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Old 16th May 2012, 08:24
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"Given that it has been scientifically proven that 50% of the population is of below average intelligence, and the number of obvious morons posting on the internet, it is also very, very obvious that this ultra mega top secret world wide population moronisation and subjugation program has been very successful."

How come only 50% of the population have been 'moronised' by chemtrails? Were the other half wearing their tinfoil hats at the right time? How did they know when to put them on?

Sounds like a conspiracy to me........
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Old 16th May 2012, 09:27
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Keg, following one of the previous threads on this subject (years ago) some wag photoshopped a Boeing overhead panel into a Chemtrails control panel and iirc posted it on their website- it caused some excitement to say the least.
That was about the first time we'd heard of these wackos and a number of members here joined and posted on their website - with varying degrees of constructiveness - resulting in a furious outburst against pilots, all pilots banned from the site and all posts removed. For all their gnashing of teeth about overbearing government any vestige of democracy or free speech is far, far from their agenda.
If you want to see the effect of tossing a rock in an ants nest find one of their rants on youtube and post a critical comment and see how long it takes for it to be removed, you to be banned from their thread and even for you to receive a foul and abusive e mail in return. Just like tossing rocks in ants nests its actually quite fun, once. I recommend everyone has a go...

Qantas Declares War on Melbourne on Rememberance Day 11.11.11 - YouTube

Have a laugh at this numptie - or maybe just cry!

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Old 16th May 2012, 11:09
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Educated people call this "mathematics".
ZAP,

Looks like your irony gene was zapped at birth.

Cirronimbus,

I think you've missed the point, as well.

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Old 16th May 2012, 12:14
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Hmmm. I think I may have commented on one of his videos before. I just wanted to point out that even though the entirety of the US airliner fleet was grounded after the 11 Sep 01 attacks, there were still cirrus clouds above 30'000 feet over the continental US and wanted him to explain how that was the case with nothing to spray them. Now I'll never know.
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Would using the "Report this video as inappropriate" option on Youtube have any effect? What reasons would we use?
Drug Use?
Hate Speech?
Promotes terrorism?
Cruelty to animals?
Invades my privacy??
5 minutes of my life I can't get back?
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Old 16th May 2012, 22:32
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It must be the single greatest achievement in human history that of the thousands, and thousands of pilots and crew who flew those B-17s, not a single one has broken rank to reveal their true “mission”. Although the tens of thousands of airline pilots flying now haven’t let out a peep either...

I'm on to all of you and your lies...

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Old 17th May 2012, 00:47
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Zepp why do you think Adolf went mad, it wasn't pathological meglomania, look what he did with the trains, you have to be a genius to sort that out! Why did the Wehrmacht keep fighting when any sane person could see the futility of continuing the struggle. The answer-you guessed it-CHEMTRAILS!
Winnie didn't go mad because the westerlies took it away from England-it all makes sense.

How do I know all this- the sylphs told me
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In the Newcastle Herald on September 9th 2011 in an article titled “Pivotal Moment in History Remains Unclear”, respected journalist Greg Ray, writing about the events of 9/11, wrote the following:


“It’s been said that nobody who researches the subject of the so-called September 11 terror attacks in the United States ever ends up believing the official story about what happened”.


A short period of 9/11 conspiracy research will soon bring up the interesting case of Building 7, and the fact that its collapse was reported on the BBC news some 20 minutes before the event happened. That Building 7’s collapse looks like a controlled demolition also will become totally apparent. Building 7 for those who forget, was never hit by an airliner and the official story is that it collapsed due to a fire brought about by the Twin Towers exploding. More research will bring up heaps, heaps more ...



The same can be said about chemtrails. Research the subject seriously and you will discover that there is more to this “conspiracy theory“than perhaps is at first apparent.


Do I believe chemtrails are happening? Perhaps, but perhaps not and this is not the point. Only ignorant flat earthers dismiss stuff instantly without thorough research. I can’t be bothered doing this research so I remain open.


