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Old 8th Nov 2008, 05:15
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Dick ... humour, my arse

P.S. If I want to know ASA's position on an issue, I'll look at their website, write to them or phone them ... If I want to see AOPA's position, I'll go to their website or read their magazine etc ... If I want to know Kevin Rudd's position, I'll ask his wife/partner ...

On PPRUNE, I want to hear what fellow aviators think and have to say.
It's all opinions ... no laws are created here ... no regulations drafted ... no budgets forecast ... just a bunch of aviators chewin' the fat .

Go elsewhere if you want to read Moses' tablets ... don't hassle us
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Old 8th Nov 2008, 05:33
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Take a copy of this thread folks
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Old 8th Nov 2008, 08:04
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K-941 Give me a phone call- I don't have the time to put all the relevant info here.
Bullcrap. Marilyn is able and versed in PPRuNe use. She has posted in her name and in your stead many times! I don’t have the time awwww sssssure!
You can phone me from a public phone and use a fake name if you are to scared to have yourself identified!!
Scared of you? Not likely tool! I have made you crystal clear on more than one occasion why I think you are a totally self focused, grandstanding boil on the arse of aviation. Here is a prediction! You, as one of cast members of ‘The Fallacious Five’ – being a cheap Aussie re-run of ‘Back To The Future’, are on the watch list!


Not in our life times, NEVER AGAIN!
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Old 8th Nov 2008, 20:17
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K941.

"fallacious five"?- When did your spin become truth?

вредоносные трус к gulags с вами
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Old 9th Nov 2008, 02:30
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peuce.
On PPRUNE, I want to hear what fellow aviators think and have to say.
- No you don't. You and some others have a preconceived idea that rejects other input. If james michael has an identity to protect that is of such concern that AOPA have to intervene, one or both should sue Mr Smith. At least his identity is known.
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Old 9th Nov 2008, 03:42
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Welcome to PPRUNe jeta108 ...

I'm amazed at how quickly you have worked me out ... or, at least, think you have. If you hang around a bit longer you might find out that I carefully consider reasoned argument and that I enjoy objective debate. You'll also find that I have agreed with Mr Smith on occassions (rarely).

I belong to no aviation body, nor do I work for any aviation based organisation.... so I have no agendas ...not many here who can say that !

What I don't tolerate are pretend debaters who, when they can't sway others with their arguments, drag out the ... "you're only a mouthpiece for so and so organisation" ... or " how can we believe you because you won't state your name" ... surely you agree that's a sure sign that they have given up on rational argument.

Unfortunately, you appear to be starting off on the wrong foot too. Your statement... " If james michael has an identity to protect that is of such concern that AOPA have to intervene, one or both should sue Mr Smith. At least his identity is known .." places you fairly and squarely in my list of those who've appeared to have "given up".

Please prove me wrong and post some objective opinions ... so I can consider them.
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Old 9th Nov 2008, 04:40
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Peuce

Well picked - but not worth the effort really.

If you use the "check all posts by this poster" you won't have any difficulty gaining the "form" of JetA with 99% certainty. He comes "russian" in whenever there is a chance to denigrate a certain aviation organisation or try and link myself to it.

As a clear note of his deliberate intent, if anyone reads the post by the AOPA VP mentioned by JET (as I just went back and did, Post 30 refers) - it is a response by the VP AOPA to Dick Smith as to why AOPA will not be posting on Pprune. Got nothing to do with me or my identity.

Readers will note that the poster in question has to adopt (another) anon identity to disrupt the thread. Pots calling kettles black come to mind.

It's a pity some loser not associated with the abovementioned organisation keeps dragging its name up on here. I felt the AOPA position stated made a lot of sense for peace and quiet on Pprune.

Today is the Avidyne demo at RVAC MB and I'm hoping for a report on what ensued, including satellite WX for Australia (well, if you have an Avidyne screen).

My own research is that few are keen to pay for WX in the cockpit. perhaps due to our AERIS / ATC / AWIS syatems and our terrain / wx mix.
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Old 9th Nov 2008, 06:01
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james michael. You have, and continue in an attempt to 'out' me. My identity is easily noted by the moderators in my email register. What's your point other than acting like some schoolboy tattletale prat. Your last post does nothing to enrich the thread topic and your hypocrisy is noted.

peuce. I have read some of your prior posts. I agree with your sentiments regarding consideration of reasoned arguement. Perhaps I was hasty.

