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From: doncaster
ATPL A Course Au
Hey Guys,
I would like to ask you about the cost of doing ATPL A at Australia,
I currently have PPL A English licence + VFR night . I read in Australia, you have another law, in Europe we can start a course ATPL theory with a PPL license which takes 650 hours and consists of 14 subject. Could you explain me the rules in Australia and the costs that will be on the way to ATPL A ?
I read in Australia is 7 Subject to pass to get ATPL A but first i need to Pass CPL ?
question about jobs opportunity in Australia. they accept pilot to companies immediately after the course or the rules are like in the United States where ATPL and a line pilot can be at 1500h? and first we doing CPL A + FI , and we learning people to get that 1500h and after that we can apply for ATPL a exam and pass theory ?
Kind regards
I would like to ask you about the cost of doing ATPL A at Australia,
I currently have PPL A English licence + VFR night . I read in Australia, you have another law, in Europe we can start a course ATPL theory with a PPL license which takes 650 hours and consists of 14 subject. Could you explain me the rules in Australia and the costs that will be on the way to ATPL A ?
I read in Australia is 7 Subject to pass to get ATPL A but first i need to Pass CPL ?
question about jobs opportunity in Australia. they accept pilot to companies immediately after the course or the rules are like in the United States where ATPL and a line pilot can be at 1500h? and first we doing CPL A + FI , and we learning people to get that 1500h and after that we can apply for ATPL a exam and pass theory ?
Kind regards
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From: Auckland
Which aviation school would you choose?
Hey,
What would be the best aviation school in New Zealand? My goal is to become an Air New Zealand pilot one day, which school would give me the best start?
Ive done the adapt test and i understand that i would have to do another test before getting offered a placement into the schools. What test would this be? Any tips?
Thank you <3
What would be the best aviation school in New Zealand? My goal is to become an Air New Zealand pilot one day, which school would give me the best start?
Ive done the adapt test and i understand that i would have to do another test before getting offered a placement into the schools. What test would this be? Any tips?
Thank you <3
Joined: Jul 2019
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From: Hong Kong
flight school recommendation
Hi everyone
I am a flying beginner who locate in Brisbane at the moment.
Is there anyone recommend good flying school around Queensland? Also where could I get Class 1 medical check with the best price?
Thanks
I am a flying beginner who locate in Brisbane at the moment.
Is there anyone recommend good flying school around Queensland? Also where could I get Class 1 medical check with the best price?
Thanks
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From: Montriond
How is an ATPL exam presented?
Hello, i am an aspiring airline pilot currently in school. So I was curious about how an ATPL theory exam is presented? My two ideas were that it may be about applying formulas (kind of like an engineering exam) or more about general knowledge so multiple choice questions without many mathematical questions just knowing air law, knowing every part of the aircraft? Thankyou so much for your time.
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From: Auckland
Applying for AviationI
Hello,
I am applying for some aviation schools in new zealand and was wondering if anyone could give me tips or hints to stand out amongst the many candidates.
Could you recommend some good goals to put in my application for during my time as a student, i have many academic and personal goals such as Achieving well above requirements to pass PPL CPL and taking my parents out on a scenic flight. But are there other goals i should also mention?
I have scored well in my ADAPT test and would be recuired to do another test during the selection process, how should i prepare for this test?
My first choice is to study at the international aviation academy as i would like to learn at an international airport, what would be the likely hood of getting accepted?
Thank you so much for reading/recommending <3
I am applying for some aviation schools in new zealand and was wondering if anyone could give me tips or hints to stand out amongst the many candidates.
Could you recommend some good goals to put in my application for during my time as a student, i have many academic and personal goals such as Achieving well above requirements to pass PPL CPL and taking my parents out on a scenic flight. But are there other goals i should also mention?
I have scored well in my ADAPT test and would be recuired to do another test during the selection process, how should i prepare for this test?
My first choice is to study at the international aviation academy as i would like to learn at an international airport, what would be the likely hood of getting accepted?
Thank you so much for reading/recommending <3
Joined: Apr 2019
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From: Australia
If you are aspiring towards ATPL, you will already have studied and passed your CPL exams. The exam format is very similar - you will have no trouble passing all of this if you study the theory, ask questions of qualified persons when unsure, and practice some exams (studying further when you identify your own knowledge deficiencies!).
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From: Auckland
How hard is it to get into an aviation school
Hello
how difficult is it to get into aviation school in New Zealand? I did not particularly well in school and my grades were not good. However i have completed a bachelors degree in business but wanted to change careers. I had always wanted to go into aviation but went a different path as i made more money owning my own business, but now i realised i would rather have a career (flying) im passionate in instead of making it about the money. What is the possibility i would get into the NAC or IAANZ or Southern wings
how difficult is it to get into aviation school in New Zealand? I did not particularly well in school and my grades were not good. However i have completed a bachelors degree in business but wanted to change careers. I had always wanted to go into aviation but went a different path as i made more money owning my own business, but now i realised i would rather have a career (flying) im passionate in instead of making it about the money. What is the possibility i would get into the NAC or IAANZ or Southern wings
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From: The Loony Bin
IAANZ seem to have made it a bit more difficult to find: https://flighttraining.co.nz/the-aca...estic-students (click the "course information" link and have a look at the PDF)
NAC has theirs here: https://www.nelson-aviation.co.nz/ab...ements-nz.html
All three appear to be almost identical.
