good chance they won't make it though the oil in these units they have a lot of trouble with. That's why they catch fire.
Has anyone seen any lights on them yet ?
Has anyone seen any lights on them yet ?
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Yr right.
Re lights, the ones you pass coming out of sydney near the hills, canberra area have lights on them.
500 tons of concrete ? - blow it up to fracture it
Re lights, the ones you pass coming out of sydney near the hills, canberra area have lights on them.
500 tons of concrete ? - blow it up to fracture it
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We'll believe this or not. If you won't to find it it's in the court documents. The mast at crookwell Arnt lighted due to the cost of looking after them. In direct contravention of the casa reqs. That's fact.
In regards to c02 emissions due you really expect to be told the truth about that by the government.
Now look at the worlds population. Now look at us. We are nothing. If we stop tomorrow we won't make a spec of difference.
Now I'm not saying we should just waste but I'm
Sure as f$&@ not happy about the waste to support something that don't work toke a few people look good. Like I've said before fix our hospitals and roads. If these things can't support them selfs why have them. If they work great but they don't. They divide the community's they enter. Let's see them down the coast from Sydney to the Wollongong. All in the national park as we'll.
Let's share the pain.
In regards to c02 emissions due you really expect to be told the truth about that by the government.
Now look at the worlds population. Now look at us. We are nothing. If we stop tomorrow we won't make a spec of difference.
Now I'm not saying we should just waste but I'm
Sure as f$&@ not happy about the waste to support something that don't work toke a few people look good. Like I've said before fix our hospitals and roads. If these things can't support them selfs why have them. If they work great but they don't. They divide the community's they enter. Let's see them down the coast from Sydney to the Wollongong. All in the national park as we'll.
Let's share the pain.
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Re "The mast at crookwell Arnt lighted due to the cost of looking after them."
My bad, you are correct. The radio mast that is right next to he turbines and stands much higher than them by quite a bit is lit up with two white lights.
Bugger lets share the pain, stick them al in the greenies back yard.
They want green power, let them suffer.
Re "The mast at crookwell Arnt lighted due to the cost of looking after them."
My bad, you are correct. The radio mast that is right next to he turbines and stands much higher than them by quite a bit is lit up with two white lights.
Bugger lets share the pain, stick them al in the greenies back yard.
They want green power, let them suffer.
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Has anyone seen any sort of "exit-strategy" for wind-farms when they reach the end of their service-life?
and is still lying in the paddock in a tangled rusty mess today...