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Not sufficiently competitive to progress to next stage
Hi all,
I applied to QF in Nov 07, got invited to psychometric testing in January. I was advised to wait 2 weeks for results, they called me two days later with an interview and sim invite for Feb 08.
I had the sim, interview and medical over two days, then about 4 weeks later I got the dreaded 'not sufficiently competitive to progress to the next stage' letter
(Next stage being the Letter Of Intent). My letter asked for 6 monthly updates and said i'm entitled to a review after 18 months.
I wrote back asking for some feedback and got absolutely nothing other than a 'we don't give feedback'
I thought my sim performance was pretty average and some interview answers could have been better.
Has anyone had the same letter / been in the same situation with QF (mainline)?
I've given the first 6 monthly update and heard nothing except wait for the review date.
[CPL, 1700TT, 150ME at first application, now ATPL 2100TT 250ME at first update]
PM is ok if you like.... thanks for any stories/help/advice
Happy flight levels,
TSIO540
I applied to QF in Nov 07, got invited to psychometric testing in January. I was advised to wait 2 weeks for results, they called me two days later with an interview and sim invite for Feb 08.
I had the sim, interview and medical over two days, then about 4 weeks later I got the dreaded 'not sufficiently competitive to progress to the next stage' letter
(Next stage being the Letter Of Intent). My letter asked for 6 monthly updates and said i'm entitled to a review after 18 months.I wrote back asking for some feedback and got absolutely nothing other than a 'we don't give feedback'
I thought my sim performance was pretty average and some interview answers could have been better.
Has anyone had the same letter / been in the same situation with QF (mainline)?
I've given the first 6 monthly update and heard nothing except wait for the review date.
[CPL, 1700TT, 150ME at first application, now ATPL 2100TT 250ME at first update]
PM is ok if you like.... thanks for any stories/help/advice
Happy flight levels,
TSIO540
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TSIO540,
I'm in exactly the same boat...although I got told 12 months instead of 18 and that was back in Feb this year. I updated in August and also got told to wait for the review date.
I'm in exactly the same boat...although I got told 12 months instead of 18 and that was back in Feb this year. I updated in August and also got told to wait for the review date.
So people applying now are being given the 'wait until the review' email and not being given any dates for testing? That's strange, I know of a few people who've done psych and skills in the last couple of weeks.
I agree Rhodes, if they're not currently recruiting, why are they still testing? There would be enough people to fill courses with letters of intent from now until mid next year. Unless we're going back to the dreaded 'hold file and competitiveness' situation like in the past. That would pretty much make all our letters void.
I agree Rhodes, if they're not currently recruiting, why are they still testing? There would be enough people to fill courses with letters of intent from now until mid next year. Unless we're going back to the dreaded 'hold file and competitiveness' situation like in the past. That would pretty much make all our letters void.
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May I suggest the current EBA8 may have something to do with it. Of which voting closes at 4pm today.
The "commercially sensitive" current flying plan for the next 5 years is based on the acceptance of EBA8 in the current form.
If accepted, expect some progress, if not back to the negotiating table.
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The "commercially sensitive" current flying plan for the next 5 years is based on the acceptance of EBA8 in the current form.
If accepted, expect some progress, if not back to the negotiating table.
MC
Mstr Caution,
You are on the mark re: EBA8, however, if it does get up I would imagine that recruitment will slow down once they can determine the effect that higher divisors will have on pilot numbers. I would imagine that a YES vote would slowdown recruitment slightly.
You are on the mark re: EBA8, however, if it does get up I would imagine that recruitment will slow down once they can determine the effect that higher divisors will have on pilot numbers. I would imagine that a YES vote would slowdown recruitment slightly.
So I guess with EBA 8 getting voted down we may have to cool our feet for a little bit longer then. Thanks for the heads up lads.
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Recruitment
Recruitment into QF depends on numbers of pilots required as to projected flying hours - it has nothing to do with EBA8.
Due to softening of the market / fuel prices / etc etc everything is being reviewed. Employment currently is being rewieved on a month by month basis.
So yes - interviews / testing - still has to happen - as in aviation - things change rapidly. So courses will be reviewed monthly. Notifcation will be minimum.