In any case, if I were in your situation I would call the respective institutions and see if you can have a chat with someone (maybe the CFI?)... or if you live near any of them, pop in and say hi. I spent some time on the phone back in the day when I was in somewhat of a similar position (except I already had a PPL and a few extra hours and was trying to figure out how to get to CPL+MEIR etc)... in general I found most of the places I called were happy to discuss my situation and goals and whether or not their particular course was a good fit for both.
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From: Los angeles, california
How can a foreigner join OZ/NZ airline cadet or affordable school
I am a US citizen with finance degree been seriously looking into cadet programs/flight schools. I prefer to tie myself with Australian airlines or NZ long term than US airlines. I know i have to be OZ citizen but anyone know of a flight program that accepts foreigners and might guarantee a pilot job in OZ or NZ?
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From: Australia
Hey guys,
Will soon be a 200 hour CPL looking for work up north. I'm planning to pack the car and visit a couple of specific operators that are in northern WA and remote NT i.e. away from Darwin.
I was wondering if a bare CPL will reflect poorly upon me? i.e. I haven't taken the time to upskill to a FIR, ME or IR, no IREX done, no ATPLs done. I have a senior first aid cert and looking to get my DG Awareness done.
Realistically not expecting any IFR/NVFR flying in the first year or so however even for the 172 scenics I'll be competing with other fresh CPLs from uni courses/diplomas who have their ME IR. Am I overthinking this or should I just pack the car and go knocking?
Will soon be a 200 hour CPL looking for work up north. I'm planning to pack the car and visit a couple of specific operators that are in northern WA and remote NT i.e. away from Darwin.
I was wondering if a bare CPL will reflect poorly upon me? i.e. I haven't taken the time to upskill to a FIR, ME or IR, no IREX done, no ATPLs done. I have a senior first aid cert and looking to get my DG Awareness done.
Realistically not expecting any IFR/NVFR flying in the first year or so however even for the 172 scenics I'll be competing with other fresh CPLs from uni courses/diplomas who have their ME IR. Am I overthinking this or should I just pack the car and go knocking?
The industry is moving quickly that you want to be the guy who is ready for the twin not the guy who says (give me 4 weeks to do my MECIR).
Credit to you if you are willing to pack up your car and go north, not a lot of people do it now days, a lot of people simply fly in, drop a resume then fly out ( and it works... ). We’ve all been through that first job conundrum, and it sucks but stick through it, you’ll make a lot of good stories out of it in the future.
Joined: Aug 2019
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From: QLD
Paperless
Will be starting my cpl and then atpl exams soon (Australia).
Best order to do exams? Jepps or AIPS? Let me know your thoughts.
As we transition into paperless will casa bring this into their exams, as in, we would no longer require to use these documents and maybe go off something digital?
Best order to do exams? Jepps or AIPS? Let me know your thoughts.
As we transition into paperless will casa bring this into their exams, as in, we would no longer require to use these documents and maybe go off something digital?
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From: Sydney
Jetstar/Virgin Cadet ship 2020 intake
Hey guys
I'm currently an investment banker, looking to a career change and to follow my childhood dream of becoming a pilot. Does anyone know if Jetstar or Virgin is doing an intake for 2020 pilot cadetship?
I'm currently an investment banker, looking to a career change and to follow my childhood dream of becoming a pilot. Does anyone know if Jetstar or Virgin is doing an intake for 2020 pilot cadetship?
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From: Doomagee
Check website links but think carefully before applying.
If they are recruiting there should be a link allowing you to apply on the website. Like Qantas mainline recruitment, the link disappears when they aren’t recruiting so you have to check occasionally. No need to check everyday, as recruitment for these sorts of jobs stays open for a while. If you follow this forum you will also see it mentioned in the threads about the respective airline.
I understand the flying dream etc, but you have a good career with massive earning potential particularly if you are willing to do the hard yards in London/New York (get minted). Flying has some serious downsides from a health point of view. These include cosmic radiation, constant inhalation of petrochemical fumes, long periods of sitting, circadian flips including highly irregular wake times, the list goes on and on.
I just don’t think in your shoes, the return is there when you are already in a good career. I personally enjoy my job but wouldn’t recommend it to my children and looking back if I had my time over would have probably gone for something different.
My best mate is an investment banker and while his job also has some significant downsides the rewards have been there for the effort. Wishing you the best in your endeavours.
