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I got the email and I was previously scheduled for a sim/interview day which was postponed. Looking at the new IR reqs - inc. DGA and GPS endos - will mean additional training for me plus the cost for a re-issue, before I can reapply. 
At least my psych results are good for 18 months, think I'll take my time and see how things pan out. Good luck to all, esp. those with conditional offers etc.
At least my psych results are good for 18 months, think I'll take my time and see how things pan out. Good luck to all, esp. those with conditional offers etc.
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1000togo...I got that letter you're talking about as well. For me, I haven't done the interview and sim yet so according to Nathan Jaffan, have to wait another 5-6 months for those to start up again. People will be confirmed via email once a solid timeframe is given. I assume you're in the same boat?
It is very annoying all this chopping and changing of everything associated with this whole process...they're obviously doing some major back pedalling now after being way too eager to start with.
Also, has anyone who's signed in to withdraw their application and reapply had a security certificate warning come up? It warns that information you put in can be seen by another fake website or something and recommends you to not continue. I'm a bit paranoid now about entering it...
It is very annoying all this chopping and changing of everything associated with this whole process...they're obviously doing some major back pedalling now after being way too eager to start with.
Also, has anyone who's signed in to withdraw their application and reapply had a security certificate warning come up? It warns that information you put in can be seen by another fake website or something and recommends you to not continue. I'm a bit paranoid now about entering it...
When you live....
avi8r
I had heard that the 4 months was abritrary and extensions were being offered if you simply rang and asked.
However that was before the goal posts were shifted.....
However that was before the goal posts were shifted.....
Anothe change people should be aware of is the bond. At the roadshow we were told it was 2 years reducing pro rata. Website now says 3 years full cost not reducing pro rata. 
Big difference IMHO.
Big difference IMHO.
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Yeah I noticed that it expired on 3 aug. Tried installing new certificate but made no difference. I just entered the site anyway and resubmitted my application.
HAHA preoccupied with what BoundaryLayer?
They should have all the time in the world now seeing they've put everything on hold till start of 09. Good luck with your app!
HAHA preoccupied with what BoundaryLayer?
They should have all the time in the world now seeing they've put everything on hold till start of 09. Good luck with your app!
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Bond
I went to the Sydney roadshow and the information on the site has always indicated that the bond for the Trainee Program is 4 years, and 3 years for the Dash 8 Endorsement. This has not changed.
Mo
In summary this Deed of Agreement states that if a Pilot is employed by QantasLink at the end of the Trainee Program and remains employed for a 4 year period that none of the training costs need to be repaid. If the Pilot remains employed for less than the 4 year period, then the Pilot will be required to repay a pro-rata amount of the total training costs.
QantasLink pays for the cost of the Dash 8 Type Rating. First Officers are required to sign a Training Bond which essentially says that if the Pilot remains employed for a period of 3 years, then the Pilot will not be required to repay the cost of the training for the Dash 8 Type Rating.
If the Pilot was to leave within the 3 year period then the Pilot would be required to repay a portion of the Dash 8 Type Rating training costs which would be determined by their length of service with QantasLink.
Note: Pilots who are employed by QantasLink and who have signed a Deed of Agreement (4 years) and a Training Bond (3 years) this does not result in a total of 7 years in which the Pilot is required to remain employed with QantasLink. Each Agreement is a stand alone agreement which means that the time periods are separate in each Agreement. The Deed of Agreement is signed at the commencement of the Trainee Program and the Dash 8 Type Rating Training Bond is signed upon commencement of employment with QantasLink.
If the Pilot was to leave within the 3 year period then the Pilot would be required to repay a portion of the Dash 8 Type Rating training costs which would be determined by their length of service with QantasLink.
Note: Pilots who are employed by QantasLink and who have signed a Deed of Agreement (4 years) and a Training Bond (3 years) this does not result in a total of 7 years in which the Pilot is required to remain employed with QantasLink. Each Agreement is a stand alone agreement which means that the time periods are separate in each Agreement. The Deed of Agreement is signed at the commencement of the Trainee Program and the Dash 8 Type Rating Training Bond is signed upon commencement of employment with QantasLink.
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One thing about aviation, never give up and you will get there. Well that has been my experience. The tide changes quickly and remember about 3-4 months ago Airlines were stressed about not having a pipeline of pilots.
Keep positive and don't listen to negative people.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/d-g-gen...slink-yes.html
Keep positive and don't listen to negative people.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/d-g-gen...slink-yes.html
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anyone been given the nod?
just wondering if any direct entry boys have been given the nod for a start date recently? i have only heard of people getting the no letter....have they completely ground to a halt?cheers
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Are there any applicants out there that applied when the traineeship was first offered and still hav'nt heard anything. Except perhaps, the update deadline email.
Keep hearing about the "knock backs", and the "re-apply with more experience", and also the, "course on hold til next year", what about the rest of us?
Keep hearing about the "knock backs", and the "re-apply with more experience", and also the, "course on hold til next year", what about the rest of us?
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Ditch QantasLink...Aim High Now!
"Ditch QantasLink...Aim High Now!" The best career advice from a real friend (ex QantasLink). Now proudly sitting in the left hand seat of a B737 with VB.
I applied for Direct Entry and got stuffed around for months on end and decided to do something about it. Withdrew my application and took my services elsewhere. If you want to fly for a flock of Pelicans, you will feel right at home with this organisation. How good was the roadshow? What a waste of my Friday night. Talk about a badly planned pre-mature useless activity. Recruiting should stop bull****ting people. If you don't know your head from your arse...you don't know. Just say so!
