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Old 31st Aug 2014, 10:55
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Creampuff asked:


"Who needs to fly that low that close to an airstrip, in non VMC?"


Only VFR pilots who aren't afraid of killing themselves and their passengers!
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Old 31st Aug 2014, 11:05
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Like I said. Rfs will not allow ANY Aireral aerial fire work to be carries out if any turbines are spinning in the course of putting out bush fires.
Need any thing more be said. Of course none of you have ever got caught out by weather have you.
Yep f$&@ you all they not in out in our back yards.
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Old 31st Aug 2014, 11:28
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Aerial firefighting is conducted by day, VFR.

After a diligent search I couldn't find one example of a wind turbine buried deep in the bush. They are all on open land, perhaps a grass fire may erupt?

Given the amount of space squired you must have one f£ck off huge backyard yr right.
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Old 31st Aug 2014, 11:30
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yr right,


That's one of your more cryptic offerings. But I'll attempt to address it.


I'm a great supporter of renewable energy including wind, solar and wave. So I have no problems with wind farms. As Desert Flower mentioned, there are quite a few in the Mid North's of S.A. And those ones are very productive being on the top of hills facing West.


RFS / CFA / CFS probably know phone numbers to ring if they really are concerned about having a wind farm's propellers parked...


Caught out in bad wx? Only once!
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Of course none of you have ever got caught out by weather have you.
Well, yes, I have been caught in bad weather. Did I not say that?

It's hardly unique. You don't exist VFR for more than a few thousand hours without being caught out by weather. Last light too, if you're as careless as me. (Which you all are, admit it now. )

It's what you do about it that sorts out the men from the boys from the cadavers.

People who scud run to solve the problem are soon late.

Give it a rest man.
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Old 31st Aug 2014, 11:59
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I got cought out doing a scud run into Coober Pedy once due to unexpected weather. Followed the highway into town from the northwest at 500' I flew next to one of those propeller thingies I swear I could almost touch it with my wingtips. They are way too close to the airport.
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Yr right,

I am calling flat out bulls#£! On your claim about the RFS and wind farms. I called a mate of mine who works in aviation support branch on the NSW RFS, (thanks Pogo!) and asked him, and he says they are treated exactly the same as any tower or HT poweline of similar height.

You are a liar, black and white.
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Like I said. Rfs will not allow ANY Aireral aerial fire work to be carries out if any turbines are spinning in the course of putting out bush fires.
Need any thing more be said. Of course none of you have ever got caught out by weather have you.
Yep f$&@ you all they not in out in our back yards.
Apparently a fair bit more does need to be said, according to the info from RatsoreA. BTW thanks for "f$&@ you all" comment as well

Probably best do everyone a favour and just stop posting mate
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Old 31st Aug 2014, 12:31
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yr right,

14 years of dedicated low level flying I reckon I have covered pretty much every itteration of low level bump, can't believe for a moment these things present significant downwind turbulence.

The RFS do many a strange thing often based on a CYA attitude, this follows those principals.

20,000 hours....meh, I've nearly got that many and I'm one of the dumbest people I've ever met.
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Old 31st Aug 2014, 13:25
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Originally Posted by yr right
Humpty Dumpty at it again nothing to say about nothing useful.
Dude, honestly, give it a spell.

You come on here claiming that you know everything about everything, yet you can't put two words together in a legible sentence. And the words you do write (after being decoded by the boffins at Bletchley Park) are still garbage.

If you must know (and I know this is harsh, but it has to be said), anything you write is considered absolute rubbish by anyone with an IQ > 50, and quite frankly, you are a bit of a joke. It's like listening to a 12 year old trying to claim respect. You've shown nothing.
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Old 31st Aug 2014, 14:03
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In order of dislike, highest to lowest:

Fracking: The most disgraceful & destructive of energy sources.
Coal: The filthiest & most archaic of energy sources.
Wind turbines: As ugly as coal mines, I really don't like them.........but they're clean I guess

In order of like, highest to lowest:

Avgas: I'm sorry, but it produces cool noise.
JetA1: Because burning it smells great & it produces cool noise. It would be number one except I can't afford anything that burns it.
Solar: Because it's awesome.
Nuclear: I'll put my money where my mouth is if it rids us of fracking & coal until solar is the real deal.

Sorry about the thread drift, but it was either that or abuse yr right
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Old 31st Aug 2014, 23:21
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Still can't get rid of nuclear waste beside burying it for thousands of years, that is why we shouldn't use nuclear. Ask the Japs how safe it is.
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Old 31st Aug 2014, 23:25
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Ask the Japs how safe it is.
You don't build any type of power station on a fault line or where they may be subject to inundation.
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I would bury the ****........reeaaal deep.

I wouldn't built a nuclear plant on a fault line.

It would be temporary until solar is the real deal.
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Old 31st Aug 2014, 23:55
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Solar and wind farms. Contains a reference to aviation.

The only unlimited source of energy on the planet is stupidity. Shortly scientists will be able to convert stupidity to clean fuel. This discovery will eclipse the need to use any other form of power generation and is fully renewable. The government hasn't figured out a way to tax it yet and this is the biggest impediment to its implementation. Regulating stupidity hasn't worked, ask CAsA.
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Old 1st Sep 2014, 00:16
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Old 1st Sep 2014, 02:30
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yr right,

Out of genuine interest and concern for your passion bout the topic,
Or maybe you all live in the city and don't give a dam about anyone else cause it's not in your back yard.
I do live in a city, Brisbane to be precise but I do spend a lot of time in the country.

So with your experience, and clearly you do have a lot here, roughly where do you live and what is the effect you are subject to? I do not mean for you to be specific, as in street and town, but is it rural Qld, rural NSW, Rural WA? Just so I can understand the seriousness of the problem on a state by state basis.

I assume you are not in the USA where the accident occurred as you seem to know so much about CASA.

So please tell me more about these things and the negative effect on aviation. I understand the basics of the engineering of electricity supply but I have nothing to do with them at all and quite keen to learn more.

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Old 1st Sep 2014, 06:20
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Karman vortex street

Fascinating things aren't they!

Edit: I can see a distinct transition from laminar to turbulent flow in the cloud downstream of each hub. Perhaps this means that this effect is not a Karman vortex? But it sure looks like it, to this amateur.
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Old 1st Sep 2014, 10:40
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"Fascinating things aren't they!"

The vortex's, yes, very interesting.

The Wind Turbines, No, hate the things.

I'll find some other pictures related to those photos as some were
images of the airflow in colour graphs.
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Old 1st Sep 2014, 12:48
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Hey Yr Right,
After reading some of the information in your posts I've done some research into what court cases etc are out there in Australia regarding windfarms near airfields.

I was fascinated to learn that a body called the Airport and Aviation Protection Group exists which is appearing to take on this issue. This has been kept pretty quiet but if you google search that name you'll see that it was formed back in 2008 in response to a windfarm that was being built near the Crookwell airfield in NSW. Within this material is also reference to a policy statement about this they released and their subsequent interactions with the regulator.

Anyone can read this stuff as it's on the net but until tonight I'd never heard of this group. Are you involved with them as that would account for your knowledge as written, some of which is recorded in what I read.

I guess you must have something to do with the Crookwell area which would also account for your RFS stuff you've shared given the fires around there over the years. I don't remember seeing any windfarm around there but next time I'm overhead I'll be looking. Oh and yes, I've also fessed up for scud running in these posts but learnt my lesson. Thanks. Sticky
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