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Old 18th Feb 2013, 06:01
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That is very funny. You have to wonder about some of
these people.
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I thought that this was good parody!
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Old 19th Feb 2013, 04:10
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I don't know if this has been posted already but if so it's funny enough to be posted twice.
xkcd: Jet Fuel
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Very true, Anthill. They have it all covered and it is amazing how many people fall for the productions of Rosario Marcianò (Tanker Enemy).

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Yep the Yanks were that crafty that even before the word was invented (apparently) they were drawing in white trails behind the bombers to disguise the real purpose of chemtrails. BTW how come film footage shows the "false contrails"?
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Tanker Enemy isn't the brightest of bulbs. He is obsessed with his 'evidence' of low altitude spraying. Why do people fall for claims that the aircraft are at 6,000 feet?



He is meant to be an expert in his field amongst the Chemtrailers yet he can't identify an An-124 Condor. Here he is passing the footage off as a C-17 Globemaster. Again at 6,000 feet!



Recently some of the Chemtrailers are taking it to another level with claims that the aircraft are actually holograms! Distorted footage and distinctive airline liveries fool them into believing this non-sense.



It was actually an Air Canada Airbus A320. It was in a unique anniversary scheme. The registration is C-FFWN. It was painted to celebrate the 65th Anniversary.

Photos: Airbus A320-211 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net



The reality is that it is a Monarch Airlines airliner. One of the most distinctive liveries in the skies.

Photos: Airbus A330-243 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

Utter madness! The dangerous part is that some of them are actually attempting to approach pilots. Peter Kusznir is an avid Chemtrailer in Australia.

Jet pilots fear 'chemtrail' attacks

Neighbours and Underbelly bit-part actor Kusznir, writing under the alias peekay22, has posted several videos on Youtube allegedly showing chemtrails in the air above Melbourne.

Asked if he had any scientific training that might allow him to comment with authority, Kusznir said: "Mate, I opened my eyes and I can see it in the sky. My eyes don't lie."

Kusznir believes thousands of government and airline employees worldwide are in on the conspiracy, and has an explanation for why not one person has broken ranks: "People are too scared that if they speak up they'll get knocked off."
Here is Kuznir asking question. He can't comprehend how aircraft vortices can interact with the contrails. (Crow Instability)

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Old 20th Feb 2013, 20:57
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Harold Saive lives in Florida and owns the GeoEngineeringwatch website. To cover the claims of WW2 films clearly showing contrails, he now espouses that chemtrailing has been going on since 1921.

Feel free to donate to Harold via the Paypal icon on his website. Which is the crux of the issue really. There are many people now making a living from this hoax.
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This whole thing puzzles me. On one of the few sunny days in January, the sky was blue from horizon to horizon and any airliner visible left a non-persistent contrail if it left one at all. Wind forward to about 5:30 pm yesterday (another, slightly milder, sunny day), the whole sky was criss-crossed with persistent and drifting contrails. I can see why some people get agitated.

So the question is, why nothing on one cold sunny day and everything on another? What's the science? I have real trouble imagining that the chisellers who run airlines would accept the cost of trucking any extra weight in the form of "stuff" to chuck out over London; that aspect in itself seems to bust any claims. So, what combination of factors (meteorological, fuel burn temps etc) would cause this one one day but not on another, comparable, day?
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So the question is, why nothing on one cold sunny day and everything on another? What's the science? I have real trouble imagining that the chisellers who run airlines would accept the cost of trucking any extra weight in the form of "stuff" to chuck out over London; that aspect in itself seems to bust any claims. So, what combination of factors (meteorological, fuel burn temps etc) would cause this one one day but not on another, comparable, day?
Basically it comes down to the temperature and relative humidity at the altitude the aircraft is flying at. The composition of the atmosphere at high altitudes does not on a day to day basis reflect what the composition of the atmosphere is at ground level. So while it may seem to be a similar day on the ground it does not mean the same conditions exist at altitude.

The contrails will always appear more readily ahead of a front just a bit like you see cirrus (high wispy cloud) ahead of a front.

My explanation is very basic but I hope it makes some sense. It would be easier to explain with diagrams showing how different air masses interact with each other.

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Old 1st Mar 2013, 07:32
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both would not be comparable day, other than cloud coverage, or lack of. different dew points would be one, different temperatures, different pressure, all these things change constantly, and effect cloud formation, even down to sea level..... fog etc.
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Go to contrailscience.com. All explained there.
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Excellent replies, thank you.
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Old 1st Mar 2013, 09:31
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So
the question is, why nothing on one cold sunny day and everything on
another?
What's the science?
I'm kinda surprised to read this question on Professional Pilot's Rumour Network
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Old 1st Mar 2013, 11:31
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Anthill, if you quoted every post that statement applies to you would end up with a thread longer than any "QANTAS, the *insert inalienable statement here*" thread.
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Old 2nd Mar 2013, 07:03
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I'm kinda surprised to read this question on Professional Pilot's Rumour Network
Perhaps 3rd ear isn't a pilot but a person interested in aviation, and has asked a reasonable question. There's plenty of people on here who are obviously not professional pilots.
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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 00:46
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Sorry, it was a little bit mean

I have noticed quite a few chemtrail websites that have a link to send "donations" to help with a"legal fund" or what ever. Some of these guys are making money out of this. Who'da thought..?

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Old 22nd Mar 2013, 23:43
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Who dreams up this chemtrail **** seriously!
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Old 23rd Mar 2013, 06:43
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Just had a look at a page on bookface, holy crap these guys are nutters!
The only culling that needs to happen is people like that outa the gene pool! WOW
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Old 23rd Mar 2013, 06:49
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You guys know we aren't supposed to talk about it especially on a public forum or the real truth will get out. Remember the memo C5178A about all pilots to maintain the highest level of silence about THAT particular topic.

Talking about it will compromise the grand plan (and we all know what that is lol)

Think of the big picture guys and DO NOT waiver from the ultimate goal.....

Mods I suggest this thread be locked for everyone's benefit. We don't need anymore leaks.
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Old 24th Mar 2013, 02:45
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Now you've done it, The Love doctor!

Seen any big black cars with dark windows outside your house yet?
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