What I don't tolerate are pretend debaters who, when they can't sway others with their arguments, drag out the ... "you're only a mouthpiece for so and so organisation"
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You could also add to that statement those that drag out the..."you're only a disruptive mouthpiece bent on capitalising
whenever there is a chance to denigrate a certain aviation organisation
Those posters I can't tolerate.

I have been around for quiet some time. Ask anyone who knows me if I ever give up.
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Old 9th Nov 2008, 06:27
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Jetski

Easily solved and brings peace to all on here - try not popping up for a month about AOPA matters, their directors, etc.

If AOPA can leave this place free of AOPA business, what's so hard for a non-member to follow suit? This thread is about the JCP but it seems certain people need to drag everything to involving an organisation to which they don't even belong and which has indicated it isn't going to debate on here. Get a life

(PS your 'email register' - aren't proxy IPs and proxy posters wonderful things).

Your last post does nothing to enrich the thread topic
It does because it suggests you proceed as above, plus the topic of WX by satellite is quite enriching to the topic.

The USA is looking to UAT to:
1. Solve 1090 congestion at several critical points,
2. Keep AOPA USA (stress "USA") happy about no subsidy therefore some carrot in return = WX and TFC via UAT.

Unsurprisingly, the WX by satellite people have decided to ramp up the competition, therefore raising questions about the value of WX by UAT.

And, the FAA since 2005 has been winding back on TIS.

So, all should be interested in the implications of the Avidyne demo. If Avidyne can provide WX by satellite for Oz ........
Here's the flyer http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q.../AVIDYNEWX.jpg
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Old 9th Nov 2008, 08:12
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....and yet, Osama can bring it all undone

One should be very, very, carefull before they become overly reliant on a GPS based airspace.

.......anyway, back to the miss-information of james michael
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Old 9th Nov 2008, 09:00
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james michael. You would like any opposition to ADSB sin binned, banned or relegated to just anti AOPA. - What does it matter to you, in the past you have been noted as not being part of AOPA. The similarity is simply that both support the introduction of a mandated ADSB without any guarantees of a subsidy and that my fickle fiend is the cause why you and they are not universally loved.

Do you have access to my personal register details james michael?

If it matter to you, I don't care who you or anybody else think I am. I am entitled to the same guarantees of anonymity as you 'pecious'.
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Old 9th Nov 2008, 09:34
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I really do not understand why anyone gives a jar of monkey toss what AOPA thinks about ADSB, can someone please explain it to me ?.
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Old 9th Nov 2008, 09:41
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I don't give a rat's about the current AOPA. They believe they are the 'peak aviation body' in Australia today. They support ADSB. However it seems important that james michael accuses anyone with a differing opinion to theirs as some sort of anti AOPA sentiment. He doth protest too much.
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Old 9th Nov 2008, 10:08
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Who care what they call themselves;

Budget, drives your dollar further, yet is not always the best value for money

My local plumber advertises the "get laid by a professional", have not seen that yet.......thank god.

AOPA / CWA / YMCA, who cares, I completely support ADSB rollout in Australia, why not stick to the topic at hand, ADSB and stop the d1ck measuring.

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Old 9th Nov 2008, 10:31
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I completely support ADSB rollout in Australia
I don't, but respect your right to your opinion. Pity others don't reciprocate without the personal innuendo.
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Old 9th Nov 2008, 10:41
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LRT

well said
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Old 9th Nov 2008, 11:18
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Jeta108,

Why don't you support ADSB, what alternate do you propose ? (that is financially viable and commercially available) or do you think the present systems is A-OK ?.

The aircraft I fly are equipped with ADSB, I think it is a great bit of kit and wish I had it ten years ago.
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Old 9th Nov 2008, 11:23
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Any more AOPA/ex AOPA member needling will result in this thread being deleted. Stick to the topic and discuss it like the alleged adults you're please.
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The aircraft I fly are equipped with ADSB, I think it is a great bit of kit and wish I had it ten years ago.
Who paid for it Lefthanded_Rock_Thrower ? .......
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Old 9th Nov 2008, 18:20
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Finally..., a question where I agree with you Mr F. Binghi !

I think that ADSB is terrific., and I'm really hoping for aural and visual ADSB-IN.,
but without a subsidy (or total reimbursement), it could be quite some time before I accumulate enough money to cover the costs of the gear and installation (I do not borrow money).
Without a subsidy, aircraft hire rates will increase. (no sane GA owner is simply going to write-off approximately $15k)

So., that is one reason why I want to know just what the bleep is happening.
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