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cuberoute 6th Mar 2008 02:42

RFDS Queensland.
 
Can anyone here please tell me the latest pay rates and conditions for RFDS in Queensland.

Thank you.

Stationair8 6th Mar 2008 04:20

Nice pay rise granted to the hardworking RFDS QLD guys.

Obviously management and the Chief pilot are concerned with the pilot shortage coming to an airport near you, and have put a very good offer on the table for the pilots.

Starting wage of about $80,000 is the figure being quoted plus a further increases in the next 12 months, sounds like a proactive CP.

flyitboy 6th Mar 2008 05:16

'bout time they got paid well, no doubt that will open the floodgates for other operators !Would be a great job if 'bus' driving wasn't yr scene

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megle2 6th Mar 2008 07:48

The pay rise will have them below other B200 drivers in Brisbane / Brisbane Region.

So not so good!!

desert_rat 6th Mar 2008 08:04

Unfortunately 80K does not cut it for the work involved and the amount of time that is gifted to the RFDS for Standby time plus duty. However I believe that Qld Section is a better place than the west.

Trojan1981 6th Mar 2008 08:21

Even if they can't compete with market pay it would still be a very satisfying job, wouldn't it?

Stationair8 6th Mar 2008 08:27

Megle2, so what is the going rate for a B200 driver in the Brissy region?
And which operator is paying that?

desert_rat 6th Mar 2008 09:01

Troajan, unfortunately "NO"

mates rates 6th Mar 2008 10:24

arthur pays 32000k

excellr8 6th Mar 2008 11:03

Genuine 1972 prices!!!!!!

turbinejunkie 6th Mar 2008 12:31

RFDS QLD Pay - a very sweet deal!
 
I recently overnighted at a mate's place who is a RFDS QLD pilot. They had just got their EBA approved by management and it was up to the pilot body to vote on accepting the deal. From all accounts they would be mad to refuse it since it was exactly what the pilots had put to the bosses and was accepted without revision.

A pilot who is with the company for 4 years (or will by the time the incremental increases are finalised by October), will earn $95K. A massive 38% increase from current pay levels. A newbe wil be around $85K if my memory serves me correctly.

Congratulations to all the RFDS team including the managers who have enough sense to realise that the time has come for things to change. :ok: :cool:

Fact is those guys are very experienced and could easily jump into a airline position on similar or better cash so the RFDS could easily have lost their fundamental assets. Pilot wages are now closer to the medical staff (nurses had a recent jump).

How good would that be if it filtered through GA and the airlines likewise without an argument. :eek:

Its high time that we pilots stuck together and showed the bean counters what we truly believe we are worth across the board with some real conviction for the cause. :ugh:

Dammit, we are talented individuals who have to make massive investments to get our careers started, accept difficult living conditions and low pay for years. Well, not any more.

Add to that the massive responsibility we uphold, the ongoing proficiency checks that need to be passed, the possibility of losing our medical at any time and therefore our income. The list just goes on and on!

The wheel has turned kiddies. Lets keep it going! Its time to bring home the bacon and really splash the cash. :D

Cheers,

TJ :ok:

ps. off soapbox now, rant over. :E

cuberoute 6th Mar 2008 14:51

Is there more to it ? $85,000 after tax ? Do the RFDS boys get free rent phone and a company car.? Or, has that changed as well ?

flyitboy 7th Mar 2008 05:13

'cuberoute' I doubt that the figure of $85K is after tax, rarely does any Co. mention that. Obviously that would mean a gross of well over $100K & few (other than SAPL) offer that sought of money to fly a 'boat plane':E
Also doubt that a free Ph or car is amongst that, could be wrong tho, someone will know 4 sure

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Stationair8 7th Mar 2008 05:26

And if they charged for endorsements say $30,000 for a PC-12 endorsement the young blokes would be lining up at the door to get in!!!!

Good to see wages moving forward, plenty of pilots don't necessary wish to fly the big jet.

Howard Hughes 7th Mar 2008 05:31

It is generally not young blokes lining up at the door...;)

Under Dog 7th Mar 2008 06:05

Good to see their management focuses on a stable pilot body and not a
revolving door .
Experienced staff are hard to replace in these RFDS sections.


Regards The Dog

maxgrad 7th Mar 2008 08:39

As a heads up, other operators doing same tasks have realised that they need to hang on to experience, I agree the tables may very well be turning.

desert_rat 7th Mar 2008 09:35

RFDS needs to do something WA is about to experience a mass exodus of it's pilots despite a recent increase, I believe the word at the moment is "CRISIS"

flyitboy 8th Mar 2008 07:32

I don't think the WA section is about to experience a mass exit of drivers, the SE section which are now I believe to be the lowest paid section of the whole RFDS are always seeking pilots for Syd & ML as can be seen in Friday's Australian newspaper & the AFAP website almost every week!. I bet the managment at Syd & ML are getting nervous knowing that their guys are being paid peanuts & would no doubt be very restless, I know I would be in their shoes!
I can't understand for the life of me why these obviously experienced guys are still there earning such poor wages when there is a much better paid job out there such as SAPL Etc. Am sure things will change soon for those well sought after pilots of the RFDS. Great job guys, we salute you for being hero's in more ways than one, but I would undesrstand ye exit for better T&C's like almost everyone else.
I've known a few guys over the years at the RFDS in various sections they where 'career' pilots once, not anymore I'd say, hard to maintain that idea when yr mates are being paid more even within their own Co! Go figure !:bored:
I am aware that's it's contractual at some bases but at the end of the day a contract can only be filled if there are 'supplies' for the task!

HH I think from yr posts that yr such a man, well done if so


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Howard Hughes 8th Mar 2008 21:19


I can't understand for the life of me why these obviously experienced guys are still there earning such poor wages when there is a much better paid job out there such as SAPL Etc.
If you look closely at the people who have been with the RFDS a long time, they tend to be very succeful financially outside of Aviation! That eases the burden and allows you to make choices based on other criteria, I actually don't know how some of the guys can afford to support a family and live in Sydney on one income.

As far as other positions go, SAPL I think is one of those niche positions a bit like the RFDS, I suspect that given the type of flying and it's location, it is not something every pilot could do, nor would they want too.

When I look around my colleagues at the RFDS, the level of knowledge and experience that is still available despite recent departures astounds me! I hope the RFDS (all sections) wake up in time before this knowledge and experience is gone!

If you were to ask most pilots at the RFDS what their ideal job would be, the answer would be something like this...
-Aeromedical flying
-Salary somewhere North of $100K

If these were the conditions most would never leave, in fact we could probably entice a number of people back from the 'Nirvana' that is the 'Airlines'!;)


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