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QLink psych test changed?
Hey guys,
can anyone tell me whether or not this test has changed? Ive been asked to do it for DE and it says it will consist of a numerical and verbal aptitude test and also a motivational and personality questionaire. Did it ever use to include the cubes? or was that just mainline? There is no indication that there will be any type of that stuff involved but just wanted to make sure. Anyone done it lately?
Thanks in advance.
can anyone tell me whether or not this test has changed? Ive been asked to do it for DE and it says it will consist of a numerical and verbal aptitude test and also a motivational and personality questionaire. Did it ever use to include the cubes? or was that just mainline? There is no indication that there will be any type of that stuff involved but just wanted to make sure. Anyone done it lately?
Thanks in advance.
aviator777
Thanks for the reply, wont waste my time on cubes then. Just another quick Q. did you find the maths extremely hard to finish in time? Whats the normal completion rate I wonder. Cheers again.
Thanks for the reply, wont waste my time on cubes then. Just another quick Q. did you find the maths extremely hard to finish in time? Whats the normal completion rate I wonder. Cheers again.
That would be a case of how long is a piece of string. If you study like mad for a couple of weeks then you should find that you won't have a problem
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Was that when you still had to go in person to sit it? These days its just done like the traineeship from home. Well I assume it is because thats how Ive been asked to do it.
Was that when you still had to go in person to sit it? These days its just done like the traineeship from home. Well I assume it is because thats how Ive been asked to do it.
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Whats the story on paying some AUD$400 for the interview tests for Qantaslink?!!! $100 for another medical I already have, and $100 for a security check I've already done
Edit: Update.
Get this, gave SHL a call, even though WE pay for the test, we DO NOT get a copy of those results!!!!
Edit: Update.
Get this, gave SHL a call, even though WE pay for the test, we DO NOT get a copy of those results!!!!
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When you live....
Traineeship POAD letter
Just curious to see if anyone accepted into the traineeship hasn't yet recieved a piss-off-and-die letter?
As alluded to up higher, I got mine today with the same message - it's all over.
Anyone like me interested in discussing their legal options feel free to pm me - I'm certainly going to take it further....
UTR.
As alluded to up higher, I got mine today with the same message - it's all over.
Anyone like me interested in discussing their legal options feel free to pm me - I'm certainly going to take it further....
UTR.
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How long is a piece of string Jeps?
They'll do whatever they think they can get away with at the time. The shortage of experienced pilots will continue for years. QFlink, REX, et'al have ensured that by persisting with the notion that there are other ways, any way, other than what is the only way to garrentee the long term supply of suitably qualified candidates.
For those of you with the passion, the honest, if not exactly tactful words of splinter11 should be ringing loud and clear. Get out amongst it, and when the actions of these clowns that call themselves airline HR finally come back to bite em', make sure that you are in a position to reap the benefits!
If that's too hard, then you're probably better off doing something else.
They'll do whatever they think they can get away with at the time. The shortage of experienced pilots will continue for years. QFlink, REX, et'al have ensured that by persisting with the notion that there are other ways, any way, other than what is the only way to garrentee the long term supply of suitably qualified candidates.
For those of you with the passion, the honest, if not exactly tactful words of splinter11 should be ringing loud and clear. Get out amongst it, and when the actions of these clowns that call themselves airline HR finally come back to bite em', make sure that you are in a position to reap the benefits!
If that's too hard, then you're probably better off doing something else.
When you live....
I know it may not seem popular, all I'm asking for is repayment of money spent after receiving a binding offer from Q/Link which included repayment of that money.
McGrath50 - Red flag to other airlines - well, that's for each individual to decide. Too right? Well the flip side is - are you prepared to get shafted on an employers whim for the rest of your life? If nothing else, hopefully it may help pass the message to employers need to think carefully before carelessly handing out offers.
Sphincter11 - get a life - not everyone does it your way.
UTR
McGrath50 - Red flag to other airlines - well, that's for each individual to decide. Too right? Well the flip side is - are you prepared to get shafted on an employers whim for the rest of your life? If nothing else, hopefully it may help pass the message to employers need to think carefully before carelessly handing out offers.
Sphincter11 - get a life - not everyone does it your way.
UTR
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In all fairness many of the people on active hold weren't low timers (I wasn't) - many just lacked the 250 twin required for DE.
Many gave up great jobs (or have compromised their positions), many spend thoasands getting MECIR's back up to date & completing ATPL subjects in the required 3 month time frame - all while sitting on offer letters and being told that they'd be in the next course with specific dates quoted.
Then, nothing for months and just a blunt e-mail essentially saying go away - not even a phone call.
Many meet the DE requirements for QF but no offer to transfer applications across when QF recruits again.
I understand how the economy has messed up plans for QFL however I sincerely hope that their management understand the impact this has had on people who committed to them - we have families, mortgages and compromised jobs because of the time frames we were given and now no course - it's not a nice place to be.
Personally I just think some better communication and some consideration of looking at transferring applications elsewhere in the QF group is all that's needed - I don't want the world and certainly wouldn't consider legal action - I'd just like to know that they realise the impact they've had on many - I somehow however based on the e-mail we receiced doubt they care...
Many gave up great jobs (or have compromised their positions), many spend thoasands getting MECIR's back up to date & completing ATPL subjects in the required 3 month time frame - all while sitting on offer letters and being told that they'd be in the next course with specific dates quoted.
Then, nothing for months and just a blunt e-mail essentially saying go away - not even a phone call.
