How not to land.
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From: Up yer nose, again.
I guess I shoulda said Military towers. (need a checklist)
I'm told it's also done here in the USA, but I haven't personally heard it done.


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From: Not Syderknee
Can Confirm Civi Towers still call "check gear" to the Military aircraft capable of embarrassing themselves this way (Including choppers). Even heard it called to a BBJ and a "Military Challenger". Makes me laugh each and every time. 
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From: sydney
"Check gear"
I've had BK tower tell me to check gear after a gear problem on my first command hr in a twin
Put the leaver down expecting 3 green on downwind as per usual but got nothing. There was no one else in the circuit so i stretched the circuit a little for a bit more room and tried the leaver again on base and final, but no luck
. Just as i was about to call a go-around and tell them what was going on, the twr got back to me with the "check gear" or words to that effect.
Got her down with 3 green in the end though
Put the leaver down expecting 3 green on downwind as per usual but got nothing. There was no one else in the circuit so i stretched the circuit a little for a bit more room and tried the leaver again on base and final, but no luck
. Just as i was about to call a go-around and tell them what was going on, the twr got back to me with the "check gear" or words to that effect.Got her down with 3 green in the end though
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From: Sydney NSW Australia
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From: sydney
Nice landing.
I didn't know there were more of these Technams around besides the ones from Basair.
Has anybody ever watched the Basair boys and gals do their last 100 feet or so?? They fly up to the threshold nice and slow, then dive
I was told by an ex-basair Instructor they did this for fun...
I didn't know there were more of these Technams around besides the ones from Basair.
Has anybody ever watched the Basair boys and gals do their last 100 feet or so?? They fly up to the threshold nice and slow, then dive
I was told by an ex-basair Instructor they did this for fun...
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From: Moree, NSW, Australia

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From: Lost in the space-time continuum
Ask your instructor to tell you about our little friend "Pilot Induced Oscillation", especially before you fly any Cessna
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From: moon
Sorry Mr. Budgie, he did try and fix it, that's the problem, he tried to fix it the wrong way by flailing around with the controls instead of holding a constant attitude.
When you get "behind" the aircraft (ie, responding in phase with the aircraft) then each successive bounce is worse than the one before it until either the wheel comes off or you finally run out of energy.
If you watch the video closely, you can see how the pilot was caught by surprise, pushed the column forward and wheel barrow'ed it, then each bounce gets progressively worse until the nose collapsed on his final mighty leap.
I'd be happy to demonstrate if anyone has a free C172 they don't really need to use again.
When you get "behind" the aircraft (ie, responding in phase with the aircraft) then each successive bounce is worse than the one before it until either the wheel comes off or you finally run out of energy.
If you watch the video closely, you can see how the pilot was caught by surprise, pushed the column forward and wheel barrow'ed it, then each bounce gets progressively worse until the nose collapsed on his final mighty leap.
I'd be happy to demonstrate if anyone has a free C172 they don't really need to use again.

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From: On the water
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGndTM-w_68
Dr. - you haven't taken the FDK over to the states recently?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr1fdyD0YWA
Dr. - you haven't taken the FDK over to the states recently?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr1fdyD0YWA

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From: Qld troppo
Dr - you haven't taken the FDK over to the states recently?
Kick a bloke in the kahulligoolies when he's down and hurtin why don't ya.
You'll all keep!
Stuff is arriving back in TL from all round the world as I type this.
- TSO146 G430 on its way back from the US - so I can go anywhere I friggin like
- Landing gear motor overhauled
- Shimmy damper replaced
- Nose gear retract rod ends replaced
- Engine baffle seals replaced
- Flap flexi shafts replaced
- Flap gearbox and motor overhauled
- Flap actuator overhauled
- Fuel boost pump overhauled
- Tail feathers had their chemo and reconstructive surgery
- Fancy new door struts
- Sexy new seat covers!
The FTDK will once again terrorise the airways with inflight Ppruining and triple-GPS trans-continental cross-countries in the flight levels.
Dr

PS: So Pyro (ya smarty!) - I guess you'll be walking to the next big Ppruiners fly-in, huh?
PPS:
sheeez Dr the pilot even looks like you
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From: Wingham NSW Australia
Check Gear
To McDonal. I just wonder if you will laugh if ever you "embarrass" yourself by landing with the gear up and will you still think it is not a worthwhile call to get from the tower, if one is there? It is not only military pilots who are guilty of occasionally making the mistake of forgetting to lower the gear.
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From: in the classroom of life
Stuff is arriving back in TL from all round the world as I type this.
- TSO146 G430 on its way back from the US - so I can go anywhere I friggin like
- Landing gear motor overhauled
- Shimmy damper replaced
- Nose gear retract rod ends replaced
- Engine baffle seals replaced
- Flap flexi shafts replaced
- Flap gearbox and motor overhauled
- Flap actuator overhauled
- Fuel boost pump overhauled
- Tail feathers had their chemo and reconstructive surgery
- Fancy new door struts
- Sexy new seat covers!
Geeez Ya hard on equipment Doc..........or are ya gunna blame me!

J