Your choice, your career, your life, your regrets...
Received the call last week from VB...start Nov/Dec!
LB
I applied for Direct Entry and got stuffed around for months on end and decided to do something about it. Withdrew my application and took my services elsewhere. If you want to fly for a flock of Pelicans, you will feel right at home with this organisation. How good was the roadshow? What a waste of my Friday night. Talk about a badly planned pre-mature useless activity. Recruiting should stop bull****ting people. If you don't know your head from your arse...you don't know. Just say so!
Your choice, your career, your life, your regrets...
Received the call last week from VB...start Nov/Dec!
LB
Are there any applicants out there that applied when the traineeship was first offered and still hav'nt heard anything. Except perhaps, the update deadline email
Not a peep... Oh well, I guess they're just not interested.
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I think some of you guys need to chill out a bit.
There's a lot of angst in this thread, and some of you appear to think that you deserve to get in just by applying for the traineeship. Others of you appear to be acting like if you dont get into QL, then it's "game over" for your career!
The traineeship is still going on, but at a much reduced pace. Of course, when the courses are cut from 20 per month down to 8 (or less), people are going to be pushed back onto later courses, or be told "next year", etc.
The main reason (AFAIK) for the slow down is that QL can't train 20 people per month! QL simply does not have the training capability! Fuel prices may have had some effect, but is minor compared to the lack of available training capability.
At Eastern, it's only been within the last week or so that the first of the trainees have been checked to line. These were the trainees that started at GFS in March, and many of them are still doing their line training. The second course of GFS Trainees are only just starting their line training.
I'm not defending the way that QL recruiting/management have handled any of this. It's not been done well by any measurement, and I really feel for those of you who received conditional offers, only to have had the goal posts shifted.
But life does have it's disappointments! It's how you deal with the obstacles and losses in your life that matters.
So you didn't get in, or haven't heard, or got told "reapply", or whatever.
Okay, well, life hasn't stopped just yet! Stay positive!
There's plenty of aviation work out there. Build your hours up, re-apply, or apply elsewhere (Like LB did). It's not the end of the world if you have to wait another year or two to get into an airline.
If the worst thing that ever happens to you in your life is that you didn't get into QLink, then you should still die happy, IMHO!
DIVOSH!
The traineeship is still going on, but at a much reduced pace. Of course, when the courses are cut from 20 per month down to 8 (or less), people are going to be pushed back onto later courses, or be told "next year", etc.
The main reason (AFAIK) for the slow down is that QL can't train 20 people per month! QL simply does not have the training capability! Fuel prices may have had some effect, but is minor compared to the lack of available training capability.
At Eastern, it's only been within the last week or so that the first of the trainees have been checked to line. These were the trainees that started at GFS in March, and many of them are still doing their line training. The second course of GFS Trainees are only just starting their line training.
I'm not defending the way that QL recruiting/management have handled any of this. It's not been done well by any measurement, and I really feel for those of you who received conditional offers, only to have had the goal posts shifted.
But life does have it's disappointments! It's how you deal with the obstacles and losses in your life that matters.
So you didn't get in, or haven't heard, or got told "reapply", or whatever.
Okay, well, life hasn't stopped just yet! Stay positive!
There's plenty of aviation work out there. Build your hours up, re-apply, or apply elsewhere (Like LB did). It's not the end of the world if you have to wait another year or two to get into an airline.
If the worst thing that ever happens to you in your life is that you didn't get into QLink, then you should still die happy, IMHO!
DIVOSH!
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Empacher48!!
If QLink are all quiet-
With those hours i'd be getting in touch with all 3 NZ Link airlines bro! And all the rest (vincent/AirWork/Air nat).
If QLink are all quiet-
With those hours i'd be getting in touch with all 3 NZ Link airlines bro! And all the rest (vincent/AirWork/Air nat).
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Di Vosh,
We are all well aware of all the other great opportunities out there. Loads of great GA jobs and Airline. We do understand, and most of us have continued building hours and will more than likely take on bigger and better opportunities in the near future. That is not the complaint here.
We are disappointed with the lack of professionalism. How difficult is it to fire of a blanket email, keeping everyone informed on the current situation, good or bad. I'm sure most of us would just appreciate being kept in the loop.
Instead, we are forced to get our feedback from this forum, with some often "sketchy" information and some biased opinions.
We are all well aware of all the other great opportunities out there. Loads of great GA jobs and Airline. We do understand, and most of us have continued building hours and will more than likely take on bigger and better opportunities in the near future. That is not the complaint here.
We are disappointed with the lack of professionalism. How difficult is it to fire of a blanket email, keeping everyone informed on the current situation, good or bad. I'm sure most of us would just appreciate being kept in the loop.
Instead, we are forced to get our feedback from this forum, with some often "sketchy" information and some biased opinions.
Pablo E
Pablo,
Well you get the same experience from the other airlines around Australia, frustrating, but what do you do? Maybe the company isn't the place for you? I worked there and loved it, miss it quite a bit actually!
Di_Vosh, totally agree with what you posted....
Well you get the same experience from the other airlines around Australia, frustrating, but what do you do? Maybe the company isn't the place for you? I worked there and loved it, miss it quite a bit actually!
Di_Vosh, totally agree with what you posted....