Many meet the DE requirements for QF but no offer to transfer applications across when QF recruits again.
I understand how the economy has messed up plans for QFL however I sincerely hope that their management understand the impact this has had on people who committed to them - we have families, mortgages and compromised jobs because of the time frames we were given and now no course - it's not a nice place to be.
Personally I just think some better communication and some consideration of looking at transferring applications elsewhere in the QF group is all that's needed - I don't want the world and certainly wouldn't consider legal action - I'd just like to know that they realise the impact they've had on many - I somehow however based on the e-mail we receiced doubt they care...
Quote:
"If you don't have at least 1,000 twin you're low time by most people's books."
True!
Quote:
" - I somehow however based on the e-mail we receiced doubt they care... "
Sad, but true!!
Guys, I bang on a lot about the ruthless nature of airline management. If it was accompanied by a measure of competance, I could almost accept it. No, they're not a charity, and they are facing challenging times. The way in which they have treated people who trusted them however is futher evidence in my book of just how removed from reality some of them have become!
Just another nail in the coffin!
"If you don't have at least 1,000 twin you're low time by most people's books."
True!
Quote:
" - I somehow however based on the e-mail we receiced doubt they care... "
Sad, but true!!
Guys, I bang on a lot about the ruthless nature of airline management. If it was accompanied by a measure of competance, I could almost accept it. No, they're not a charity, and they are facing challenging times. The way in which they have treated people who trusted them however is futher evidence in my book of just how removed from reality some of them have become!
Just another nail in the coffin!
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In all fairness many of the people on active hold weren't low timers (I wasn't) - many just lacked the 250 twin required for DE.
Many gave up great jobs (or have compromised their positions), many spend thoasands getting MECIR's back up to date & completing ATPL subjects in the required 3 month time frame - all while sitting on offer letters and being told that they'd be in the next course with specific dates quoted.
Then, nothing for months and just a blunt e-mail essentially saying go away - not even a phone call.
Many meet the DE requirements for QF but no offer to transfer applications across when QF recruits again.
I understand how the economy has messed up plans for QFL however I sincerely hope that their management understand the impact this has had on people who committed to them - we have families, mortgages and compromised jobs because of the time frames we were given and now no course - it's not a nice place to be.
Personally I just think some better communication and some consideration of looking at transferring applications elsewhere in the QF group is all that's needed - I don't want the world and certainly wouldn't consider legal action - I'd just like to know that they realise the impact they've had on many - I somehow however based on the e-mail we receiced doubt they care...
Many gave up great jobs (or have compromised their positions), many spend thoasands getting MECIR's back up to date & completing ATPL subjects in the required 3 month time frame - all while sitting on offer letters and being told that they'd be in the next course with specific dates quoted.
Then, nothing for months and just a blunt e-mail essentially saying go away - not even a phone call.
Many meet the DE requirements for QF but no offer to transfer applications across when QF recruits again.
I understand how the economy has messed up plans for QFL however I sincerely hope that their management understand the impact this has had on people who committed to them - we have families, mortgages and compromised jobs because of the time frames we were given and now no course - it's not a nice place to be.
Personally I just think some better communication and some consideration of looking at transferring applications elsewhere in the QF group is all that's needed - I don't want the world and certainly wouldn't consider legal action - I'd just like to know that they realise the impact they've had on many - I somehow however based on the e-mail we receiced doubt they care...
Great Post OverHere, totally agree.
I was in the same position, gave up an opportunity to fly twins to wait for QLink (my choice I know) and all that was needed was better communication on their part. Now the industry has slowed im still where i was flying singles
BTW is everyone getting the POAD email as suggested above? I haven't got one yet.
What was available for pilots with the Traineeship was a one off opportunity for pilots to skip GA and jump straight to an airline. It really was a dream come true for some, some got in with 200hrs and the ink still wet on their CPLs. That particular window was only open for a very short period of time. It occurred due to the aligning of the stars (if you don't know how this all worked out then you really didn't deserve a job, as you haven't done your homework). They no longer need to offer this back door into the company and so they have closed it.
A letter of intent is just that, things changed.
a) Don't ever burn your bridges!
b) I know several people who made the effort over their GA carriers to keep their CMEIR Current rather then letting them slide whilst flying S/E.
c) Applying for an airline job without a Frozen ATPL or above is akin to applying to be a Doctor without a medical degree.
QF is not QLink, they are separate entity's. The minimums for QF is lower then that for QLink, if you want a mainline job then apply to mainline.
I don't want to be the nay sayer here and I can certainly see how the Airline has made some mistakes, but at the same time 5 years ago it was 2500+hrs even to get into QLink and 5+ years to command.
If you really want in then it shouldn't take you that long to get there.
Best of luck to all.
A letter of intent is just that, things changed.
Many gave up great jobs (or have compromised their positions), many spend thousands getting MECIR's back up to date & completing ATPL subjects in the required 3 month time frame
b) I know several people who made the effort over their GA carriers to keep their CMEIR Current rather then letting them slide whilst flying S/E.
c) Applying for an airline job without a Frozen ATPL or above is akin to applying to be a Doctor without a medical degree.
Many meet the DE requirements for QF but no offer to transfer applications across when QF recruits again.
I don't want to be the nay sayer here and I can certainly see how the Airline has made some mistakes, but at the same time 5 years ago it was 2500+hrs even to get into QLink and 5+ years to command.
If you really want in then it shouldn't take you that long to get there.
Best of luck to all.