Due to softening of the market / fuel prices / etc etc everything is being reviewed. Employment currently is being rewieved on a month by month basis.
So yes - interviews / testing - still has to happen - as in aviation - things change rapidly. So courses will be reviewed monthly. Notifcation will be minimum.
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Will 964,
Your mate that got the 'no' letter after his references were checked didn't have a certain guy that is crying now his Adel Jet* base has shut and has to finish his command training in Christchurch down as a referee?? Once a snake always a snake...watch out Jet* boys in Melbourne...he is on his way!!!
Your mate that got the 'no' letter after his references were checked didn't have a certain guy that is crying now his Adel Jet* base has shut and has to finish his command training in Christchurch down as a referee?? Once a snake always a snake...watch out Jet* boys in Melbourne...he is on his way!!!
Nunc est bibendum
Recruiting QF Style
A little lesson from history.
In April '94 QF had a meeting with a swag of the 80(ish) cadets who hadn't been employed for about two years. The purpose of that meeting was to tell us all that employment wasn't forecast to start in the immediate future or for some time after that. QF recommended that we all get on with our lives and if they called in 2-6 years time and we were still interested then we could still come on board.
They started the first course of 12 in late June and we were all employed by January the following year.
The moral? As Grnd Hog alludes to, things change in a hurry. Personally I started to worry about 18 months ago when QF said that they were going for 'record recruitment and promotion'. That's a sure sign that the wheels are about to fall off!
In April '94 QF had a meeting with a swag of the 80(ish) cadets who hadn't been employed for about two years. The purpose of that meeting was to tell us all that employment wasn't forecast to start in the immediate future or for some time after that. QF recommended that we all get on with our lives and if they called in 2-6 years time and we were still interested then we could still come on board.
They started the first course of 12 in late June and we were all employed by January the following year.
The moral? As Grnd Hog alludes to, things change in a hurry. Personally I started to worry about 18 months ago when QF said that they were going for 'record recruitment and promotion'. That's a sure sign that the wheels are about to fall off!
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Recruitment into QF depends on numbers of pilots required as to projected flying hours - it has nothing to do with EBA8.
Notifcation will be minimum.
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If that's the case, what happens to all those people with full time jobs and letters of intent that require 4 weeks resignation notice to their current employer?
That is probably what they are working on virgindriver although in all reasonableness you wouldn't get much change out of three weeks at minimum having to relocate, tell your boss to go and get stuffed and set it all up.
Somehow I think that either way its a lose lose situation, piss off current employer or miss the rat for who knows how long.
Somehow I think that either way its a lose lose situation, piss off current employer or miss the rat for who knows how long.
It's not just a matter of pissing off current employer, QF have asked most LOI holders what notice period they need to give their current employer. To me, that means THEY won't call you for a start date if they start to book courses within that 4 weeks....it also throws a spanner in the works when your current employer is already a QF group company.
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I am getting sick of this waiting game. Anyone heard anything yet?
I think i am going to start to look elsewhere! Typical qantas management. Don't tell em anything!
I think i am going to start to look elsewhere! Typical qantas management. Don't tell em anything!
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We have been advised that within 2 weeks time we should receive the re-forecast through, which will provide us with an indication of the course numbers going forward. As soon as I have this information, I will be in touch. Thanks for your time and patience.
Kind regards
So still up in the air. They may turn around and say no more hiring (hopefully not) or may start giving course dates after the end of the month. Who knows?
We have been advised that within 2 weeks time we should receive the re-forecast through, which will provide us with an indication of the course numbers going forward. As soon as I have this information, I will be in touch. Thanks for your time and patience.
Kind regards
So still up in the air. They may turn around and say no more hiring (hopefully not) or may start giving course dates after the end of the month. Who knows?
Not to hijack the thread but.....does anyone know whether it is possible for QLink pilots to keep their staff travel privileges when joining mainline? A thread a while back had posts from some people who had managed to keep theirs and others whose 6 months had been effectively reset. Given in recent months there have been quite a few QLink drivers join mainline hopefully someone can shed some light!
Thanks
Thanks