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Old 2nd Sep 2019, 02:26
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cost comparison

Check out the fine print to see what you get.

I am fairly sure that you get CPL, all ATPL theory, instrument rating, with all theory exams and flight tests included at UNSW. You also get all your theory manuals, and an initial set of CASA documents. In other words all costs unless you overfly or fail tests or exams. I am not sure about Multi Crew training. Best to ask them. Also they have a top cohort of full time theory and flight instructors. The UNSW reputation is very high, and the aircraft and simulators in great shape.

There is an Open Day at UNSW flight Ops Bankstown Airport on 21 Sept 1000 to 1200.

The cheap prices usually do not cover anything other than a very limited amount of flying, and are done with casual flying instructors who only earn a set amount per flight. If you need to spend more time discussing issues with them they don't get paid. Also there can be a huge difference in approach from different instructors as they are often not standardised across the School. You will find there are always extra costs, such as theory classes, exams and tests, landing fees, reference materials and charts, CASR, AIP etc.

Do your research. What appears to be cheap may not be either cheap or good quality!


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Old 2nd Sep 2019, 08:57
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Your last post not long ago indicated: "I am currently in year 9 finishing year 10."

Fine to dream and plan but I think you should focused on Years 11 and 12 if you hope for an airline flying career?

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Old 5th Sep 2019, 14:14
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Originally Posted by Persona View Post
In University of New South Wales, a Bachelor of Aviation (Flying) degree costs 133k AUD. Whereas, some flight schools offer the same course for 75-85k.

So, what's up with that? Is there any reason to pay an additional 48-58 thousand dollars? I understand that the University provides a degree, but just how useful is it?
The degree itself is pretty worthless, but the links they can provide you into the industry with UNSW (and other unis) are not. Iím not sure how many graduates of the degree get the position in the program and how many gain employment but itíd be worth looking into:

QantasLink-UNSW Partnership

It in a way is sort of like a pseudo Cadetship. Of course a real Cadetship would be the preferred option. Like UNSW it would be at a greater cost, although not too dissimilar, you have to add the cost of an instrument rating and ATPL theory lessons to the apparently cheaper cost of a normal flying school.

The real advantage is you are fairly well placed to start employment directly into an airline, and be able to take advantage of higher relative seniority quicker. Eventually over the course of a career itíll pay itself back in droves.
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 01:23
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Air Fraser Jobs

Hi all,

Wondering if anyone could share any information about Air Fraser's hiring of pilots. Their fleet looks welcoming to green fingers (they even have a 172) but with the culture of being "GA READY" I'm wondering what the habits of the CP/Hiring Manager are. Do they want 206 time? Will they take 200 hour pilots? What's the chief pilot/Gerry like? Will they take an email with a resume?

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Old 9th Sep 2019, 10:48
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Originally Posted by Kundry View Post
Wondering if anyone could share any information about Air Fraser's hiring of pilot
I realise it might sound a bit old-fashioned: have you tried calling them, introducing yourself & what you can offer, and asking questions to show your interest?

Thats what I would respect as a business owner...
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Old 20th Sep 2019, 09:11
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MECIR locations for Mel and Adelaide

I have a PPL license and have recently passed my IREX exam. I wanted to travel to Melbourne or Adelaide and complete a MECIR and multi engine rating. I will be paying as I go. Would anyone be able to offer recommendations on places that offer a comprehensive IFR courses.

I have heard that FTA in Adelaide offer a very comprehensive course but I wasn't sure if doing it in a DA42 will be a disadvantage for flying twins after and going back to steam gauges.
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Old 21st Sep 2019, 00:50
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I did my MECIR with FTA in Adelaide, can't recommend then highly enough, they are more airline focused with extensive focus on the SOP's and procedures. If you want to fly steam gauges in GA then look no further than Peter Bini flying school at YMMB. Probably the best MECIR provider at YMMB. At the end of the day it just depends on what you want, so why not chat to both and see what suits best for you!
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Old 21st Sep 2019, 08:01
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As I have no experience with real IFR to go from full glass back to steam does it face a disadvantage? Because I feel it would be similar cost to do it in a DA42 as apossed to a steam twin which are very common. But it would be easier to learn glass now and cheaper as not many full glass cockpits are around. Then when i need to do my review just do it in a steam gauge. But I'm worried about jumping in a barron after a DA42 and feeling overwhelmed or undertrained. Any suggestions or real life experience about these problems would be awesome?
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