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Nice pay rise granted to the hardworking RFDS QLD guys.
Obviously management and the Chief pilot are concerned with the pilot shortage coming to an airport near you, and have put a very good offer on the table for the pilots.
Starting wage of about $80,000 is the figure being quoted plus a further increases in the next 12 months, sounds like a proactive CP.
Obviously management and the Chief pilot are concerned with the pilot shortage coming to an airport near you, and have put a very good offer on the table for the pilots.
Starting wage of about $80,000 is the figure being quoted plus a further increases in the next 12 months, sounds like a proactive CP.
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Unfortunately 80K does not cut it for the work involved and the amount of time that is gifted to the RFDS for Standby time plus duty. However I believe that Qld Section is a better place than the west.
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RFDS QLD Pay - a very sweet deal!
I recently overnighted at a mate's place who is a RFDS QLD pilot. They had just got their EBA approved by management and it was up to the pilot body to vote on accepting the deal. From all accounts they would be mad to refuse it since it was exactly what the pilots had put to the bosses and was accepted without revision.
A pilot who is with the company for 4 years (or will by the time the incremental increases are finalised by October), will earn $95K. A massive 38% increase from current pay levels. A newbe wil be around $85K if my memory serves me correctly.
Congratulations to all the RFDS team including the managers who have enough sense to realise that the time has come for things to change.
Fact is those guys are very experienced and could easily jump into a airline position on similar or better cash so the RFDS could easily have lost their fundamental assets. Pilot wages are now closer to the medical staff (nurses had a recent jump).
How good would that be if it filtered through GA and the airlines likewise without an argument.
Its high time that we pilots stuck together and showed the bean counters what we truly believe we are worth across the board with some real conviction for the cause.
Dammit, we are talented individuals who have to make massive investments to get our careers started, accept difficult living conditions and low pay for years. Well, not any more.
Add to that the massive responsibility we uphold, the ongoing proficiency checks that need to be passed, the possibility of losing our medical at any time and therefore our income. The list just goes on and on!
The wheel has turned kiddies. Lets keep it going! Its time to bring home the bacon and really splash the cash.
Cheers,
TJ
ps. off soapbox now, rant over.
A pilot who is with the company for 4 years (or will by the time the incremental increases are finalised by October), will earn $95K. A massive 38% increase from current pay levels. A newbe wil be around $85K if my memory serves me correctly.
Congratulations to all the RFDS team including the managers who have enough sense to realise that the time has come for things to change.
Fact is those guys are very experienced and could easily jump into a airline position on similar or better cash so the RFDS could easily have lost their fundamental assets. Pilot wages are now closer to the medical staff (nurses had a recent jump).
How good would that be if it filtered through GA and the airlines likewise without an argument.
Its high time that we pilots stuck together and showed the bean counters what we truly believe we are worth across the board with some real conviction for the cause.
Dammit, we are talented individuals who have to make massive investments to get our careers started, accept difficult living conditions and low pay for years. Well, not any more.
Add to that the massive responsibility we uphold, the ongoing proficiency checks that need to be passed, the possibility of losing our medical at any time and therefore our income. The list just goes on and on!
The wheel has turned kiddies. Lets keep it going! Its time to bring home the bacon and really splash the cash.
Cheers,
TJ
ps. off soapbox now, rant over.
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'cuberoute' I doubt that the figure of $85K is after tax, rarely does any Co. mention that. Obviously that would mean a gross of well over $100K & few (other than SAPL) offer that sought of money to fly a 'boat plane'
Also doubt that a free Ph or car is amongst that, could be wrong tho, someone will know 4 sure
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Also doubt that a free Ph or car is amongst that, could be wrong tho, someone will know 4 sure
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And if they charged for endorsements say $30,000 for a PC-12 endorsement the young blokes would be lining up at the door to get in!!!!
Good to see wages moving forward, plenty of pilots don't necessary wish to fly the big jet.
Good to see wages moving forward, plenty of pilots don't necessary wish to fly the big jet.
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I don't think the WA section is about to experience a mass exit of drivers, the SE section which are now I believe to be the lowest paid section of the whole RFDS are always seeking pilots for Syd & ML as can be seen in Friday's Australian newspaper & the AFAP website almost every week!. I bet the managment at Syd & ML are getting nervous knowing that their guys are being paid peanuts & would no doubt be very restless, I know I would be in their shoes!
I can't understand for the life of me why these obviously experienced guys are still there earning such poor wages when there is a much better paid job out there such as SAPL Etc. Am sure things will change soon for those well sought after pilots of the RFDS. Great job guys, we salute you for being hero's in more ways than one, but I would undesrstand ye exit for better T&C's like almost everyone else.
I've known a few guys over the years at the RFDS in various sections they where 'career' pilots once, not anymore I'd say, hard to maintain that idea when yr mates are being paid more even within their own Co! Go figure !
I am aware that's it's contractual at some bases but at the end of the day a contract can only be filled if there are 'supplies' for the task!
HH I think from yr posts that yr such a man, well done if so
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I can't understand for the life of me why these obviously experienced guys are still there earning such poor wages when there is a much better paid job out there such as SAPL Etc. Am sure things will change soon for those well sought after pilots of the RFDS. Great job guys, we salute you for being hero's in more ways than one, but I would undesrstand ye exit for better T&C's like almost everyone else.
I've known a few guys over the years at the RFDS in various sections they where 'career' pilots once, not anymore I'd say, hard to maintain that idea when yr mates are being paid more even within their own Co! Go figure !
I am aware that's it's contractual at some bases but at the end of the day a contract can only be filled if there are 'supplies' for the task!
HH I think from yr posts that yr such a man, well done if so
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I can't understand for the life of me why these obviously experienced guys are still there earning such poor wages when there is a much better paid job out there such as SAPL Etc.
As far as other positions go, SAPL I think is one of those niche positions a bit like the RFDS, I suspect that given the type of flying and it's location, it is not something every pilot could do, nor would they want too.
When I look around my colleagues at the RFDS, the level of knowledge and experience that is still available despite recent departures astounds me! I hope the RFDS (all sections) wake up in time before this knowledge and experience is gone!
If you were to ask most pilots at the RFDS what their ideal job would be, the answer would be something like this...
-Aeromedical flying
-Salary somewhere North of $100K
If these were the conditions most would never leave, in fact we could probably entice a number of people back from the 'Nirvana' that is the 'Airlines'!