There are those out there that will dismiss the whole 9/11 thing and insist the official story is true, perhaps they are correct and I would like to think so too but it does appear that there is more to this conspiracy stuff than meets the eye. Only the ignorant ignore it completely or repudiate it entirely.


Remember: In order to function correctly, the mind, like a parachute, must be fully open.
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Old 17th May 2012, 01:15
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AB- if the research is based on wacky YouTube videos and random internet pages then its not surprising that its not taken seriously. Its not an open mind thats required its more that the logic of the argument has to at least make sense which it doesn't with both the 9/11 conspiracy and chemtrails. When I start reading stuff about sylphs sucking up the chemtrails and some bloke with a camcorder looking at cirrus saying this is all the work of QF64 then I cant take it seriously. I think I do have an open mind but eventually I will decide which point of view I accept based on the arguments of both sides.
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Another huge logic fail with any conspiracy argument that rises to the levels of 9/11 and so called chemtrails is exactly what Aerozepplin said a few posts above. It would involve tens of thousands of people remaining absolutely secret about what is going on. The whole idea is laughable. History has proven time and time again that Governments anywhere in the world are notoriously hopeless at keeping anything strictly confidential for any period of time. Comes down to human nature.
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Old 17th May 2012, 03:44
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The mind should be open, only not so open that your brain falls out.
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Originally Posted by zap brannigan
Yes it certainly is true that 50% will be below average. 50% will also be above average.
Actually, none of that is true. 50 percent are below (and above) *median*. The average (arithmetic mean) is not the number in the middle. If you have 99 people with an IQ of 110 and one with an IQ of 140, the average IQ for the group is 110.3, so you have 99% of the group of below average intelligence.
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Old 17th May 2012, 07:30
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The mind should be open, only not so open that your brain falls out.
or, as it was put, by the then Anglican Archbishop of Sydney, Harry Goodhew, at a school speech day in Sydney:

"It is all very well having an open mind, as long as it isn't open at both ends".

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Old 17th May 2012, 08:17
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<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average#Median>

Folks,
Try the above link to get to the definitions below, if we are going to get picky about definitions of averages. It's so long since I did all this sort of stuff that I need something like Wikipedia to refresh a tired old brain.

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The table of mathematical symbols explains the symbols used below.
Name

Arithmetic mean

Median
The middle value that separates the higher half from the lower half of the data set
Geometric median
A rotation invariant extension of the median for points in Rn
Mode
The most frequent value in the data set
Geometric mean

Harmonic mean

Quadratic mean
(or RMS)


Generalized mean

Weighted mean

Truncated mean
The arithmetic mean of data values after a certain number or proportion of the highest and lowest data values have been discarded
Interquartile mean
A special case of the truncated mean, using the interquartile range
Midrange

Winsorized mean
Similar to the truncated mean, but, rather than deleting the extreme values, they are set equal to the largest and smallest values that remain
Annualization
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Old 17th May 2012, 08:20
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I wonder what these conspiracy theorists think when they see a photo of a jet going super sonic and the sonic wave causes condensation, or when they see condensation trails caused by wing vortices or over the wing at a high angle of attack?

Conspiracy theory #3
9/11 was caused by a sylph which was desperately trying to eat up the chemtrails of a low flying jet. Because these sylphs are mythological they are able to also bend space and time as they die, so building 7 appeared to come down 20 minutes earlier to all viewers who were on the other side of the rip in the time space continuum.

Don on the foil hats people!
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Old 17th May 2012, 08:29
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Actually, none of that is true. 50 percent are below (and above) *median*. The average (arithmetic mean) is not the number in the middle. If you have 99 people with an IQ of 110 and one with an IQ of 140, the average IQ for the group is 110.3, so you have 99% of the group of below average intelligence.
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Good point, that shows how much I thought about that topic before posting! Leadsled sorry your post was just a little to subtle for me, but point taken.

This is certainly a worry:

Advocating violence against "Chemtrail" planes

As they say, ignorance leads to fear and fear leads to violence.
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Three people can keep a secret as long as two of them are dead.
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ARE COMMERCIAL AIRLINES SPRAYING CHEMTRAILS OVER AUSTRALIA?
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