I understand the flying dream etc, but you have a good career with massive earning potential particularly if you are willing to do the hard yards in London/New York (get minted). Flying has some serious downsides from a health point of view. These include cosmic radiation, constant inhalation of petrochemical fumes, long periods of sitting, circadian flips including highly irregular wake times, the list goes on and on.
I just don’t think in your shoes, the return is there when you are already in a good career. I personally enjoy my job but wouldn’t recommend it to my children and looking back if I had my time over would have probably gone for something different.
My best mate is an investment banker and while his job also has some significant downsides the rewards have been there for the effort. Wishing you the best in your endeavours.
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From: Asia
The Virgin cadetship last time round had 4000 people apply. 12 got in. From memory the majority were female, they use these courses to increase the low quota of female pilots. Jetstar has a similar quota of applicants and entry. The cadets all seem very young also late teens, early 20s.
If if you want to go down the GA to Regional to Airline Route the first few years you will be earning 40k a year, then a few more years of 50k, then as we approach the 10 year mark you might be at a regional on 70k. And that’s after a couple of years slogging away getting a self funded CPL which you are negative a hundred grand before the first job. Then comes the issue of funding the first job.
Option 2 is easier if single and flexible. The only way to really do it these days is a decade of 6 figure earning in another industry to set your life up then go into it. Otherwise financially miserable.
If if you want to go down the GA to Regional to Airline Route the first few years you will be earning 40k a year, then a few more years of 50k, then as we approach the 10 year mark you might be at a regional on 70k. And that’s after a couple of years slogging away getting a self funded CPL which you are negative a hundred grand before the first job. Then comes the issue of funding the first job.
Option 2 is easier if single and flexible. The only way to really do it these days is a decade of 6 figure earning in another industry to set your life up then go into it. Otherwise financially miserable.
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From: Sydney
The Virgin cadetship last time round had 4000 people apply. 12 got in. From memory the majority were female, they use these courses to increase the low quota of female pilots. Jetstar has a similar quota of applicants and entry. The cadets all seem very young also late teens, early 20s.
If if you want to go down the GA to Regional to Airline Route the first few years you will be earning 40k a year, then a few more years of 50k, then as we approach the 10 year mark you might be at a regional on 70k. And that’s after a couple of years slogging away getting a self funded CPL which you are negative a hundred grand before the first job. Then comes the issue of funding the first job.
Option 2 is easier if single and flexible. The only way to really do it these days is a decade of 6 figure earning in another industry to set your life up then go into it. Otherwise financially miserable.
If if you want to go down the GA to Regional to Airline Route the first few years you will be earning 40k a year, then a few more years of 50k, then as we approach the 10 year mark you might be at a regional on 70k. And that’s after a couple of years slogging away getting a self funded CPL which you are negative a hundred grand before the first job. Then comes the issue of funding the first job.
Option 2 is easier if single and flexible. The only way to really do it these days is a decade of 6 figure earning in another industry to set your life up then go into it. Otherwise financially miserable.
Wheels, that whole attitude and focus on $$$ is what makes people miserable in the first place - no matter what their profession. Yeah you can earn way more in jobs such as investment banking, but having a $3m dollar mortgage and nice view does not correlate to happiness. The earlier poster, if you really are doing it for the right reasons, then who cares about a cadetship. That will probably lead you straight back to where you were as a banker. Do it for the adventure and do it because you're passionate about it. Don't do it because you think you'll be flying a big jet in a fancy looking uniform.
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From: The Loony Bin
Pilot career evenings in Auckland and Christchurch
Something for the guys and girls in NZ who are interested and would like to be able to speak to people in person and ask questions etc...
Auckland, Tuesday August 27th... note that there are TWO sessions:
Session 1: https://www.eventbrite.co.nz/e/air-n...ts-67660477309
Session 2: https://www.eventbrite.co.nz/e/air-n...9305?aff=ebapi
There is also a Christchurch event on Thursday September 5th listed here: https://www.eventbrite.co.nz/e/air-n...7417?aff=ebapi
Auckland, Tuesday August 27th... note that there are TWO sessions:
Session 1: https://www.eventbrite.co.nz/e/air-n...ts-67660477309
Session 2: https://www.eventbrite.co.nz/e/air-n...9305?aff=ebapi
There is also a Christchurch event on Thursday September 5th listed here: https://www.eventbrite.co.nz/e/air-n...7417?aff=ebapi
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From: Singapore
Good and reliable flying clubs in Brisbane
Hi gentleman,
Any good flying clubs in Brisbane for doing CPL training with Multi Engine and Instrument Rating? I will need to do CSU/RU endorsement as well.
Currently I have a CASA PPL with 160 Hours - Pilot In Command + P2 hours.
Cheers
Any good flying clubs in Brisbane for doing CPL training with Multi Engine and Instrument Rating? I will need to do CSU/RU endorsement as well.
Currently I have a CASA PPL with 160 Hours - Pilot In Command + P2 hours.
Cheers