Part61 Type/class IFR renewal
Ranga I can't say I disagree with you.
Doesn't really say much for CASA's recruitment policy, does it?
Doesn't really say much for CASA's recruitment policy, does it?
Same goes for ATPL applications - if you meet the requirements as they stand on December 2, and CASA has your application on December 3, bad luck because it won't be processed by December 4.
...which sounds like bull**** to me but that's what all my crew were told by CASA FCL.
...which sounds like bull**** to me but that's what all my crew were told by CASA FCL.
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Same goes for ATPL applications - if you meet the requirements as they stand on December 2, and CASA has your application on December 3, bad luck because it won't be processed by December 4.
...which sounds like bull$hit to me but that's what all my crew were told by CASA FCL.
...which sounds like bull$hit to me but that's what all my crew were told by CASA FCL.
Not surprising there are differences. We had 2 CASA fellas. One was reasonably switched on, but the other could be led round the garden path until he got dizzy and fell over.
That's funny - we were told the opposite by the CASA guys at the talk last Wednesday night at Archerfield. They said as long as the application is with CASA before the 4th, then it will be processed via the existing rules.
It now appears that if you want to amend your present OM, you have to change to the new format.
We seem to have as many variations on a theme as we have employees in CASA.
I was told we didn't need to change to the new format 
Re-reading the CAAP it explicitly states that compliance with the exact format is not mandatory, but all the headings must be used even if only as "Reserved".
Re-reading the CAAP it explicitly states that compliance with the exact format is not mandatory, but all the headings must be used even if only as "Reserved".
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Well if you change your current manual to the new format CAAP 215, you will then have to change it again when Part135/121 comes in anyway.
Although it may be a bit easier going from the 215 format to 135/121 than staight to 135/121.
Wait and see...
Although it may be a bit easier going from the 215 format to 135/121 than staight to 135/121.
Wait and see...
Jaba,
Had a wonderful example of the Creamie system quite recently, one chap still flying the "NOSE" rule --- hadn't yet caught with AMATS in 1992, and ICAO cruising levels and nobody had caught up with him.
Tootle pip!!
Had a wonderful example of the Creamie system quite recently, one chap still flying the "NOSE" rule --- hadn't yet caught with AMATS in 1992, and ICAO cruising levels and nobody had caught up with him.
Tootle pip!!
If he was cruising at the incorrect levels in airspace in which other people were cruising at the correct levels, he was a danger to himself and others. That’s not the ‘Creamie system’. 
The decrepitude of aviation regulatory reform writ large. 
[T]he CAAP … states that compliance with the exact format is not mandatory, but all the headings must be used even if only as "Reserved".
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I get your point, but Creamie is correct, I did say....
They is digging a bigger hole. Even Leafie the Blower is now having second thoughts,and he is a pretty smart cookie.
See what I mean! What hope do I have
I get your point, but Creamie is correct, I did say....
adopt the Creamie principal and that is keep doing what I am doing and be safe
See what I mean! What hope do I have
What am I having second thoughts about? 
Not too sure about the Smart Cookie thing either
Not too sure about the Smart Cookie thing either
I'd renew by DEC 4. There are many things we don't know. But I think we can be certain that there will be less ATO's (Flight Examiners) after Dec 4 and that renewals will cost more. I think its also likely that there will be a period of uncertainty will the many ambiguous parts of the new legislation are worked out.
I was told by CASA FCL that so long as the application is processed by the 4th, you will have an ATPL. But if they have to send it back, and you don't get it back to them before the 4h... Bad luck.
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I'd renew by DEC 4. There are many things we don't know. But I think we can be certain that there will be less ATO's (Flight Examiners) after Dec 4 and that renewals will cost more. I think its also likely that there will be a period of uncertainty will the many ambiguous parts of the new legislation are worked out.
Even casa can't give me a straight answer and they are the legislators!
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Slight thread drift
Jeff Boyd from Brindabella Airlines and the RAAA wrote in article recently regarding the cost to industry due to the introduction of the new maintenance regulations. He compared Australia's change (full rewrite) to New Zealand who basicly copied the FAA with a few minor changes. The industry costs in NZ were basically nothing and switched over to the new regulations overnight. Other smaller countries are now adopting the NZ regulations.
Jeff Boyd from Brindabella Airlines and the RAAA wrote in article recently regarding the cost to industry due to the introduction of the new maintenance regulations.